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General Sherlock Discussion » You know you're obsessed with Sherlock when... » March 9, 2014 9:34 pm

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When your kids name new stuffed animals sherlock and John "wasson"

General Sherlock Discussion » You know you're obsessed with Sherlock when... » March 7, 2014 9:10 pm

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When you have a stressful day and come home Bearing  pizza because you don't feel like cooking and proclaim "it's a three pizza problem"

General Sherlock Discussion » You know you're obsessed with Sherlock when... » March 4, 2014 3:59 am

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Clara's sister wrote:

This Is The Phantom Lady wrote:

I hope they make the app for Android too... I need it in my life!

Me too. I NEED to have it. I hope it'll be released in the near future.
 

Excuse me, but that ^^ is the best gif ever. Whoo girl.

Idk but that is the best kiss I ever seen the hair rustle the collar flip the face grab. OMG.

I am pretty sure that's when I fell lol.

Sherlock is my first big girl crush since I've been married ha

A Scandal In Belgravia » Before she was "Sherlocked" » March 3, 2014 5:03 am

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Well he is on his last guess when he gets it. It's pretty clear she's into him in the fireplace scene when he takes her pulse. She sat and stated at him for two hours while he played violin and talks to an absent John. Then she did all. Coming onto him about "dinner" . It was pretty clear at that point.

A Scandal In Belgravia » "Till you beg for mercy, twice..." » March 3, 2014 5:00 am

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SherlocklivesinOH wrote:

Someone questioned on another thread whether Irene's "recreational scolding" involved sex. I thought this line to Sherlock was referring to sex, the idea was that he would beg for mercy because it would be so pleasurable it wouldl be painful (or exhausting). 

Because she was impressed with him at that moment, (or wanted him to think she was.) I didn't think she was literally threatening to hurt him.

And I thought the point of her blackmail was that she had compromising pictures of sexual situations?

I felt that one reason they had Irene say this to Sherlock is that female fans seem to have that reaction, either to Sherlock, or to Benedict.

Someone who posted the scene on Youtube commented that if John hadn't been in the room, Sherlock and Irene would have...that's why this episode is problematic for us Johnlockers.

Sherlock said, "I've never begged for mercy in my life." And not very long afterwards, begged John for cigarettes (twice.)

If Sherlock is attracted to Irene, even after she drugged and beat him (shouldn't that make him see her as an enemy?) than his own...tastes...must be pretty....out there?

 

Of course it's about sex. I think only johnlockers who refuse to see any scene except through the lens of a sherlock Watson love fest could see that.

Maybe people who have never flirted or been flirted with perhaps? High school kids? Sexually uninitiated?

But it's a sexually charged scene-just watch John in it lol.

Idk that the never beg thing really shows anything other than a man refusing to be domineered by a woman. He's standing up t her advances. Whether he wants to give in or not he's not going to let her just say she'll make him beg for mercy. He's Sherlock, he's not going to let anyone get the better of him - especially verbally!

His Last Vow » John? Out of character? » March 2, 2014 9:41 pm

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This might  just be the desnsitized to violence american in me but the whole "I always hear punch me in the face' when you speak- its just usually subtext" line as witty sarcasm on johns part.

Are people much kinder in England than here? Lol.

I thought it was a great line and granted Idk if I'd deliver it as dryly as John but I could see my friends saying it sarcastically with a smirk.

Though I will admit John sounds quite peevish in his delivery

To his credit, Sherlock has to punch John before John will strike him- but then he just goes bananas.

Sherlock wasn't looking for a fight just a convincing blow to the face for the ruse.

Of course sherlock doesn't explain the plan so John doesn't know why be wants punched nor why Sherlock punched him but I assume Sherlock deduced it would be faster to get the results he desired by punching John instead of explaining the plan.

His Last Vow » John? Out of character? » March 2, 2014 8:17 pm

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We're snowed in. AGAIN.

So we are doing a sherlock marathon.

Watching sib right now and John beats sherlock on that one too. He wants one punch but John keeps going for more even jumping on his back strangling him talking about how he killed people for a living. (Army)

So... How is he so different in season 3?

General Sherlock Discussion » You know you're obsessed with Sherlock when... » March 2, 2014 6:26 am

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Russell wrote:

That's adorable, Wiggins.   

Ha, adorable. I don't think I've seen that word on these boards except to describe Martin Freeman. And not even that since everyone turned on John in January lol.

General Sherlock Discussion » You know you're obsessed with Sherlock when... » March 1, 2014 8:03 pm

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Zatoichi wrote:

Heehee, that´s impressive, Wiggins! ^^ Hmm, girl Sherlock outfits, you give me ideas..

