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His Last Vow » A.G.R.A » January 21, 2014 7:58 pm

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SusiGo wrote:

In the Sherlock US panel Moffat and Gatiss said that Mary would have an important role in series 4 and that they would not kill her off in between the two series. 

 
Thanks for that info...I had not seen that. So, I will revise my theory and say that Mary will die in some heroic way in Season 4, Episode 1, and then we can get on with the show.

His Last Vow » What Sherlock did... » January 21, 2014 7:19 pm

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Do you mean, is Sherlock thinking about Mary's unborn child?

I doubt it.

Introductions Please... » Hello from Switzerland » January 21, 2014 7:05 pm

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Welcome, Karin! And don't worry about your English--most native speakers/writers don't do well with it either...

Introductions Please... » Hullo! » January 21, 2014 6:59 pm

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Welcome from the north (north of Florida, that is...). Glad to have you!

Introductions Please... » A quick hello » January 21, 2014 6:57 pm

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Welcome!

I think even those original critics of Molly now respect her more, and I would hazard a guess that most fans enjoy seeing her scenes with Sherlock.

Introductions Please... » Season 3 » January 21, 2014 6:54 pm

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Welcome to another 'murican.

I didn't scream when he came through the window and kissed Molly, but I sure did like it! Pretty sure Loo Brealey did, too...

The Empty Hearse » PBS Version was shown uncut! » January 21, 2014 6:42 pm

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Yay! I was pleasantly surprised to see the full, uninterrupted episode on PBS with captions! I don't watch telly normally, and didn't even know we could get the PBS station. I had only seen TEH on youtube, all chopped up with black-out moments, and missed much.

Having now properly seen the episode, I must say that it is one of my favorites in the entire three series. And the documentary about Sherlock immediately following was an unexpected bonus. I only hope the documentary ends up on the DVDs, 'cause I'm sure I missed some things in the initial viewing.

Kudos to PBS!

The Empty Hearse » The theory he told Anderson - The actual answer?? » January 21, 2014 6:36 pm

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I posted this elsewhere, but after the PBS airing of "The Empty Hearse", there was an hour of commentary on the Sherlock series. As part of that documentary, there were interviews both with Jonathan Aris (Anderson) and Moffat/Gatiss. In both interviews, the principals seemed clearly to indicate that Sherlock was not giving Anderson the correct details, and that we would be wise not to trust the explanation we see.

Character Analysis » does the we're not gay joke ever get old? » January 21, 2014 6:32 pm

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I have a question for British/European folks: Is it unusual for sexuality to be discussed/joke about in shows with the frequency that it is here? I mean, every single episode (I think) has references to this joke in it. Not to be uncharitable, but I have almost wondered if Mark Gatiss hasn't done this specifically because he himself identifies with being homosexual.

His Last Vow » What Sherlock did... » January 21, 2014 5:48 pm

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silverblaze wrote:

Possibly. But by that logic, Sherlock's coat has been screaming 'death' at us for three series. Though to be fair he dies a lot. 

 
That was simply hilarious.

His Last Vow » What Sherlock did... » January 21, 2014 5:47 pm

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Swanpride wrote:

I bet when it comes to protecting said children, most of us would be ready to go into a grey area, morality be damned. Sherlock is right, "Love is a more vicious motivator".

 
I don't think protecting our children in such a scenario puts us in a grey area at all. In fact, I would say it would be morally wrong not to do anything necessary to protect our children (or anyone else's, for that matter) if they were in danger. I don't know about any of you guys, but I'd take a bullet to protect any of you if someone were threatening your life, and I'd also expend a bullet (which I'd much rather do than be shot myself) to protect any of you.

His Last Vow » A.G.R.A » January 21, 2014 5:38 pm

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Well, besleybean, I don't like to say, "I knew that!" after something has happened, but I'm with you--the setting with them standing right next to the fire...

By the way, I thought this was one of the most beautiful scenes of the episode. John offers Mary something unbelievable, being his unconditional love. (As a word of qualification, I will add that I think he's absolutely crazy for doing so, given Mary's obvious lack of "repentance" from her former ways, but hey, love is crazy like that...) Mary's tears indicate to me a heart completely overwhelmed by John's offer of love, and it all makes such delightful telly.

And I think the memory stick is gone. I don't like it, but I think that's what we are supposed to believe really happened--no looking back on Mary's past.

The Empty Hearse » Flaws In Theory #3 » January 21, 2014 5:24 pm

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Well, for anyone that has seen the post-episode airing on PBS of TEH, I'd say we have a final answer:

In an interview (I assume for PBS), the creators pretty much acknowledge that Theory #3 is just that--a theory, but not necessarily what really happened. Even Jonathan Aris says in an interview that, basically, we' be naive to believe the version that Sherlock told Anderson.

His Last Vow » What Sherlock did... » January 21, 2014 5:21 pm

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Be wrote:

There is no such thing as right and wrong in an absolute sense. There is always a shade of grey between black and white. Or pink if you fancy that.
Something is right today and might be wrong tomorrow under other circumstances. Something is right for you but wrong for me. Rules change in changing times. Everything is a matter of perspective, distance and how you percieve things, how you are brought up, what experiences you made in your life.
IMO, you need to make your choice in life and be respectful towards others and you still can get it wrong or change your mind and look at your decisions in retrospect. You need to forgive yourself and others. Judgements are easy about what is right and wrong. The canon stories are perfect examples of crimes or not-crimes and the background story Holmes deduced about how and why people did what they did.
His Last Vow gives us the chance to really look...

 
I am so very thankful that the world isn't really like this at all. Of course there are absolutes of morality. When people fail to believe that, they begin to justify all sorts of heinous and cruel acts.

When people begin these "live and let live" arguments, I fell they are failing to look at the natural end of such thinking. Do you have children, Be? Parents? Would it ever be okay for someone to apply your concept of a "shade of grey between black and white" in regards to harming them?

Just because we don't all agree on the standards doesn't mean that they don't exist. I would submit that some things are a matter of perspective, informed by our upbringing, environment, etc. (whether or not we eat meat, social protocols for usages of slang words, types and styles of clothing we wear, and so forth), but making allowances for those types of issues in no way abbrogates laws of morality.

His Last Vow » What Sherlock did... » January 17, 2014 11:06 pm

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besleybean wrote:

I firmly disagree,

I firmly acknowledge your right to disagree!

besleybean wrote:

Decent peoples come together and get to decide what is right and wrong.

But "decent" is kinda squishy, don't you think?

besleybean wrote:

This becomes enshrined in The Rule of Law and we are all equal before that.

That sounds like quite a doctrinal statement.

besleybean wrote:

I don't need a mythical god to tell me murder is wrong, I can work that out all by myself.

I agree, but I submit that we need God to understand the concept of wrong in the first place.

besleybean wrote:

I also prefer civil justice, over  the miniscule chance of a tree falling on a car(And incidently, you'd imagine a divine super power could do better than that).

We agree here, too. But often there is beauty is the simplicity of things, and I appreciate that.

besleybean wrote:

And really?
John knows Sherlock is alive and after last time, this is reward enough.

You may well be right. Just a thought I had.
 

General Sherlock Discussion » Downloading Season 3 » January 17, 2014 10:48 pm

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I watched the episodes on youtube, with annoying little blackouts every few moments (put there, I assume, to keep them from being taken down). I don't know whether it was legal for the person who put them up to do so, but, as I have already pre-ordered the DVDs, I felt fine in watching them.

From an enjoyment perspective, I can't recommend them, as I feel I missed much watching them that way (I always watch movies with captions, and missed them sorely). I can't wait to see them again when my DVDs come next month some time.

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