Okay. Since now I wonder if we saw the same TAB, I give up until I can see it again .

Sorry if you guys have already discussed it, maybe ages ago, but I only thought about it after TAB.

Isn't his drugged problem solving mind, when we get sneak peeks into it, narrative and dramatic, with scenery and characters? Also in TSiB after Irene injects him, although it will get complicated once you get into what drugs were used where. But in THoB his mind palace works like a database, all orderly and ready for direct acess, and that is also how he seems to work in ASiP when axemining Jennifer's body... and so on.

So, the courtroom of TSoT, with its Mycroft and Irene and John and the suspect women? Not as elaborate as TAB, but still drugged?

Thank you all, and especially

Sherlock Holmes wrote:

This definition:1. superficially or garishly attractive2. insincere: meretricious praise.3. of, like, or relating to a prostitute

I think Sherlock meant it in the context of number 1. Superficial. It seemed interesting on the outside, but was in fact, very simple and obvious once they looked into it deeper.
 

See, I only knew the (literal, directly Latin-derived) sense 3. Now that you have quoted the other meanings I looked in the big Oxford, and it said, roughly, "1 of a harlot, 2 superficially or garishly attractive, especially of the style of a writer or painter." So yes, it must be as you say. Although I think it means he just doesn't like the painting! (And, to indulge in some unnecessary over-interpretation which goes well with the dialogue in the Vauxhall arches in the same episode: the painting is "insincere" in that does not do justice: to the actual night sky. )
 

Last year,

SusiGo wrote:

Just discovered something nice on tumblr. You all know the "meretricious" and "a happy new year" joke from TGG. But did you know the source? The gay writer and critic Gore Vidal (last paragraph).

http://www.salon.com/2014/05/22/how_one_sexy_gay_novel_derailed_gore_vidals_literary_career/

It IS fantastic to know, but I still don't get the joke, Vidal or no. I mean, I can see how they go from "meretricious" to "and a happy New Year" and yes, it is funny! Also that someone might think Vidal's work was meretricious. But WHY does Sherlock say it here? What does he mean? It means slutty, whorish; by extension, perhaps venal?

Oh, again, just talking to you people helps me think . Could you please check with me anyway somebody? English is not my first language.

So, it's not

John: Fantastic.
Sherlock: Meretricious,

it's

Sherlock: The picture's a fake ... meretricious.

Meaning, on the literal, pre-allusion level: it was forged for money. And just that? Meretricious is a weird way to say that.

Right, wrong? Help
 

"Again I see him, leaning back in one of the luxurious chairs with which his room was furnished. I see his indolent, athletic figure; his pale, sharp, clean-shaven features; his curly black hair; his strong, unscrupulous mouth. And again I feel the clear beam of his wonderful eye, cold and luminous as a star, shining into my brain—sifting the very secrets of my heart."

They eye cold and luminous as a star and shining into Bunny's brain, is already suggestive, but black curly hair? I'm only beginning to read E. W. Hornung's "The Amateur Cracksman", but it seems to be set as about the same time as Doyle's Sherlock Holmes texts, when men would generally have hair smoothed by pomade, no? So curly hair is memorable. Do you think that Raffles has influenced our Sherlock's look?

tykobrian wrote:

Also meta on:
What is up with the Moriarty storyline?
How might Sherlock and John’s relationship progress throughout the show?
How will Mofitsson incorporate Mary and John’s baby into the story?
What is in store for Mary?
What is in store for Mycroft?

Oh.
 

tykobrian wrote:

I have some meta recommendations that you might wanna check out:

The four arcs of Sherlock by [/url][url=http://archipelagoarchaea.tumblr.com/post/109465976878/the-four-arcs-of-sherlock]archipelagoarchaea, This deals with predicting the future of the show by analyzing the plot structure and character arcs of the show. Sounds a bit dry I know but once you figure them out you can get a better understanding of what’s going on. Really entertaining read.
 
Also meta on:
What is up with the Moriarty storyline?
How might Sherlock and John’s relationship progress throughout the show?
How will Mofitsson incorporate Mary and John’s baby into the story?
What is in store for Mary?
What is in store for Mycroft?

Happy reading! 

Not dry at all. It looks amazing, like good food for thought at the very least.
 

nakahara wrote:

Vena Cava by silentauror is very good post HLV fic:

http://archiveofourown.org/works/1185880?view_adult=true

 

Thanks. Shortish but too long for me to read tonight before bed. From the title and a quick glance, it will start with some of the ideas that I read in the wonderful meta at Firestorm over London... Great.

Hello. What fanfic, or meta, or speculation, or whatever could you share or recommend that is post HLV and respectful of the story so far and of the characters? It doesn't have to be all that well written in terms of style, it just has to make sense in terms of plot / characterization.

(In my private perfect world, it is more johnlocky than not and probably not all the way there, does not sweep Mary or her marriage to John under the carpet, does not just conveniently bomb Mary or her pregnancy out of existence, and does not play down Sherlock killing Magnussen. Honestly undecided on Moriarty being dead. Hopefully no babies although how THAT could be achieved without arbitrary bombs ex machina, I have no idea. Not quite decided on what's really there between Mary and Moriarty, or Mary her and Magnussen, or her and Sherlock for that matter, except that a polyamorous Mary-johnlock is out of the question for me.

Just to be clear, I'm not planning to steal anybody's ideas run away with them and write or anything. I'm just dying for some way, any way really to think this story on that is plausible and sarisfying. It's not exactly the same thing I would ask of the Sherlock team, whom I'd rather expect to write much more heartbreak and pain for the characters than I'm comfortable fantasizing about.

And no I can't think it up myself. The show so far is just the wrong shape for my mind to wrap around, the pieces don't fit (except I feel they should). So if you can point me towards some good ideas? They don't have to be what I said above, or that specific, or cover all those points. They could just be good strong plots / plot ideas to ponder, but ones which don't do violence to the characters and don't make their experiences so far irrelevant.)

What should I read?
 

Thank you all.

Lola Red wrote:

Hmmm, maybe Moriarty suddenly “disappeared” as far as the public is concerned. That might fuel theories that he is dead or just plainly in hiding. The confusion lets me belief that there was no body found on the roof of Bart’s

Yes that seems more likely. Still, Both the fangirl and Anderson think Moriarty was with Sherlock on the roof. Here is one convoluted idea how: from the texts Sherlock and Moriarty sent each other, which the police later found in Sherlock's phone. Which apparently didn't have explosives inside  . Any easier, more plausible way this piece of information could have gotten out and about?

My problem now is like this: doesn't John suffer so much largely because he feels guilty? He did say "you machine". Perhaps this is unnecessary, but it seemed to me that there was this extra level of hurt there: the notion that he pushed Sherlock, and that is the reason TRF feels SO hopeless and black.

But if John feels guilty in part for Sherlock's jump, then he can't know Moriarty was there (I think). So the police didn't tell him. So somebody, logically Anderson, actually leaked it to the Empty Hearse but not to John.

Please tear this apart because thanks to you people I actually feel I may finally understand this amazing show (again).

Something about all of this is very fishy…

Isn't it.