The Reichenbach Fall » Something I'm absolutely sure of - preparations for the fall. » March 29, 2013 4:46 pm |
"9. The crowd, half of them paramedics, supply the necessaries to stage the death (blood, stretcher, etc.). Sherlock's rubber ball is under his right armpit, preventing a readable heartbeat from his right wrist. Fake doctor ensures the right wrist is the one John checks (btw, fake doctor has a stethoscope on him but dresses like that? And if he was already clocked in at work, where's his lab jacket?). "
buuuuuut doctors don't wear lab coats necessarily in Britain. Also-especially given that Barts does not have an A&E department he might actually have been, I dunno, a dermatologist. Or a midwife.
Or he could just have been freaking incompetant. What if Sherlock said, "listen Molly, when I fall I especially want you to make sure that guy with the multiple negligence suits against him" is sent out.. Oh and tell him to make sure he shakes my shoulder as much as possible.".
Well it would work :-)
The Reichenbach Fall » Alan Davies: Jonathan Creek solved the mystery of Sherlock's fall » March 29, 2013 3:03 pm |
I love it
In order to cheat death Sherlock arranged for a 6 x 2 m rectangle in West Smithfield Street to be dug up, replaced with a trampoline and then covered over again so as to look like paving slabs and he did it with around 3 hours notice, in the middle of the night and without arousing the suspicion of Moriaty's gang.
It doesn't seem that much more farfetched than the idea that a fairy tale 7 ft golem is responsible for the London art gallery murders.
Character Analysis » Analysis of Mycroft's character » March 29, 2013 2:36 pm |
Ah ETA ignore this. Anthea also wears a ring on the right hand. Interesting. Do the masons not wear a ring on their right hand?
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He wears a ring on his right hand
In Britain this mainly indicates a same sex marriage
But it can, I believe, indicate widower status.
Either are possible, I guess (though I think its obvious which the show hints at). What I find interesting is that a. he has or has had a significant relationship b. he wishes to be open about this and c. if it is a same sex relationship it is highly unlikely, even in uber-tolerant Sherlock alternative reality world, to be one of conveniance.
In Britain men do not always even wear wedding rings. He could certainly be married without wearing a ring, so the only reason to wear it is a. either that he sees it as politically helpful or b. that he cares enough to take the hit.
All this falls away if he is widowed, I guess, or if he's using widowerhood as the pretext for the ring. But, yk, on seeing a ring on the right hand I think most in the know Brits would assume a same sex marriage.
So this says to me that there is someone he cares about as well as Sherlock. Given this its interesting that we never see this person, that they are never referenced. Every single character that meets him must wonder and wonder how this intergrates with him as the "Ice Queen".
And given this, why do Irene and Moriaty use Sherlock to get to Mycroft? Not whoever this person is he wears a ring for?
(I've read that it was actually a production mistake-that the ring was left on by accident. But note he's still wearing it in later scenes, and still on the right hand. I've just run a check on google images and he's wearing it whenever we see his right hand, so my guess is that they decided to run with it and I want to see where they are going. Aside from anything, the idea that the man who "is the British government" i
Reichenbach Theories » Right so the truck theory... » March 29, 2013 1:27 pm |
ok yes I take that back re thank you. What is out of character might be more throwing himself in front of a moving truck.
Series Three News » Amanda Abbington confirmed by BBC » March 29, 2013 1:13 pm |
I don't want her to be Harry because I really want Catherine Tate to be Harry. But if for some reason (and I cannot think of a single good reason for that ;-) ) that were not possible, I think that would make an interesting plot twist.
