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| General Sherlock Discussion » Picture thread: Original quotes in a different context » March 3, 2014 9:18 pm |
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Even more often than Irene.
| Sherlock Games » Sherlock alphabet game » March 3, 2014 7:15 pm |
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My bank account data?
Things we will find in Mary's bedside drawer
Arsenic
Bridal shoes for any occasion...
Coins
Diet plan for brides-to-be
Enigma for corresponding with her bosses
French Perfume
Gunpowder
"How To Save Your Own Life" by Erica Jong
iPad
John's loveletters. Apparently not via e-mail.
Kleenex (the most normal thing in the world for sane people)
Lethal dose of strychnine
Major Sholto's belt - a reminiscence of her wedding day
Ninja Stars
'Otters on the Inside' Anatomy book on otters
Poison
Queen: A Night At The Opera (CD)
Red Panties
Sherlock's number
Tyre lever
U.S. dollars (in case she has to leave for an overseas job)
Verified passports of Vanuatu, Vatican City, Venezuela, Vietnam
Waitress dress (for some reason John has developed a preference for that)
X-Ray goggles
Your bank account access data on USB
Zip lock bag full of evidence about her past crimes
| General Sherlock Discussion » You know you spend too much time on this forum when.. » March 2, 2014 5:31 pm |
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This Is The Phantom Lady wrote:- When you, and I'm ashamed to admit this; forget the Michael Jackson forum you co-own and should be moderating... Yikes!
You moderate an MJ forum? Which one?
| Character Analysis » My thoughts about Mary (all episodes) » March 2, 2014 11:38 am |
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You mean, they'll show us Anderson's made up scenarios of Mary's death?
| Sherlock Games » Caption Competition Week 42 » March 1, 2014 9:24 pm |
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Janine: I wonder if Sherlock would notice if I pulled his chair away.
| Sherlock Games » Sherlock alphabet game » March 1, 2014 9:16 pm |
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Things we will find in Mary's bedside drawer
Arsenic
Bridal shoes for any occasion...
Coins
Diet plan for brides-to-be
Enigma for corresponding with her bosses
French Perfume
Gunpowder
"How To Save Your Own Life" by Erica Jong
iPad
John's loveletters. Apparently not via e-mail.
Kleenex (the most normal thing in the world for sane people)
Lethal dose of strychnine
Major Sholto's belt - a reminiscence of her wedding day
Ninja Stars
'Otters on the Inside' Anatomy book on otters
Poison
Queen: A Night At The Opera (CD)
Red Panties
Sherlock's number
Tyre lever
U.S. dollars (in case she has to leave for an overseas job)
Verified passports of Vanuatu, Vatican City, Venezuela, Vietnam
Waitress dress (for some reason John has developed a preference for that)
| Character Analysis » My thoughts about Mary (all episodes) » March 1, 2014 9:10 pm |
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Fillyjonk wrote:
I wouldn't want her to be on my enemies list.
No, but she could make a very useful addition to the "friends" list. As long as you can be sure she's not lying.
| Character Analysis » My thoughts about Mary (all episodes) » March 1, 2014 8:41 pm |
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SolarSystem wrote:
Found something on tumblr and didn't know where to put this, so I guess it can as well go in this thread. It's a short part of the scene back in 221B with Mary, John and Sherlock - without the background music. I think it's even more intense without the music...
That's great. I could have done without the music in that scene anyway.
I also agree with what Fillyjonk wrote. I hope we'll get a better explanation in S4, or at least a hint at some kind of justification that would make both Mary's and Sherlock's behaviour more understandable. I don't think it was just sloppy writing though. Not at such a crucial point, and not after all the surprises and the intentional misleading.
| Fan Fic » Dear German speaking people... » February 28, 2014 11:46 pm |
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It's always nice to learn new words.
Wirkungsäquivalenz. Never heard that before.
| Music » Eurovision Song Contest 2014 » February 28, 2014 8:42 pm |
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I hope he'll make it to the finale with the cake baking song, it's so cute!
| Character Analysis » My thoughts about Mary (all episodes) » February 28, 2014 7:35 pm |
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Normally the whole plot with Mary would make sense. She has to lie about her past and her identity and makes bad decisions out of fear. She doesn't trust John, Sherlock or anyone else enough to ask for help but tries to do everything on her own. That turns out to be a mistake. Sherlock makes more or less the same mistake by distancing himself from John and Mary and trying to deal with Magnussen alone. Then he and Mary get in each other's way. Later they make a decision to talk things out and trust each other, and in the end the case is solved. That would be a more or less logical plot. The only problem is why Sherlock forgave her so easily for shooting him, and even helped and supported her afterwards. That's the strange thing to me. It seems to make no sense and somehow throws a shadow on everything else.
| Fan Fic » Fanfics from forum members » February 27, 2014 9:00 pm |
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The story was very emotional and moving, Susi. I liked how you showed what may have been going on in Sherlock's mind. The interaction between the brothers was well written and would be very typical for them.
| It's Canon » Watson was a woman (a theory by Rex Stout) » February 25, 2014 8:23 pm |
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That was really very interesting to read.
