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Character Analysis » Why I'm now convinced Sherlock didn't fall for Irene » May 17, 2015 11:57 am

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The following two posts raise some very interesting points. I'm spoiler tagging them since they're rather long.

Often, when writers set out to create another Sherlock Holmes adaptation, they decide to use Irene Adler as his love interest, despite the fact that she only actually appears in one canonical story. Why? Because she’s beautiful and clever. So naturally canon-Sherlock was in love with her. Of course, anyone who actually bothered reading the story knows that isn’t the case at all. Canon Sherlock Holmes is intrigued by Irene. She’s highly intelligent and she outsmarts him. He keeps a photograph of her as a souvenir once they part ways as a reminder of the woman who beat him. If I had to make a list of guesses to Canon Sherlock Holmes’s sexual orientation, “straight” wouldn’t even crack the top five. So it irks me to no end that people assume his interest in Irene must be sexual. God forbid he really is just impressed with her mind. Who cares how powerful her brains are?? Look at her boobs, for chrissake!

There was no romance between them in the canon story. Period. 

I imagine Moffat and Gatiss were beside themselves with glee when they wrote this episode. They made it through the first season loading all three shows with crazy homoerotic subtext, setting up the beginning of their slow build to Johnlock, reading reviews and criticism that pointed out All The Gay while at the same time heralding it a fine bromance, with a minority of fans crying “queerbait.” Queerbaiting? the writers thought. No no no. Quite the opposite, dears. Just you wait.

Enter: The Woman.

She’s sexy and she’s smart, which means 99% of people will misread her right off the bat (this holds true in real life, too!). It’s too confusing when women are intelligent and beautiful. We’re supposed to believe these two things are mutually exclusive when it comes to the fair sex. (Throw a little confid

Series Four News » sherlock series 4 (spoilers inside) » May 11, 2015 3:53 pm

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tonnaree wrote:

SusiGo wrote:

A special with hopefully lots of interesting things to discuss. 

 
I think we will have plenty to keep us occupied. 

Hell, we might even crash tumblr again. 

Yessssssss!! 
 

Series Four News » sherlock series 4 (spoilers inside) » May 11, 2015 1:28 pm

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Does anyone know how long it generally takes them to start filming and release a new season? I mean if they start filming in spring could it be possible that we get them withinn 2016?

The Empty Hearse » Sherlock and Molly in The Empty Hearse » May 10, 2015 9:32 am

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Sherlock and Molly’s relationship is one of the more fascinating to me. Personally I also don’t see Molly and Sherlock as a potential couple or even close friends actually. They don’t quite know how to talk to each other. There’s always this undercurrent of discomfort between them. Molly is hopelessly and pointlessly in love with Sherlock, and he doesn’t return the feeling. On top of that Sherlock even deduced how she feels about him. She is the opposite of him in pretty much every way. He doesn’t know how to relate to any element of her. Until suddenly he does. He constantly rejects her, and becomes awkwardly aware that he’s causing her so much pain and how inexcusable that is (ASiB). When John Marries Mary and thus rejects him as a romantic partner, Sherlock finally knows what it feels like to be rejected by someone you love completely and hopelessly. 

The way I see it Sherlock calling Molly to help him (TEH) with his cases was more about himself. John has told him to f*** off. He’s ravaged by that rejection, just like Molly’s always is. So it’s interesting that he chooses to include Molly in his life in a new way just then. He suddenly understands what it would mean to get the attention of someone he loves, and he’s finally behaving with some level of empathy towards Molly. For once, they’re in the same boat.

Although I think this doesn’t improve the possibility of a romance or even a cherished friendship between them. And it’s mainly because of Sherlock’s nature. The problem is that Molly and Sherlock do have potential (as friends), because she has the temperament to tolerate him and the job description to potentially interest him (plus at least some intelligence), but. It’s always been too much about feelings. Ironically, in some ways that’s even the issue with Irene: even Irene attacked Sherlock with feelings, head-on. Not that Molly meant to 'attack’, but she couldn’t exactly hide them, which meant that Sherlock was ne

His Last Vow » "moving back in" » March 28, 2015 1:17 pm

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Thought this was relevant. The game Sherlock the network most probably takes place during this time betwen the Watson separation. John is wearing his wedding ring but no mention of Mary.

Fan Fic » post-HLV » March 25, 2015 8:07 am

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I have some meta recommendations that you might wanna check out:

The four arcs of Sherlock by [/url][url=http://archipelagoarchaea.tumblr.com/post/109465976878/the-four-arcs-of-sherlock]archipelagoarchaea, This deals with predicting the future of the show by analyzing the plot structure and character arcs of the show. Sounds a bit dry I know but once you figure them out you can get a better understanding of what’s going on. Really entertaining read.
 