But I do think, dramatically, John needs to have moved on and settled down and all the rest and he needs to be married to someone, really. TBH I don't see much dramatic tension in the idea that he's spent two or three years mooning around after Sherlock. My sense is that the story arc is really, mainly, not about Sherlock in some ways but John's journey. His person jouney from wounded war vet, of reintergration into society, the whole sexuality question that is kind of a joke but also very insistent. He's gone from a very regimented world in terms of both morality and ethics but also just having a structure round him and a clear sense of what is expected of him-and he loses that pretty much overnight when he is invalided out. The implcation is that he's pretty much cut himself off from society in order to join the army, including being estraged from his sister-and he has to reintergrate to this. His whole world, every part of it is shaken to the core by Sherlock and those few years after I think need to be about him consolodating this knowledge, this roller coaster he's been on. So he needs to do what most people in their forties do do, which is settling down, marrying, raising a family perhaps (they won't have kids though-too complex). To put it another way, given he's not disinterested in the ladies, and given that now Sherlock is out of the way and so not preventing him either emotionally or practicallly from committing, then unless the wildest slash dreams of tumblrs everywhere are about to be realised, he needs to be married (or long term relationship).
ETA to put it another way. John is Sherlock's foil. Without Sherlock, John is ordinary. (ish). So for dramatic constrast, we need to see John with
Reichenbach Theories » How did Sherlock's coat survive the fall so well? » March 29, 2013 1:07 pm |
Its in excellent nick when we see it in the graveyard scene.
I do love the thought that in the time between his fall, his funeral and John's visit to the grave, Sherlock has popped it into the dry cleaners.
Reichenbach Theories » Right so the truck theory... » March 29, 2013 12:34 pm |
OK I posted this on the other thread but I have a new favourite theory now, and I want to hear whether you think it might fly. Haven't seen this anywhere else so...maybe its a bit far fetched. Ok
Here's it in a nutshell cos below I'm thinking out loud.
Its not the homeless network who saves him but the remaining assasins who are after the keycode. There are two left at this point and it could be either. He has not planned this in advance but is relying on it in the way that he relies on one of them saving him after he throws himself in front of a truck. I don't know what exactly they do-maybe pushing a laundry cart in his way as this clever person suggests . Everything else is basically opportunistic-he chooses his place to fall because there is a laundry cart nearby and, logically, some wheeled means of getting the laundry there. As I've said above, his speed is slow enough that if his fall was broken he'd survive. Also, if he'd fallen from even a smallish height odds are that blood might be real. Head wounds bleed stupidly much, any parent knows this.
Still some flaws, not least that why did the doctors move him, especially the one young guy who is shaking his shoulder? You don't shake someone's shoulder when they've fallen 70 ft! The cyclist? I don't know.
Oh and just to ETA too...doesn't the female assain look remarkably like the woman playing who we think is Mary Morsten in the new series? Blond, scraped back hair, similar make up...just saying, yk?
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leaving this in because its a pain when someone etas and deletes a thread in the process :-)
I wonder if it might be not the homeless network but the assaisns. At the point Sherlock jumps, they don't know he no longer has the keycode. We've already seen that they will go to extreme lengths, even effec
Reichenbach Theories » we don't see the pavement where Sherlock lands.... » March 29, 2013 12:17 pm |
"And taught sheet pulled tight by homeless network to catch him then the sheet thrown on the back of the truck after they roll Sherlock onto the ground?"
yk, when I think of other denouments in the Sherlock universe-like that the murders were committed by a 7 ft fairy tale golem or that in fact it was all hallocenogenic gas-that doesn't seem that implausible,
I just think we needed to have seen some suggestion of this-a Checkov gun-beforehand.
I don't think this works, I'm throwing this off the top of my head but one thing we see throughout the episode is that, effectively, Sherlock cannot die. The assasins or whatver they are will actually save him. He believes in this enough to step in front of a lorry-and it works. Could that possibly have been what he was relying on? He stands up there for ages chatting away, in full view...plenty of time for these henchmen-who are stalking him, and of whom I think there are two left-to asssemble. I've never completely understood what those assasins placed round baker street actually do for the plot and they are not Jim's henchmen,
And , yk, at this point, there's no reason for them to believe Sherlock doesn't still have the keycode.
