Awards » BAFTA'S MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS » May 28, 2012 12:00 am |
Pfff, I just found this:
I hadn't realised what had won last year,not that I've seen it (and probably not that I want to either?)
(I didn't leave the UK because I felt an odd one out in my own country, but even if/when I return, it's not changed that much. Sigh.)
Awards » BAFTA'S MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS » May 27, 2012 11:27 pm |
I am still interested to know just how important winning is for future jobs and money for this nominated programmes/actors etc. I mean,the nominated status is still a big deal, isn't it?
Of course ardent fans for whatever reason/people who just enjoy this kind of quality programme, should be reflected fairly in peoples' vote settings but is anyone going to stop loving Sherlock because it didn't win, or is winning the reason why someone starts watching rather than 'becuase it's so good' recommendations?
It's hard to be believe that luvvy duvvy BAFTA types can be biased against the programme or Benedict. He does,I guess, run the risk of not appearing LCD enough - you know, the anti-so-called posh accent etc thing - to the general public(whoever they are). Is he also at risk a bit of the seen to be too successful and popular thing? (ironically)
Perhaps these subjects havealready been discussed to bits elsewhere on this board.
Awards » BAFTA'S MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS » May 27, 2012 10:51 pm |
tobeornot221b wrote:
I'm gonna need it during the German dubbed Reichenbach episode tomorrow night...
Uh oh. I read your account of the Scandal episode
Sounded dire.
Definitely. Hold.On.To.The.Shock.Blankets....
*bracing myself on your behalves*
Edited to add:
Thanks for the clip of Andrew!
He's so ...lovely.
Awards » BAFTA'S MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS » May 27, 2012 10:39 pm |
Sorry you are so upset.
If the award wasn't comparative based on... neh,I guess nothing is adequate explanation right now.
Here's the shock blanket (cleaned and refolded), and yeh, try to think of Andrew's face during his speech...
(really really sorry)
* hiding*
I don't know what the Sherlock equivalent of Ted's cookies on BTVS are.
Other Cast & Production Team » Everything we need to know about Lara Pulver including interviews » May 27, 2012 10:18 pm |
Wow! Classy!
Thanks Irene.
Awards » BAFTA'S MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS » May 27, 2012 10:13 pm |
m0r1arty wrote:
...I thought Lord Sugar handled his award like a gent,
Oh yeh, a blunt gent but a gent neverthelss, tee hee.
He was himself, and enjoyed it.
I feel the same way about you re:investigating the audience category. I'm afraid I assume that any 'audience vote' thing 'may or may not be representative' and I'm not being cynical. Do you think the winner vs the runner ups means a lot (eg for funding?) in such votes?
Other Cast & Production Team » Everything we need to know about Lara Pulver including interviews » May 27, 2012 10:03 pm |
Davina wrote:
Helen Mirren was born, bred and educated in Southend-on-Sea and she certainly doesn't have an Essex accent anymore
Heh! Certainly not that I've heard! Perhaps she only does it in secret or with her family or childhood friends...John Barrymore does a nice Glaswegian with his parents, if I remember rightly. John Tennant gets to do his native accent in 'Tooth and Claw' (how does the Tardis adjust that for their listeners?..or does it?..OK, not a question for this thread).
Something I've always wondered is whether all actors have to learn a range of accents at actor school. I know some (like Martin Jarvis) are 'voice artists', perhaps these are the ones like yourself who are naturally good mimics. Has Phil Davis done anyhing not in SE accent?
I wouldn't have thought Lara's Irene accent is a learnt one, it's too 'quirky'?
Ooh, did you see her on the Union flag carpet? The streaming was very bad for the first 15mins and I just saw occasional frozen images of people's feet or knees in the outside shots.
Awards » BAFTA'S MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS » May 27, 2012 9:34 pm |
(fresh from streaming on the site m0r recommended but relinked four times when it froze, and not daring to split the signal before it was finished)
Aw, Andrew Scott so so in such genuine wonderment and joy at his award. Brought tears to the eyes. So lovely.
Very very sorry that Benedict didn't get it...perhaps I'm just too long in the tooth but I wasn't that surprised, not because I don't think he's fantastic and so forth but because I could envisage that the actual winner was also brilliant in the role he played which, for all Mofftis's writing, actually offered particular special opportunities to the actor concerned. Apologies to those who don't agree.
Almost of more value was Benedict being very gracious, and the respect his fellow actor had for him by providing a lovely opportunity to show it (along with the camera/editing person). I don't know what else Dominic has done but Benedict has the presence of someone who will be one of the reallygreats over time. Looking forward to his Fellowship! (Rolf Harris! Wow! Another lovely response to an award).
Thanks again m0r, it was just wonderful to feel connected to it all, even if I hadn't seen or even heard of so much of it...including the Juice thing. Much of the British public and I have different tastes and I guess I'm used to it after all these years. Frustrating sometimes, but so long as they still make things like Sherlock too...