Also meta on:
What is up with the Moriarty storyline?
How might Sherlock and John’s relationship progress throughout the show?
How will Mofitsson incorporate Mary and John’s baby into the story?
What is in store for Mary?
What is in store for Mycroft?

Happy reading! 

Other Cast & Production Team » Lars Mikkelsen Appreciation Thread » March 25, 2015 7:40 am

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He was superb in His Last Vow. Really enjoyed his performance. 

The Sign of Three » Sherlock and Sholto » March 23, 2015 11:06 am

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nakahara wrote:

Jealous lover checking on the ex-boyfriend?






 

This is somewhat off topic so I won't paste the post here but there is an interesting insinuation in the way the Sholto web page is designed. I have to say this is the most carefully crafted show I've ever watched. The little things they put in there for the audience to find out. What amazes me the most is that they are not afraid to keep the clues hidden/ subtle enough for it to be difficult to notice.

Series Four Suggestions & Ideas » could Sherlock have fallen for Mary » March 23, 2015 10:26 am

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Unfortunately John thinks Sherlock fell for Mary.

Also an excerpt from another writing of the same person:

(from the Watsons domestic scene)





It’s important to note that this is the second time John has mentioned the idea of romance between Sherlock and Mary, the first time being when he assumed Sherlock had a crush on Mary because he said her name upon awakening. This situation must feel surreal to John: Mary shot Sherlock in the heart, and Sherlock is defending her and is about to go on to say that Mary actually saved his life. When John was jealous of Irene in A Scandal in Belgravia, remember that Irene had beat Sherlock and drugged him. The moment John gets really irritated is after the Bond Air deduction and Irene threatens to make Sherlock beg for mercy twice: John exits the flat and just leaves Sherlock alone to do whatever he wants with Irene. John seriously thought Sherlock has a thing for women who beat the shit out of him, so it’s actually not at all surprising that John thinks Sherlock has a thing for Mary now. Janine said in the papers that Sherlock was basically a sex maniac but John never saw him with anyone other than Irene, and John knows that Sherlock thinks love is a “human error,” so who the feck knows what kind of shit Sherlock needs to get his motor running. Mary may be one of the few people in the world that presses the right buttons for Sherlock, all because she shot him. Sherlock’s probably never had anyone go quite that far — she actually flatlined him — and apparently he can’t say a bad thing about the experience. He couldn’t get Irene Adler off his mind months after she fucked him over, either: one of the few displays of unque

General Sherlock Discussion » The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only) » March 23, 2015 8:44 am

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SusiGo wrote:

As interesting as it is depressing, tykobrian. 
I fear that a lot of fans will leave if they keep Sherlock and John apart for at least another three episodes. I would not since I think that the meta is quite persuasive but others might think differently. 

Just a request - since this is not strictly Johnlock but worth discussing could you post it somewhere else as well: in the Mary thread for example or the one about series 4 in general? 

Haha fans won't leave because they won't ever imagine that Mofitson would do such a thing.  They'd already separated those two for one entire series. People'll think SURELY they won't do that again!! But to be honest it's obvious that they won't be together in Baker St. until Mary's in the picture and she sure won't disappear at the start of S4. For s4 all I can come up with is John occasionally joining Sherlock on his cases (like s3); Mary and John coming over to Baker St. (like s3); Sherlock going over to the Warstan residence; John staying in Baker St. while Mary visits her friends or something (sort of like canon) since she doesn’t have relatives to visit. Ha ha those two are going to be painfully separate again in s4 especially now that John and Mary has a baby coming. How Moffitson is going to play with this situation is one of the most anticipated things of Series 4 for me.

General Sherlock Discussion » The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only) » March 23, 2015 8:07 am

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mrshouse wrote:

 
I.MISS.THIS!
Did you hear that, Mofftiss? *shaking fist towards heaven*

John isn't returning to Baker street as Sherlock's flatmate since he's with Mary now. BTW I've been discussing with a friend if this separation will last until Series 5.

Character Analysis » Mary – the subject of discussion » March 17, 2015 9:35 am

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Vhanja wrote:

If she meant to kill him in the first place, it would make much more sense for her to simply shoot him in the head (as is shown in the alternative version). She is a trained assassin, it's her job to kill quickly and effeciently. The way she shot him was not quick and effecient, a bullet to the brain would have been.