And it clears up another small plot point which is that, using the laundry truck/cart or even crash cart theory, half of Barts is conspiring to ensure Sherlock is alive-and keep this from John who a. has friends there (Stanford) and b. trained there and is a doctor.
And final random thing-and I don't think the casting actually allows for this now but I'm throwing it out there.I'd say that the female assain actually looks remarkably like the new female character introduced in season 3. Mainly in the hair and make up.
Series Three Suggestions & Ideas » Which "offscreen" characters would you like to see made flesh? » March 29, 2013 11:47 am |
I would love to see Harry Watson, John's sister, especially as I think there is general agreement that she is Catherine Tate. That would basically be awesome, serious comic relief. Clara too, though I don't have such a strong idea of what she's like.
I'd also really like a bit more depth to Mycroft and so I'd love to see his significant other-who I assume is male (if for no better reason than that he wears a wedding ring and its on his right hand). Clearly has has, or has had, someone in his life (I do seem to remember that a right hand ring can also mean you are a widower). It would be interesting anyway because the implication here is that there are two people in the world he cares about-not just Sherlock but the person he wears a ring for. But then there are those Christmas Eve scenes when he is completely alone in Holmes Manor. Its an unexplained complexity and it would be interesting to see how he relates to whoever else there is in his life who is important to him.
If the ring was on the left hand I'd assume a marraige of convenience to a woman and that would be the end of it, with no real comment either way on his actual sexuality because my god he would be able to pull that off. But no, presumably he's married to a man which to me, even in the uber-tolerant Sherlock universe, does suggest he's put himself on the line, albeit perhaps slightly, to declare that he loves someone. So this person is probably pretty interesting. (and we know that his whole "caring is not an advantage" speech is spiel anyway-he following it up with giving Sherlock a low tar cigarette.")
Series Three Suggestions & Ideas » How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead? » March 29, 2013 11:39 am |
Random suggestion, random random suggestion but my first thought when hearing about a female character of importance to both of them was that she might just might be Moran (from the canon-Moriaty's "John Watson"., she's for whatever reason married John and obviously that's a bit of a problem .
I'm not sure how much I like this theory, mainly because it doesn't seem to tally that well with the spoilers coming out now, but also because, thinking on Jim, not sure if he'd have a right hand woman. His "get Sherlock" club seems to be a very boys own affair.
But I do like the dramatic tension in the idea that Mary Morsten is Colonel Moran, and that the way she actually takes revenge on Sherlock is not by killing him but by domesticating John. I think this fits with the general idea that the fall is a psychological /emtional one, stripping Sherlock of his support network but especially stripping him of John.
Series Three Suggestions & Ideas » How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead? » March 27, 2013 11:01 pm |
yeah I hope they stick to canon here. Mary Morsten was seriously kick -ass and also, I think, far more interesting than either canon or Sherlock Irene Adler who is a bit 2D imo...
Series Three News » Has the weather affected filming? » March 27, 2013 10:58 pm |
I dunno, never seen snow in early november that I can remember!
this year though, who knows?
Series Three News » Has the weather affected filming? » March 27, 2013 9:56 pm |
well reasonably proper snow today/tonght here in Cardiff. So if there is a snowy scene it was probably filmed tonight :-)
Reichenbach Theories » Right so the truck theory... » March 27, 2013 5:13 pm |
Well by "cut" I just meant time loss.Cut time. Sorry if that wasn't clear, I don't know all the jargon I'm afraid.
I agree he could have survived, just, though I still think its too high really. But he'd have been risking serious injuries, internal bleeding, a snapped spine. A lot of people who fall that distance just don't make it. I've know two, sadly. The Sherlock we see doesn't just survive. Also, if he'd fallen that distance my god he'd have needed a neck brace! (tbh even if he fell onto a crash mat...)
