BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012.


You are not logged in. Would you like to login or register?

A Study In Pink » Donovan, did she ever date Sherlock? » July 14, 2013 12:10 am

bohemia
Replies: 81

Go to post

^ Anyone who can manipulate their way through a police force like Sherlock has done IS a risk. It's made clear that his involvement is not official and regardless of how much of a genius he is, having access to the information he does have - and revelling in it, enjoying it - is unorthodox and potentially dangerous. And that's alarming and frustrating to someone like Sally, who I think takes pride in doing her job throughly and by the book (indiscretion with Anderson aside - I think she thinks she's kept those areas separate... if Sherlock hadn't announced it to everyone they would've 'got away with it').

I agree with Mnemosyne that an element of her bitterness comes from being manipulated by him in the past. Perhaps he took advantage of her naivety when she was more junior - he needed to work his way into the force; he won't have just strolled up to Lestrade and become best buddies. And that bitterness is compounded by the way he wipes the floor with them ALL intellectually - it undermines the entire police force, which makes most of the lesser ranks uncomfortable. None of the praise for solving a case comes their way - Lestrade gets a pat on the back from his seniors, but the rest just have to put up with Sherlock being unpleasant while they're trying to do their jobs. I think she's worked hard to get where she is, I think she's dedicated to her job, I think she likes her job and the way things are organised, and I think she's really pissed that someone like Sherlock is allowed to just flout it all AND be rude about it.

I know there's a lot of hate for her character, but I like her and they way she's written... I think she adds a lot to our understanding of the other characters (namely Sherlock & Lestrade but as has been mentioned, she's an interesting counterbalance to Molly).

But in answer to the thread title... I don't think Sherlock is above feigning romance for the sake of getting what he wants. He might have seemed interested in her, used her as a way t

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » Cabin pressure » July 11, 2013 8:10 pm

bohemia
Replies: 1182

Go to post

I only recently got my hands on Cabin Pressure.... oh my word, it's incredible!! I don't want to be disloyal to Ben but Roger Allam steals the show for me. My only problem is that I keep listening to episodes at the wrong time - either just before bed (so I'm wide awake from giggling so much) or in public places... I was leaving the hospital earlier today, and I'm walking through the corridors - surrounded by sick and injured people - and I burst out in uncontrollable raucous laughter. The stares I got... I think I was being judged, either as downright crazy or just highly lacking in compassion. Oops. It's just as bad when I listen on the tube and I'm sniggering through my commute....

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » Star Trek (spoilers - for those who've seen it already) » July 10, 2013 11:39 pm

bohemia
Replies: 381

Go to post

Eeeeeep. I forgot about this thread, and in the interim there have been so many really awesome points raised. It's all a bit much to respond to so I'm going to just sit on the sidelines and enjoy the conversation.

General Benedict Appreciation » Favourite Sherlock/Benedict pictures » July 10, 2013 11:31 pm

bohemia
Replies: 42700

Go to post

Happy Birthday, thread! I'm a newbie to your wonderful ways but I hope to see you celebrate the next anniversary too!

This is one of my joint favourites. The look in his eye does something very wobbly to various parts of my anatomy, not least my knees...

General Benedict Appreciation » Favourite Sherlock/Benedict pictures » July 8, 2013 11:11 pm

bohemia
Replies: 42700

Go to post

SusiGo wrote:

Wonderful pic. I don't know if I've ever seen it before. 

Then clearly I must introduce you to another from the same photoshoot...

General Benedict Appreciation » Favourite Sherlock/Benedict pictures » July 8, 2013 8:51 pm

bohemia
Replies: 42700

Go to post

As I was watching the filming earlier in the year at Barts, I got talking to one of the set paramedics. We chatted about a bunch of things but I couldn't resist fangirling a bit about Benedict, and he - completely unprompted - mentioned the Purple Shirt of Sex. By name. Ladies, it has become a star in its own right!

^ That anecdote was more relevant a page or so back.

And now I'll leave you with my favourite photo. (OK, joint favourite... joint favourite with about 30 others!)

UUUUUUUUNNNNNFFFFF. *dies*

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » Wreckers (2011) » June 17, 2013 11:55 am

bohemia
Replies: 58

Go to post

Compared with the idea that David killed him? Or that he's still lurking around in the background somewhere?

My take on it is that he must've left. Because David couldn't kill him, but he also can't live with him around. He's volatile and controlling and maybe even cruel on some levels, but ultimately their messed up childhood and shared experiences cement their bond. Underneath it all is a very strong love - Nick says it to Dawn... "he fucks you, but he loves me". And I think that's true, although he underestimates how much David WANTS to put it all behind him and how strongly he feels for Dawn. So those two things together, combined with the anguish and ruction Nick's presence causes, trumps the love he feels. 

I don't think he stayed living in his car/the barn... a) it's not sustainable; in a small village, he'll get spotted by someone at some point and Dawn will discover he's there. b) David realises that things have come crashing down around him since Nick's arrival. He knows the only way he can 'save' his marriage - or at least continue to play along with it - is to remove this source of ignition. 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » Wreckers (2011) » June 17, 2013 1:19 am

bohemia
Replies: 58

Go to post

Watching this film in the middle of the night wasn't the best idea.

