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April 27, 2012 7:16 am  #1


Analysis of Mycroft's character

Mycroft is, I think, an interesting character in the Shlock series. Very different from the Mycroft portrayed in the original stories. I thought it might be useful, and fun, to make a more detailed study of what we know about Mycroft.

I'll start it off with the bleeding obvious! Lol

Mycroft is Sherlock Holmes's  older brother.


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April 27, 2012 9:21 am  #2


Re: Analysis of Mycroft's character

He occupies a minor position in the British government. (He is the British government).


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April 27, 2012 9:41 am  #3


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He is on diet 


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April 27, 2012 10:21 am  #4


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He cares about Sherlock and worries about him constantly. He's a secret softie underneath his cool exterior!


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April 27, 2012 11:00 am  #5


Re: Analysis of Mycroft's character

He always carries an umbrella, no matter it's a sunny day (misterious umbrella, isn't it?)


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Waiting for a crazy man in a blue box to fall from the sky...

But the thing is, we've taken away all the things that can possibly have happened, so I suppose the only thing that's left, even though it seems really weird, must be the thing that did happen, in fact. (Miss Marple)

 

April 27, 2012 12:25 pm  #6


Re: Analysis of Mycroft's character

He is a member of The Diogenes Club.


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April 27, 2012 1:28 pm  #7


Re: Analysis of Mycroft's character

He doesn't like legwork.


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April 27, 2012 1:41 pm  #8


Re: Analysis of Mycroft's character

He can get your therapyst notes.


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Waiting for a crazy man in a blue box to fall from the sky...

But the thing is, we've taken away all the things that can possibly have happened, so I suppose the only thing that's left, even though it seems really weird, must be the thing that did happen, in fact. (Miss Marple)

 

April 27, 2012 2:36 pm  #9


Re: Analysis of Mycroft's character

He is even more brilliant in making deductions than his little brother.
He likes to drink something that looks like brandy.
He repeatedly threatens Sherlock with a knighthood.
He calls his mother "Mummy".


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John: "Have you spoken to Mycroft, Molly, uh, anyone?"
Mrs Hudson: "They don’t matter. You do."


I BELIEVE IN SERIES 5!




                                                                                                                  
 

April 27, 2012 5:17 pm  #10


Re: Analysis of Mycroft's character

He doesn't frequent cafes.


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April 27, 2012 5:22 pm  #11


Re: Analysis of Mycroft's character

Davina wrote:

He doesn't frequent cafes.

But IF he does, prior to that he smokes. 


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John: "Have you spoken to Mycroft, Molly, uh, anyone?"
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April 27, 2012 7:40 pm  #12


Re: Analysis of Mycroft's character

He doesn't prefer to text. He likes to speak.


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April 28, 2012 8:50 am  #13


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Hmm.
These are just things noticed so far more than analyses; not even observations really. To add to the things noticed list I would say he lives in a big house with life sized chess pieces in the living room.

Analysis & observations: Mycroft has a sense of 'family' because he does 'look out' for Sherlock, regardless of their sibling rivalry banter. He is not afraid to ask for his brother's help & does so often, usually because it involves legwork which is is loathe to do.
He is also not one to hold back when angry, just look at the cutting remarks made at the end of Scandal.
However he oversteps the boundaries of 'brotherhood' by thinking that Sherlock's friends are naturally his friends. eg "shut up Mrs Hudson".
He is wary of John at the start & why wouldn't he be? Here is some guy who has moved in with his 'antisocial' brother. You'd certainly raise an eyebrow or two wouldn't you? His brother is a genius and some army dude has 'latched on'????

He certainly does have a very high intellect but the difference between himself and Sherlock is that he is more 'in touch' with the outside world. This is paramount in his position with the Government. eg Kept up with gossip & knew who Irene Adler was.

I don't think Mycroft is THAT much different in BBC than in the canon, just a more rounded character. Comparing his aloofness, his laziness from then to now I don't believe he has changed much at all.
And if you look at the Jeremy Brett interpretation, in one show he asks Sherlock ' Is that Father's magnifying glass" "why did he give it to you?". The inference there is of sibling rivalry so it has been a common theme throughout really.