Awards » BAFTA'S MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS » May 27, 2012 5:59 pm |
Ooh thanks m0r!
Other Cast & Production Team » Everything we need to know about Lara Pulver including interviews » May 27, 2012 5:50 pm |
Davina wrote:
Lara will be at the BATFAs tonight. She has tweeted that she will not be going in Irene's "battle dress". 'Call me old fashioned and all...!'
Mm, looking foward to seeing footage/pics from this, she looked sooo glamorous even in her outddoor clothes on Sherlock!
Re: her accent in Sherlock and her origins (I've not heard her in other roles but presume it's like her reallife accent?), this mystified me too as it doesn't quite sound like anywhere consistently, and is not pure SE - to me it sounded as if there's a Liverpudlian or at least a 'northern' element in it somehow.
Davina wrote:
I have just found out that Lara Pulver is an Essex girl, although a IMBD website says Kent! No she isn't from Kent. Not unless Southend-on-Sea has moved to the other side of the Thames estuary without me noticing!!
I read this too and checked a BMD site, her birth was registered in Southend on Sea district but to my ears (and accents are something I notice though am rubbish at mimicing) she does not speak with an Essex accent - at least, I dated someone born and bred next door to 'Saafend' for three years, and listened to Ian Dury quite a bit and this isn't it.
One doesn't necessarily grow up where one's birth is registered, nor speak with the 'local' accent either. I lived in East Kent for a few years, and I agree, what local accent I heard there doesn't quite fit. So I wondered if she had a parent from elsewhere (eg I still spoke with my parents' accent when we moved across the north/south divide). Her dad seemed pretty certainly of SE origin, and there is a strong candidate for her mum based on age, also registered in the SE. So dead end.
Or so I thought...but in revisiting the sites whilst writing this message I discover I'd dismissed another possible candidate for her mum - whose birth was registered in Liverpool!
So I think that's probably it?
Sherlock would not have made the mistake I did first time round. Sigh.
NB B
Sherlock Quizzes » Sherlock Holmes Quiz Thread » May 26, 2012 6:36 pm |
"Damn you Sherlockitty!"
*shakes fist in appropriate stereotypic fashion*
(Not really!)
Point of information: Are we allowed to research in any way we wish?
My previous quizzing experience required that one did not look anything up/watch eps specially in order to answer questions unless permitted. Don't want to break the rules, so please could you clarify?
edited to add...
Not sure how it works...if Irene has 7 already? ..nah, I'm missing something here.
Trying to avoid 'splitting the hairs on hairs in an annoying to others in a social setting' way. :$
"Ambiguity, thy name is Reichenbach Fall! Or was? That is the question..."
PS Where does everyone else get their range of emoticons from?
Sherlock Quizzes » Sherlock Holmes Quiz Thread » May 26, 2012 5:32 pm |
So true, Davina, not leaving the case with the victim was especially not consistent with the murderer taking care to to leave evidence likely to be interpreted as a 'solo suicide scenario', and made it more likely that the victim was taken to Lauriston Gardens in a vehicle. Oops! and double Oops!
Note to self:
Gah! Should have mentioned 'frankly alarming shade of' pink!
Although
***Pedantry alert!***
Sherlock himself said it was the murderer's first big mistake, which it was, in the round. However, it does not preclude other explanations for the absence of the case, some of which were dismissed in passing.
In fact, I think it was a piece of luck that the case was not with the victim, as Sherlock would then have had the inferenes that it provided sooner (presuming LeStrade had enabled him to go through it, and Sherlock had his extra nicotine patches with him): Since this was the third such unexplained death that had come to the attention of the police, and the press were clamouring for results, all evidence was bound to be sought and examined quite carefully, even if an 'unconnected suicide' remained a possibility.
Yet, even allowing for a slightly cleverer perp who for whatever reason planned not to leave the case at the scene, they switched their brains off regarding the unusual frankly alarming shade it was in and how this might enable any detective to prioritise its investigation over those in other colours. How much did they really 'think it through'? Why not dump the case a long way away? Hide it in a lock up? Or throw it in the river after slashing it? The cabbie had a vehicle which would not draw attention, knew London well, and had ample opportunity to be aware of where there were CCTV cameras and where there were not. So many people just dump stuff on the pavement (boo!) and most people are strangers to one another and turn a blind eye. If he was still caring at some level and driven to crime by
Sherlock Quizzes » Sherlock Holmes Quiz Thread » May 26, 2012 3:35 am |
Wow, good answering!
Still, I guess I'll try for a honorable mention, if only for barrel-scraping pedantism, with
3.
Sherlock did indeed state that the error was 'Pink' (and I for one wouldn't want to argue with him on his choice of word) but I presume he meant: the cabbie's failure to realise that the murder vicitm's seriously colour-coordinated pinkness would make her inferredly pink suitcase relatively easy to identify amongst the gerzillions of otherwise black, blue, red etc suitcases dumped in London,
which is not nearly such a pithy line for a great detective.