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When you finish the homeless network app in less than 24 hours. Sigh.

I better don´t say anything about the App - I nearly played two nights when I got it, being already short on sleep. And when I was completely sleep deprived and had difficulties with the last 5-digit-passcode, my husband said "Come on, do it for Sherlock!" - and next move I solved it. Sigh. I am a very sad and hopeless case.. 

Mentioning three year olds: Mine sang the 'Bob the Builder' theme song today and replaced all names with 'Herlock'.. lol

Herlock the builder is cute hey we could be giving them worse role models than a brilliant consulting detective . Yes a sociopath but a high functioning one who is on the side of angels. Yeah?

I also do the Sherlock "nope" lol. It's delightful.

And as an American, I've noticed decidedly British sayings or syntax have entered my speech.

General Sherlock Discussion » You know you're obsessed with Sherlock when... » March 1, 2014 11:39 am

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When your husband asks to help dress him in business casual for a promotion interview and you unconsciously dress him just like Watson.

And start calling him Watson bc he does resemble Martin Freeman
(He resented that I would presume to be sherlock without discussion)

When your three year old tells you she's telling daddy that Sherlock is your boyfriend bc the Main theme is your ring tone and Sherlocks little theme they play when he's being all sherlockian is  your text tone and it rings all evening while husband is at work bc he's texting you.

Overhear Same daughter tell her older sister she has an imaginary friend - named John Watson

When your circle of friends all start watching Sherlock bc you don't shut up about it and they now you are rarely excited about things so it must be good- we just started watching after Christmas and I'm obsessed

When you and your spouse get on each others nerves you quote moriarty lines- probably not advisable for those married to non fans as they are quite disturbing quotes lol

When you finish the homeless network app In less than 24 hours. Sigh.

When your friends call and as soon as say hello you hear "so on that episode of sherlock" apparently I'm the sherlock of sherlock- having to explain the details.

When you change your contact pic In your husbands phone to moriarty and your contact tone to staying alive and text 'miss me?

When you insult people by saying "aren't ordinary people adorable" not to their faces but usually to my husband

Did the contact change again but made myself Sherlock with his theme  as the tone and did the whole "if convenient" bit.

Make little mysteries up for the kids and see what they can deduce.


Make up word to the theme song bc sometimes humming just isn't enough.

Your lock screen is Irenes sherlocked lock screen

Your husband actually gets you to watch movies you've refused to before bc Martin andBen are in them. Hello khan!

You can't watch elementary anymore without shouting "he's no

The Empty Hearse » Flaws In Theory #3 » February 28, 2014 12:12 am

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Bruce Cook wrote:

haseoke39 wrote:

The corpse wasn't just to fool John for half a second. It was to be used in all future deceptions (death records, etc.) Molly had to manipulate some records to get the dead guy out of the way, but surely she couldn't have faked records enough to convince the nation that Sherlock was dead without a body that looked like his.

Hmmm.  That's a puzzling assertion. I'm pretty sure John F. Kennedy is dead, but Wikipedia states that "Jacqueline Kennedy declared that the casket would be kept closed for the duration of the viewing and funeral."

Therefore, I contend that the next-of-kin (Mycroft and his parents) could simply order the coffin which supposedly contained Sherlock's body be kept closed.  I'm sure none of us thinks the funeral was held with an open casket which displayed a dead look-alike, right?  Of course not. So, a few hundred pounds of rocks would give the coffin the right weight.  It's as simple as that.
 
Remember, Mycroft arranged for a 747 to be filled with dead bodies to thwart a terrorist plan to blow up the aircraft in flight.  If Mycroft can have a plane filled with dead bodies, he wouldn't break a sweat arranging to have a rock-filled coffin buried in his brother's grave.

As for the alleged Sherlock look-alike -- he never existed.  That was just part of the BS which Sherlock told Anderson -- along with a big blue airbag, a good sniper to shoot the bad sniper (in a stairwell, with a scope), a make-up artist to create a fake facial wound (on a face smeared with blood), and a reclusive brother who managed to put together a skilled team of expert homeless people who could keep a secret for two years.
 
Sherlock practically told us he was making up the fake-twin body when he casually described him as " . . . that man, whoever he was . . . " when he told Anderson that whopper he passed off as an explanation.