However this rivalry was probably the 'save' for Mycroft in Reichenbach. Obviously Moriarty did not think the bond between them was strong enough to set Mycroft up for assassination. So in reality, the public rivalry worked to their advantage. By what degree will be interesting to discover.

I believe the contrast in 'involvement' with each other between BBC and canon is the fact that in this day & age, everyone is in constant contact with each other through electronic devices. It may not have been than 'canon Mycroft' was not that involved or interested in his brother but more to do with the constraints of communication at that time. These days, we can be in contact with anyone or even just 'follow' anyone via the internets, phone etc.

So, once again I say to you guys " Don't just SEE, OBSERVE".

Last edited by kazza474 (April 28, 2012 8:51 am)


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April 28, 2012 9:26 am  #14


Re: Analysis of Mycroft's character

Good deductions!!

I don't really see that he's too different from Canon Mycroft either, it's just that Mycroft isn't really in the Canon that much, but what little we do see of him is pretty similar to BBC Mycroft. The joke about him being on a diet is a Canon nod which I know we mentioned at some point on another thread, because he's described as being "corpulent".


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April 28, 2012 9:30 am  #15


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Glad you agree on the 'not being too different' thing.
DO you see what I mean by 'things noticed vs observations vs deductions'?


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
 

April 28, 2012 10:57 am  #16


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Yeah, I suppose it's like a process. First you notice or see something, then you observe things about what you've seen, then you make deductions based upon your observations. Except the average person just stops at the 'seeing' part.


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April 28, 2012 4:19 pm  #17


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Analysis and deductions from an observation. He is a member of The Diogenes Club. There are many other grntleman's club in London that he could have chosen to be a member of.

Firstly, we can deduce that he has the standing required to be allowed to be a member of this exclusive club.

Secondly, he has chosen to belong to a club which has a rule of no talking, except in The Strangers' Room. This does, I think, tell us something of his character. That he is, like his brother, something of a loner socially.

Thirdly, It is also a club which is frequented by members of parliament and others of influence.; a place where people can get peace and quiet but where behind the scenes machinatioms could take place.

Fourthly, it is to this club that he has John Watson taken to explain about the assassins and The Richard Brook newspaper story; he knows that what goes on behind these doors, stays there.

Fifthly, It is here also, that after Sherlock's 'death' he is shown; he knows that here no questions can be asked of him. Interestingly the circumstances of his brothers demise has not affected his membership of the club.

To summarise:
Membership of the club underlines his membership of the establishment.
He likes to be less than sociable, at least at times.
He is a person involved in complex machinations who needs somewhere where nothing will be divulged.
He uses the club as his safe haven, it is a secure location for him emotionally.


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April 28, 2012 10:16 pm  #18


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I think for the most part we can take it that the characters have been taken from the canon & expanded upon. That being the case, and from Mycroft's attitude in the club he is in fact a co-founder of the club.

I don't really think his membership of the club shows him to be a loner. His job with the Government demands a lot of contact with people this is one of the many contrasts he has with Sherlock's characters that stands out & adds to the 'conflict' they have.
I think his involvement with the club & its patrons shows how he appears to be a manipulative force within the Government actually.


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
 

April 29, 2012 6:22 am  #19


Re: Analysis of Mycroft's character

Mycroft is a co-founder of a club where, socially, people are forbidden to converse. Interesting. Contact with people through work does not necessarily require him to be sociable outside of  work. Yes, agreed, a manipulative force both within government and, as Sherlock says, possibly outside of government. He is practically the British Government.


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November 2, 2012 10:21 pm  #20


Re: Analysis of Mycroft's character

Davina wrote:

Mycroft is a co-founder of a club where, socially, people are forbidden to converse.

That's an interesting tidbit for me. I'm new to much of the canon stuff and I didn't know this about The Diogenes club. I mean, I knew something was up when John came in and started talking to the folks who were just sitting around and they looked at him like he was nuts. The only other thing I ever knew about Mycroft was that he was usually portrayed as older and heavier, but Mark's version really works for me. I've often thought about their relationship and its roots and hoped to find out more, but sadly I heard Moffit say he had no plans to explore their past. I was very disappointed to hear him say that, it would be fascinating to know more about their childhood lives together.


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