To avoid Sherlock catching up with him, he should have emptied all her stuff into a black suitcase, or perhaps a Swansea City hold-all, and left that in a dumpster, whilst leaving the pink case at a Barbie convention. As it is, every cloud has a silver(y pink) lining, and he had some fun pursuing his 'tremendous ambitions' before they came to nought.
Reichenbach Theories » Go on then...what are your theories? » May 26, 2012 2:59 am |
LOL :D
General Sherlock Discussion » Have you had any dreams about Sherlock? » May 26, 2012 2:47 am |
Last night (in fact this morning after I'd already been woken up by the person who revs their car at 6am, and put 4extra's latest Dr Who episode on again) I dream that I met Benedict Cumberbatch. At a dinner (yeh, and before you infer anything, be aware there were at least ten people around the table, none of whom I knew, and I don't remember there being any food etc; that's life,I guess)
He was recognisable physically (sometimes one just knows who someone is but they don't look like they really do, if you know what I mean) but his hair was fluffy as per Sherlock on his left side, but on the other side largely missing - and most obvious to me was that his eye brow on that side looked as if it had been shaved as well! I noticed this in the dream and thought it odd but thought it would be rude to mention it. The other strange thing were his hands - they were very large (which I did comment on, in an amazed kind of way) but the skin was really loose, like over-sized thin plastic gloves.
Sadly I did not have the presence of mind to enquire how Sherlock had survived (and, truth be told, I would not dare ask him even if I really met him - in case it was annoying!) but still hope that somehow my brain is trying to point out something helpful. Since it wasn't a snake with its tail in it's mouth, it probably isn't a benzene ring. I guess the Frankenstein monster could be in their somewhere? I've also thought his eyebrows (both of them) look a bit too blonde to go with his hair in some episodes.
But the weird hands? Neh, no idea where they came from. Not from anything on the radio, I listened to it whilst awake.
Not nearly as exciting as other people's dreams but still, I add it to the collection.
I think it's a case of 'Dream on' ?
Introductions Please... » Hello from Ann Arbor » May 26, 2012 2:22 am |
Thanks, Milkomedia!
How is the weather in Quebec? It's already July in Michigan.
*reads again about your online name*
Cool.
I know nothing much about it but just looking at the night sky is awesome. I tried to photo the Jupiter and Venus (?) on my e-camera a few months back, but my sister thought they must be fire flies.
Milkomedia wrote:
Well, I would also like to do neuroscience and quantum chemistry, but I can't stay at school all my life
Not 'paying for' type school may be but other ways...never give up, you don't know what might happen in the future.
A Scandal In Belgravia » Scenes Cut From U.S. Broadcast » May 25, 2012 2:49 am |
sherlockskitty wrote:
...at first I had no idea that PBS cut scenes out, until I saw the shows online and heard ppl complaining here and elsewhere. so I just HAD to get the dvds.
Me too (Series 2 viz), though mine haven't arrived yet.
The fire starting did seem to come out of nowhere (well, it did if that scene was cut) - I put it down to clever writing! What do I know? Sigh.
I put Disc1 of the first series in my DVD player so many times the little plastic circle bit in the middle cracked and fell off on of one side. I have to be very careful to reconstruct it when loading it into my computer (after my DVD player died in service, so to speak).
The Hounds Of Baskerville » HOUNDS sentence forerunner for Reichenbach? » May 25, 2012 2:28 am |
What about "Got to see a man about a dog"?
Of course this could just be the well known euphemism/yet another dog joke, but my instinct was to link it to the next scene, the man being Mycroft and the dog being Moriarty, and Sherlock initiating? Moriarty's release now he's got some other things sorted.
Actually I think it's usually "Going to see a man about a dog" but I guess there could be regional variations.
Introductions Please... » Hello from Ann Arbor » May 25, 2012 12:49 am |
Hi Carl! *waves kind of SW*
Hi Sherlockskitty, fellow PBS-watcher and somehow connected by land
*waves vaguely in a wide arc*
Wow, 60 stories - definitely something to get one's teeth into and plenty to choose from second time around, must be fun to reread them with new perspective too? I've not seen Merlin yet, something else to look forward to. Living in the UK? - less space in houses and much more expensive. And full of people with different British accents which I really miss. And really nice Cadbury's chocolate. And more buses.
I'll definitely look up those Brett films, it'll be like visiting old friends! I swear one version or another of the Hound of the Baskervilles was on every Christmas for years.
and
Thanks, Sherlock Holmes, without whom such enjoyment could not be had.
The Reichenbach Fall » Glycerol Molecule » May 24, 2012 11:33 pm |
Oh! Even a molecular model? =) =) That's so cool.
*well impressed*
Thanks to the more recent
I found
which I think would be consistent with the 'E' for Ester theory.
Still not sure just how careful the writers are about these details, I'd love to think they'd take more care on this show because of the viewer profile but I've learnt not to expect too much in general. Has there ever been mention of a scientific advisor for these aspects of 'Sherlock'? I've not paid enough attention to the credits?