Be realistic, folks.  Would Sherlock actually NOT know the identity of this convenient twin-broth

The Empty Hearse » Flaws In Theory #3 » February 27, 2014 8:28 pm

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miriel68 wrote:

I think it is better not to nickpick, because there is no satisfying explanation. I am glad they muddied the waters rather than offer a clear (and hole-ridded) explanation: this way I can just accept "the magic trick" and it doesn't ruin TRF for me (although now is the menace of Moriarty resurrection, sigh). IF the things went in the way S. described them to Anderson the whole thing wouldn't have sense, anyway, for a simple reason:- the street was closed like a stage, only S. people were there.- Mycroft took care of Moriarty's sniperstherefore:WHY to jump from the roof at all? Only to fool Watson? Between pulling such a dangerous stunt (don't try to convince me it is NOT dangerous to jump from the roof of 5 stories building) and convincing Watson that he must not say a word about S. faking his death, what was a better option?  So I am going for the mystical "I am indestructible" at the end of the episode.

 
What do you mean Mycrofts people took care of the snipers before? We see the mrs Hudsonnone pack up and johns we follow through the gun scope and down as he stops following him and I assume packs up and leaves. The gun sight doesn't wobble and fall as if the sniper has been killed from behind as he watches John.

Thank you Bruce Cook for unmuddying things. I think a lot of people's head canon gets mixed up as faxt and passed around .

The Empty Hearse » I know we haven't known each other for a long time... » February 27, 2014 8:13 pm

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SusiGo wrote:

I am just thinking of the mini episode. The flat where John watches the birthday video seems to be the same they are living in now, the living-room we see at the beginning of HLV. If I remember correctly the door bell is ringing while John is watching the video and he gets up to open the door. It might be Mary. Why would she ring the bell when they are living together? Of course there might be other reasons for this - forgotten key, carrying heavy bags, etc. 
And how much time passes between the mini episode and TEH? Six months? 

 
Well john could have lived in that flat without Mary. He does say to mrs Hudson about not being able to come back and visit baker st bc it's too hard so he moved out quickly I'd say.

He could've moved right into that flat and then whenever Mary and he got together she moved in. They don't has to have picked out a place together. Makes just as much sense for one to move into the other place instead of both leaving their places and getting a new one together.

We also don't know when they started co habitating- yeah? Or did I miss that. I think the only timeline given was Mary saying about kissing the mustache for 6 months, as others stated.

And speaking of the Stache. It needs its own mini episode- the backstory.

The Empty Hearse » The Homeless Network » February 27, 2014 8:04 pm

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I agree with the above. He "saw" the jump with his own eyes, checked the pulse. He had no reason to believe he wasnt dead and I'm sure John even if he did suspect it was a Ruse would even entertain the notion
That some rag tag bunch of homeless people that sherlock utilizes would know something that he did not.

I don't think his pride would let him think they'd know and he wouldn't so the thought wouldn't occur- even if he entertained the idea that sherlock miraculously lived. (Not sayinf his pride in a negative manner. He's the. Best friend and right hand man it's only logical to see him of more import than the network
Also he has no reason to think that if sherlock lived that Sherlock would  keep it from him.

Even after he finds out in TEH, he still can't believe he was kept in the dark.

The Empty Hearse » Moriarty theories - The Empty Hearse » February 27, 2014 7:59 pm

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DavidM1337 wrote:

As far as I understand it, the two made up theories (Anderson and the girl) are based upon the public knowing, that Moriarty was involved in Sherlocks death, but Moriarty hasn't been found.
(- Andersons story: Moriarty is dead but the hearse is empty;
- Fanclub Girl story: Moriarty and Sherlock teamed up and are both alive; no dead bodies.)


Sherlocks own explanation of the jump didn't mention what happened to Moriarty at all. But he says, that Moriarty killed himself. He obviously fell for Moriartys fake death.
But then explain this: Sherlock saw Moriarty die, but the public kinda knows, that Moriarty's body wasn't found. Sherlock should be able to add 1+1 here and see that something doesn't add up.
Maybe he does, and maybe he isn't even surprised, at least season 3 didn't mention anything about it!
If I'm right, in S04E01 Sherlock should not be surprised that Moriarty is back.

So I guess Moriarty got up and ran away, when Sherlock jumped.
Notice, nobody but Sherlock (and probably Mycroft) knew that Moriarty was up there.
So then how did it become public knowledge that Moriarty was involved in this? His body wasn't found obviously. But Anderson's and the fangirl's storys both involve Moriarty being on the roof.

I like that he faked his death too and comes back, but it's strange that the whole season 3 didn't touch that subject.
Obviously they did that purposely, because they knew years ago, that he would come back.