I found it incredibly moving... very realistic and raw. The different issues and relationships were handled beautifully. To me, it felt almost like a documentary; it didn't gloss over the nitty gritty bits to keep the viewer comfortable, nor did it blow them out of proportion for entertainment.

My take on the paternity issue - David knows the child isn't his, but up until the scene where they meet the other couple, he thinks it's Nick's. I also think he encouraged Nick to leave once he'd discovered he was back - perhaps paid him to 'disappear' (and quickly, so Dawn doesn't realise) or rather, drove him away - probably by confirming that he 'hated' him. It's a very complex relationship between them, but I don't believe David hates Nick or vice versa... but Nick's presence starts to unravel the marriage and therefore threatens David's happiness, so he has to go.

This is probably my favourite of Benedict's performances to date, but probably because it hits me on a few personal levels.

General Benedict Appreciation » Favourite Sherlock/Benedict pictures » June 16, 2013 9:09 pm

bohemia
Replies: 42700

Go to post

I've just lost 2 hours of my life to this thread, and I've only gone back about 15 pages.

Benedict is going to be single-handedly responsible for me failing my degree. I hope he's willing to make amends ;)
 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » Star Trek (spoilers - for those who've seen it already) » June 16, 2013 6:52 pm

bohemia
Replies: 381

Go to post

I saw STID twice in the space of 12 hours on the weekend it was released over here... that's too long ago now! I'm desperate to see it again. 

I was born during the middle of the original film franchise, the daughter of a big Star Trek nerd. I stood no chance! By the time I hit primary school, when asked my favourite movie: "Star Trek IV. The one with the whales." (Clarification required for the uninitiated, you see.)

I've never lost that love of Star Trek, although I consider myself to be a big fan rather than a Trekkie (I feel there is a difference although how universally the two are distinguished I don't know), and I was very impressed with what JJ did with the 2009 reboot so I was really looking forward to this one.

Don't get me wrong - I DID enjoy it hugely, but I was also very disappointed. It lost a lot of the spirit of the originals, mostly on a moral level. There's no evidence that Khan was brought to trial or given a chance to defend his actions - he was just put to sleep again. What?! The plot holes were hard to miss.
It had SO much potential, but I feel that JJ & Co. did themselves a disservice by picking up Khan rather than having John Harrison as a new character. With as fine an actor as Benedict playing the villain, they could've created a new character with just as much depth and intrigue as Khan but a bit more originality. I also don't think they gave him enough back story - yes, plenty will be familiar with it from Montalban's portrayal, but if you're not, I think it might've felt a bit empty? The nods to The Wrath of Khan were entertaining but borderline cheesy, and Kirk being resurrected by Khan's blood was far too predictable; it made Kirk's death seem trivial and predictable too.

Carole Marcus.. again, so much potential wasted. She's an awesome character, at least in the original timeline. She's smart, sassy, doesn't take shit from Kirk. Here she's just eye-candy, contributes very little to the plot even though she's got a list of quali

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » Little Favour (short film) » June 16, 2013 6:50 pm

bohemia
Replies: 112

Go to post

Very interested to see how this turns out... obviously I'm interested because Benedict's in it, but I'm also intrigued to see how they portray PTSD in this film. The writer/director (Patrick Victor Monroe) is an ex-marine, I believe, so combat PTSD is probably a familiar topic for him.

As a someone who has suffered from PTSD, the portrayal of mental health issues in the media is of interest. So many contemporary films touch on these issues - or have them at their heart - but still do so merely as an interest point rather than an accurate depiction.  Silver Linings Playbook is the first that comes to mind... but I guess there's a line between education and entertainment and the media are obviously going to pitch toward one side.

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » Star Trek » June 16, 2013 6:37 pm

bohemia
Replies: 795

Go to post

Post better suited to the other thread I think...

Introductions Please... » Sherlocked, obviously. » June 16, 2013 6:05 pm

bohemia
Replies: 10

Go to post

Sherlock  -  It's quite a lovely place, isn't it? I like that there's so much history and prestige behind the hospital and that they've preserved so much of the old architecture. The whole area around West Smithfield/Barbican/Cheapside has a terrific historic (and what I term) 'authentic London' feel to it. With so many visits you probably already have, but if not check out the hospital museum, and/or the pathology museum. There is some really cool stuff to discover in both.

Introductions Please... » Sherlocked, obviously. » June 2, 2013 2:09 pm

bohemia
Replies: 10

Go to post

Thank you, guys!
I don't work at Barts, per se... sometimes I get a placement there so spend time in the hospital itself, otherwise it's just other educational activities based in the Robin Brook Centre (there's a photo that I adore of Benedict getting into a car after filming right in front of RBC) and the library, which are right next to the old pathology building where stuff is filmed. Most of time is spent at other hospitals associated with the medical school (which, confusingly is also referred to as Barts).