Like I mentioned many posts back I think Mary didn’t shoot Sherlock in the head because when he’d arrive John would know he was beyond help and may decide to chase after the killer instead of giving her the distraction she needs to make a clean getaway.
 

Character Analysis » Mary – the subject of discussion » March 16, 2015 5:39 pm

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Lola Red wrote:

That meta is quite interesting. I never realized that Mary was already in the restaurant. It does pose the question of what could be so important that she had to leave halfway through the proposal, she could always dismiss a phone call (or cross her legs).
The flicker of the eyes I find not conclusive, could work as a “and there is Sherlock”, as a “what is that waiter doing here” or a “oh look, movement”.
It does take her a long time to recognize Sherlock, though she has never met him in person before and (assuming she was not planted) there would be no reason to expect her so see him. So that part would kind of work either way for me.

But Sherlock is not like say a reality show and they are not filming Mary and John live without any prior direction. Two consecutive furtive looks (and I mean really furtive, I noticed them very recently. We all are so absorbed with Sherlock and John's part of the scene) like those doesn't make much sense. It feels so random. And she is doing this when John is about to propose to her and she already has guessed what is about to happen. And she is still being distracted by the ambience?

Also, a person like Mary taking this long to recognize the famous Sherlock while dating his best friend -who she helped recover from the grief of his death- and after John's violent reaction is rather hard for me to swallow. Maybe she tried to act to appear the things you said she should normally react to Sherlock and not being tipped off but overcompensated to fool/bluff him? Donno, but now that I think about it maybe this (and perhaps coupled with the fact she totally convinced John of her liking for his mustache while actually loathing it) is what led to Sherlock's infamous liar deduction.

Character Analysis » Mary – the subject of discussion » March 16, 2015 4:34 pm

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Whisky wrote:

SusiGo wrote:

Sorry if this is not referring to the last posts but I found this TEH meta quite interesting. Especially the idea that Mary might have observed Sherlock from above:

http://deducingbbcsherlock.tumblr.com/post/81317834836/if-you-havent-already-done-it-id-be-interested

I'm not convinced there is something off in her reaction to Sherlock. It's interesting, but it doesn't convince me. Sherlock was in disguise, I think it's okay for her to take a few moments to make the connection. Especially if you don't expect somebody to be alive. I can't imagine her lurking around on the upper floor, either. If she was behaving like this all the time, taking secret calls, observing, like she has her own agenda, John would get suspicious at some point, wouldn't he? I think she really tried for the Mary role, and I think that excludes taking secret phonecalls during proposal dinner. I also would totally say "sorry that took so long" when going to the toilet just before someone wants to ask me a question like that. Maybe she was nervous indeed.

I find her reaction to the proposal stranger than her reaction to Sherlock.
 

Mary the secret agent/ stoic assassin and nervous doesn’t sound right together. I mean this woman heard his husband’s best friend’s voice just when she was about to kill the person who was threatening to expose the secrets she desperately wanted to keep and still remained perfectly calm and rational. She is the last  person who's gonna run to the bathroom for a breather after deducing her then boyfriend would propose her.


 
And if she was having a meltdown and needed to take a breather why did John decide to just sit it out? When she returns it’s actually her who’s asking him if he’s ok and it’s visibly him who’s the nervous one here. And looks like John didn’t even

Character Analysis » Mary – the subject of discussion » March 16, 2015 4:31 pm

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SusiGo wrote:

Sorry if this is not referring to the last posts but I found this TEH meta quite interesting. Especially the idea that Mary might have observed Sherlock from above:

http://deducingbbcsherlock.tumblr.com/post/81317834836/if-you-havent-already-done-it-id-be-interested

Also she gives furtive looks towards her right, where Sherlock went away minutes ago and from where he’ll appear soon! (Just watch the scene if you can for now if you wanna be sure, I’ll gif it soon.)




 

Current Affairs » How democratic is the internet really? » March 16, 2015 3:52 pm

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saturnR wrote:

I mean when the top searches or the top results that show up on the Internet are Miley Cyrus & Justin Beiber.

You would think if you were an alien intelligent society on another planet & you intercepted Google feeds from planet Earth as being representative of the super conscious of human beings that the entire planet spends most of its time watching teen pop stars & a family called the Kardashians. You'd think that that was all that humans did with their time.

I'm sure that if you run a search in North Korea the top results would be how to kiss your president's ass.

But at least the Koreans are honest about it.

Maybe that's why they don't visit Earth! 
 

Random Sherlockiana » Who to use for Android game » March 16, 2015 3:45 pm

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Could it be possible to let the player choose the appearance of Sherlock? You know, like RPG games.

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