But for me there is still a gaping hole in the story:
- All being shocked by "did you miss me?" means, that all thought Moriarty was dead.
- But how did they even know, that he died?
- Mycroft going "this can't be possible, this simply can't be possible" at the end of "His last vow" doesn't make sense at all.
If there was no Moriarty body on the roof, Mycroft would know!

[size=125][b]So my only explanation is, that Mycroft is acting this "can't be possible" line and that he spread the "Moriarty is dead" news after "The Reiche

The Empty Hearse » Sherlock's Name is Cleared... » February 27, 2014 7:44 pm

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I just read something somewhere- perhaps the how  he did it theory thread- had sherlock recorded what a moriarty said on the rooftop on his phone and that's why he leaves it behind- to be found and clear his name.

Is this just head canon or has it been confirmed?

Would make some sense for that to happen, but not sure if it did. I wondered myself the fourth or so time watching just how his name was cleared. It would be nice to know what brought Anderson round to realizing he was wrong. It clearly shook him to the core.

The Empty Hearse » Blood???? Sherlock gets his coat back, and turns and says to Mycroft.. » February 27, 2014 7:40 pm

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Chalotte wrote:

Is it actually possible that Gatiss put in the "blud" remark without being aware of the secondary meaning, that of an evil fairy in slavic mythology? The fairy, "blud," means "wanderer" - "an injurious fairy causing disorientation" - and leads people aimlessly round and round.

There is so much attention to detail and so many subtle references/double entendres in the Sherlock series, that I can't imagine Gatiss wasn't aware of the double meaning (or Sherlock, for that matter). In my opinion, it was a portmanteau-sort-of compliment-insult by Sherlock, meaning: 

a) English slang "blud" - meaning "bro," or "mate" - which, as someone pointed out, is in keeping with Sherlock's former use of street slang, "laters," which sounds so tongue-in-cheek coming from him.

b) The alternate sense of the slang word, "blood" - like, blood brother. Sherlock and Mycroft are blood. 

c) The evil slavic fairy causing disorientation and leading a person round and round aimlessly. Mycroft had said shortly before the "blud" comment that he had learnt Serbian, and that it has a Slavic root. Can the fact that there is a slavic fairy of the same name (and spelling) be coincidence? If so, it's a very lucky one. Mycroft is the master puppeteer and has a hand in everything. At the end of "A Study in Pink," Sherlock agrees with Watson's idea that Mycroft was a "criminal mastermind." And Sherlock hates being controlled by his brother (in previous episodes, he stubbornly refuses to help Mycroft). Mycroft hates "leg work," so he demands that Sherlock follow up on cases for him. As soon as he gets him shaved and cleaned up, he sends him off to uncover a terrorist network. Like an evil slavic fairy directing the actions of people around him.

In addition, I think it notable that Mycroft referred to Sherlock twice before as "brother" in the scenes leading up to the "blud." Mycroft had also told Sherlock that a "small thank you wouldn't go amiss." Sherlock refused to thank him. But rig

The Empty Hearse » "I prefer my doctors to be clean shaven." » February 27, 2014 6:48 pm

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This Is The Phantom Lady wrote:

I do see that qoute as two things; firstly I do think Motiss loves to tease the Johnlockers; I bet they laughed their pants off when they wrote that!

Secondly I think it also shows Sherlock's manipulative side. He needs to control the people he is around in order to feel right.

I also think about what John told Lestrade in THoB, that his Asperbergers makes him like to have the 'usual' faces around. the mustache isn't Watson's 'usual' look and what Sherlock is used to... 

I have a friend who is mentally ill. Granted she does not have Aspberger's but if I wear bright colours or white around her instead of black like she knows me she can barely look at me... 

I think you're spot on with all of the above and also lets not forget Mary admitted she didn't like it either.

Not to mention everyone else he's heard it from- so with those two ganging up the Stache I think he waved the white flag of shaving cream and said to hell with it.

But OF COURSE they're going to tease the John lockers or even if its not that they've had the long running not gay joke the whole entire life of the show. Even before johnlockers came about the writers joked about it. Perfectly natural to continue it since they stated it in the first place.

The Empty Hearse » There's something about Mary » February 27, 2014 4:56 pm

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So on idk the tenth watching we've slow motion watched the scene where sherlock is analyzing Mary for the first time.

Can anyone explain when he saw her appendix scar? Lol. I don't recall her flashing him but maybe during one  of the rows with John, does she maybe jump in and her shirt flaps up a bit?

I assume baking her own bread perhaps some flour left around her cuticles?

I think there was one other one that I can't possibly see how that could have been deduced at least by what we've seen but darn it I can't remember.

It's interesting bc you can see he did pick up spy notions on her : linguist, liar, secret.

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