And since Sherlock is actually a girl's name, the theory may not be too far off either.
| Character Analysis » My thoughts about Mary (all episodes) » February 25, 2014 5:36 pm |
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What Mary did in the bonfire scene is clever if you look at it from her point of view. I mean, she didn't need Sherlock to help her at all. Being a trained assassin, she could have done all that herself. But if she had taken a motorbike and dived into the flames to save John, it would have caused suspicion. Asking Sherlock for help is the best option - she knows he's about as clever as her, and he loves John, so Mary doesn't have to do anything; John will be in the best hands. Giving away that she was able to read the skip code was risky enough, but afterwards she could make up for that by playing the stupid helpless little girl with no idea what to do, so nobody suspected anything.
| Other » Free Rants » February 24, 2014 8:59 pm |
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Get well soon.
I have to get off my chest that the atmosphere in some parts of the forum gets to me. Since S3 aired the mood has changed in some way. Before that there was just more acceptance and no need to take sides. Now we have so many heated discussions that the tone is becoming rather aggressive in some threads, so that it makes you think "I wonder how many angry reactions I will get for this" when you post something. I'm very sensitive to things like that and it upsets me. On the other hand, I can be belligerent, and then I sometimes find myself being provocative on purpose to get a reaction out of people. The purpose of all this here is having fun, after all, but right now I'm often more or less annoyed or regret my own words. It would help if everybody (including myself of course) just calmed down a bit about a couple of things.
| Character Analysis » My thoughts about Mary (all episodes) » February 24, 2014 8:03 pm |
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Thanks for posting your thoughts, Susi, and trying to draw conclusions from the things we can see in the show instead of wild speculation about possible future or past events. I wish there was more of that actually.
One more point about that dialogue in the restaurant:
JOHN: Yes, I will. As you know, these last couple of years haven’t been easy for me; and meeting you ...
JOHN: Yeah, meeting you has been the best thing that could have possibly happened.
MARY: I agree.
JOHN: What?
MARY: I agree I’m the best thing that could have happened to you.
To me, on second thought, it sounds as if she actually meant "I agree, meeting you is the best thing that could have happened to me, too." But then she corrected herself and made a joke out of it, so John didn't start asking questions. Because otherwise it would have indicated that she went through similarly bad things in the past as he did, and that he was the one who gave hope to her, just like it was the other way around. And then John might have started to wonder what it could have been that happened to her.
| Character Analysis » Who loves who more? (As far as appearences go.) » February 24, 2014 6:57 pm |
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Fillyjonk wrote:
It's a great question. At the end of S3, I'd have to go with "Sherlock." He is helpless to defend himself now that he recognizes that he cares; he has undone himself. Willingly.
If we consider Redbeard and are expected to believe that Mycroft is referencing the first (and possibly last?) time Sherlock allowed himself to care deeply, then Sherlock has learned through hard experience that caring is not an advantage. But he has also seen that it's not a choice he gets to make - he cares for John (evidenced clearly in TGG) and that is a fact of his life now. It maybe took until the hiatus for him to realize how important John's presence is.
John, meanwhile, seems to never have stopped caring for people; caring for Sherlock is just an extension of his normal, everyday, neuroypical human experience. Losing Sherlock was incredibly painful, but didn't stop him from falling in love with Mary. I think John has a broader sense that he has loved in the past and will love in the future.
Sherlock though... I'm not sure he believes he'll ever have another friend if he loses John. And I think he might be right about that, given his life history. So, if John is his one true friend, then John must be infinitely precious. It seems to me that maybe having fewer loves means that the ones Sherlock does have are felt more keenly.I like this very much.
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I'm not quite sure if Redbeard was the only being Sherlock ever cared about. And Sherlock does have other friends now - Molly, Lestrade, Mary (okay, that's questionable), even Anderson, and a couple of others. He also gets along better with Mycroft. But John was the key to all that, he made it possible for Sherlock to realise that "friends protect people". I think if he ever loses John, Sherlock will stop believing that, and he'll go back to "alone protects me" (this partly happened in the beginning of HLV, as I saw it, and it wasn't good). He managed the hiatus without John, but always with the
| Sherlock Games » Caption Competition Week 41 » February 23, 2014 7:36 pm |
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That was a good one, Susi!
| His Last Vow » Mary saving Sherlock » February 23, 2014 7:29 pm |
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The thought that Mary could be just plain evil doesn't break my heart at all. It's just, the way I saw it, in the show they were trying to convince us that she's on the "good" side in the end, and I'm trying to think of alternative explanations that could justify this.
| His Last Vow » Mary saving Sherlock » February 23, 2014 6:23 pm |
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besleybean wrote:
Where on Earth do you get the idea he didn't want to live?
I explained that a couple of times already. But I did say it's a daring theory.