I agree it makes no sense how he falls. He turns 90 degrees and ends up horizontal when there is no reason for him not to hit the ground feet first.
Its hard of course to know what is filming and drama and what is put in there as a clue, but my hunch is that they might be playing with our expectations and assumptions a little in this scene. And I'm assuming there are no accidents or filming mistakes, because if there are, it just gets impossible.
The truck thing...the more I think about it the less I like it. He'd have had to have launched himself with force to land in the truck and he just doesn't.
Reichenbach Theories » we don't see the pavement where Sherlock lands.... » March 27, 2013 5:02 pm |
No we really don't see the truck leaving straight away!
We see Sherlock's body fall to the bottom of the frame and we don't see the pavement
Then we cut to John and get him for a bit, running toward Sherlock and then with the cyclist and the rest. And somewhere in there we see the head of Sherlock and the truck.
And then we get an overhead shot of the body outside the rectangle with people rushing about and at this point, the laundry truck has pulled away.
(I'll tell you what else, I've watched that clip way too many times now and that cyclist is Sherlock, I'm convinced of it, Or his twin brother Have we consdered that theory ;-) ?)
Reichenbach Theories » we don't see the pavement where Sherlock lands.... » March 27, 2013 4:48 pm |
oh no there is another problem
I can't do screen grabs really, but I think he falls into the frame and rolls from the building side not the truck side.
My goodness this is a brainscatcher! you have to hand it to them, they've kept us amused for months with this.
Reichenbach Theories » we don't see the pavement where Sherlock lands.... » March 27, 2013 4:41 pm |
just a thought
I've rewatched the video and we do not see the pavement where Sherlock falls.
This means it would be, I think possible for someone to place a landing cushion on the pavement
He'd still be injured I would have thought, and cartoon physics would be required because he'd still have landed at around 40 mph which is not something I'd have thought a thin crash mat would solve but hey.
So the truck puts out the mat, Sherlock falls onto the mat, rolls over (generally, when you've fallen 70 feet I don't think you are in a state to roll over), off mat, mat is pulled up by the truck which drives away.
The only problem is that this requires some kind of a magic crash mat.
Reichenbach Theories » Not On St Barts » March 27, 2013 4:31 pm |
yeah I assumed it was the courts of justice which seemed fitting really. I assumed that that was a deliberate shot.
Reichenbach Theories » Unusual behavior compilation » March 27, 2013 4:26 pm |
"And at the very end I'll put a FUN FACT:
I know this because I am German: In German the word fall (Fall) has the same meaning as in English, but it does have another meaning as well. It can also mean "case" like the cases that Sherlock solves all the time! Which gives the words "I owe you a fall" an very interesting and funny ambiguity!"
German has been used a lot in the series too. Sherlock seems to be a German speaker. Its used to invert the Study in Scarlet clue (because that case was the opposite of revenge-it was truly senseless). So its interesting that it has the dual meaning there. I do think that the writers do play with this kind of thing in places actually.
Reichenbach Theories » Truck is leaving... TWICE! Hopefully the missing piece for a theory » March 27, 2013 4:17 pm |
Ha, I really really hope they avoided edit errors! I'm kind of assuming that they knew that this scene would be watched obsessively by fanboys and fangirls and hopefully didn't put in stuff like jumping trucks by accident I am assuming its very carefully crafted and I'll be really disapointed if it turns out he has unmentioned superpowers or something deus ex machina. I've noticed that he falls at the wrong speed-far too slow, as though he had some way of introducing air resistance/drag-and while I'm guessing that's dramatic license, I'm also aware that it might not be, that there IS something in this scene that we're probably missing.
So anyway, very interesting. And like another poster has said, the truck isn't normal. Trucks don't drive off to continue with their rounds when someone has committed suicide next to them. The drivers get out and offer to help. The truck, with its squishy contents, does have to be involved. I just don't see how he could have landed on it personally.