Mary Me - I'm about to make a travesty of Brits everywhere when I say.. I don't like tea. But thank you ;)

Marheri - Well... the weekend they were filming wasn't close to any exams or anything, so it wasn't essential that I needed to concentrate. I've been told that the production team were advised that they couldn't film in mid-July because there are 300 of us sitting exams in the building next door, which is good of them to consider. I'm sure it wouldn't bother most people but any Sherlockians would have a really hard time focusing!

Davina - why, thank you!

The Blind Banker » Noticed any mistakes? » June 2, 2013 2:01 pm

bohemia
Replies: 98

Go to post

^ Barts have a brilliant reputation, and they're a national centre for excellence in cancer. Glad to hear that your sister is OK.
Broomfield is one of the hospitals that has featured in the media due to less-than-wonderful standards of care. Really pleased you had a good experience Davina. Dog bite?! Yeesh, nasty!

The Reichenbach Fall » Why not Molly? » June 2, 2013 1:55 pm

bohemia
Replies: 53

Go to post

"Moriarty has no reason to assume that Mycroft is important to Sherlock."

Doesn't he? They're brothers... it's well known that they don't get along, but they have enough shared history that Mycroft's death would have an impact on Sherlock. And despite the idea that they don't get along, you can tell from the dynamic that it's sibling rivalry and reasonably superficial. Mycroft cares enough about Sherlock to keep tabs on him, and always Sherlock (begrudingly) helps Mycroft out when asked. I think that's a bond that runs very deep - for all their sniping at each other, they're family and they do care. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy, and they're certainly not apathetic toward each other.

I think Moriarty may have underestimated it, on the basis that Mycroft gave him information... but I just have this feeling that there's more to it than that. Moriarty is ridiculously calculating genius; he hasn't made a single mistake so far... everything that's happened has been part of a big plan and it's gone off without a hitch (except perhaps the phonecall by the pool, but even then, if he'd wanted them dead he could've had the sniper kill both Sherlock and John). What he learnt from that phone call was that he had ammunition to continue the game, so he let them live to continue playing.

Definitely agree that the homeless network are involved somehow. Not so sure that his previous clients could *prove* that he's not a fraud - the idea is that he orchestrated all the previous solved mysteries; if he paid 'Rich Brook' to be Moriarty then what's to say the others weren't paid or somehow rewarded for their co-operation? That's basically the whole premise of the story that Kitty is publishing, and it's too late to stop that happening now.

Goddamn Mofftiss. I simulatenously want to punch them, kiss them, and maybe toss them off the roof of a very high building...

The Reichenbach Fall » Why not Molly? » June 1, 2013 11:46 pm

bohemia
Replies: 53

Go to post

My bad... I missed that Sherlock was the first to suggest them. Just re-watched the scene... he's vague though. He just says 'everyone' in response to John and Mrs Hudson, and his answer to Lestrade is "three bullets, three gunmen, three victims". How does Moriary know which ones to target though?

Obviously the gunmen are then shown so Moriarty isn't bluffing... but neither of them mentions Molly or Mycroft. Sherlock has a motive for not mentioning either of them, i.e. one or both are involved in his plan, but Moriarty doesn't. Surely he'd realise that Mycroft (if not Molly as well) has at least as much value to Sherlock as Lestrade & Mrs H, maybe not equal to John. Argghh. I don't know.

The Reichenbach Fall » Why not Molly? » June 1, 2013 11:14 pm

bohemia
Replies: 53

Go to post

I don't think Moriarty expects Sherlock to die. To jump, or rather, find a way of appearing to.. yes. I think the game continues and Moriarty is hoping that Sherlock will find a way to evade death. He doesn't include Mycroft or Molly in the threat because he's giving Sherlock a chance; making it a fair game. He could've just rounded up all the people Sherlock cared about and held them at gunpoint until he jumped, but that would be too easy and boring. I think he left Molly (and Mycroft) out of it because they had the potential to change the game - neither Mrs Hudson, nor John, nor Lestrade could do much to help Sherlock outwit Moriarty, so their role is purely as pawns in the emotional blackmail. Moriarty doesn't this to be over...

The Blind Banker » Noticed any mistakes? » June 1, 2013 10:58 pm

bohemia
Replies: 98

Go to post

^ Was it as dodgy as its reputation? It's one of the hospitals Barts students train at, but I've never been placed there... just heard things...

Props, Locations and Technical Bits » Accuracy of details » June 1, 2013 4:46 pm

bohemia
Replies: 21

Go to post

I just mentioned this is the 'mistakes' thread for the episode, but it bugs me that they got the info on John's CV so wrong in TBB. I find the little details in shows fascinating - in another life I'd have loved to work on props and location scouting for TV and film. But for the CV, it's not like they had to source it and try and find something as close to accurate as possible - someone on the production team created it from scratch, completely customisable... and got it wrong. It just seems such a bummer when so much attention goes in to these things most of the time.

Board footera

 

Powered by Boardhost. Create a Free Forum