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Latest News » Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship' » January 17, 2017 10:03 pm

Yes, I think they get along well. That hug is cute.
I have never been in a film, but I've acted in theater myself and I know you need to be in a fluent/good relationship with the actors who are portraying the closest characters to yours, but they don't need to be your best friends.

The Final Problem » TFP- Favourite scenes (photos/gifs) » January 17, 2017 8:25 pm

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Ivy wrote:


Mycroft's face... And the parents' ones. They look so sad. 
 

Latest News » Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship' » January 17, 2017 8:23 pm

besleybean wrote:

In Amanda's piece we saw at the cinema, she really stresses what a family the whole team are...
Oh and it's ok, Nicole.
As long as the staff think it's ok, a designated thread is better.

It would be great to see that footage in the DVD, maybe. 

And that's what I think, ewige. Both Ben and Martin keep coming and they always talk the show up.
I hate when the press publishes this kind of articles.
 

Latest News » Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship' » January 17, 2017 8:14 pm

Oh, sorry, besleybean, I though I should post this on news about the show. I didn't know there was a Rants thread. 
And I agree with you.

Latest News » Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship' » January 17, 2017 8:04 pm

That is what Mirror and The Sun newspapers say.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/sherlock-end-because-benedict-cumberbatch-9635585
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2629818/sherlocks-benedict-cumberbatch-and-martin-freeman-cast-doubt-over-further-series-due-to-frosty-friendship/

I don't live in the UK and don't really know the accuracy of said newspapers, but I've heard they write sensationalist press and mustn't be taken into account. Though I don't really care about how Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman get along with each other in their free time and personal life, they always seemed very friendly to each other in interviews, extra footage... And I don't see the problem if the two main stars aren't exactly friends in real life, because they're very professional.

Why are these tabloids printing stuff like this?

The Final Problem » The Final Problem: First impressions » January 17, 2017 7:37 pm

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Sherlock is usually the target, but it wouldn't be the first time John is used by the bad guys to get to Sherlock (pressure point...)

The Final Problem » Questions about TFP » January 17, 2017 7:35 pm

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Kiara_Katsura wrote:

ewige wrote:

Kiara_Katsura wrote:

Again, totally not having anything to do with the current convo but

When looking back, his thumb was not bleeding when he pulled out the sword or when facing the clown, i still can't pinpoint the cause 

(i don't know why i'm so intrigued by this small occurrence xD)

I have noticed that too. However it's a dorsal scratch (it that the correct word? I mean it's not on the inside, fleshy side of the thumb but on its other side). I don't think Mycroft could cut himself on his sword like that. Maybe he caught his hand on the landing when running around.

Do you think it was on purpose, or do you think Mark legit hurt himself and no one noticed, and possibly when they did, they decided to leave it?

I noticed it as well! But only when he tried to use the gun, I think, I can't remember clearly. Please, someone ask him the next time he answers questions anywhere.

The Final Problem » The Final Problem: First impressions » January 17, 2017 7:30 pm

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ancientsgate wrote:

ewige wrote:

About it [221b] not being suitable - people make do! My place hadn't been good for children from the very first day but we got there eventually. Besides, they have a live-in babysitter. That's more than most working parents can say.

But surely you don't have people using a drone to deliver a hand grenade. Or bad guys coming in to take a loved one hostage, tie them up and point guns at them in the living room. Or refrigerated heads on a platter in the ice box. Or various fungi bubbling away on the stove. 221b is REALLY not good for most anyone, especially kids.

 

If the bad guys want to attack John, they could do it at any other place as well, not only at Baker Street. If we assume he kept the house he bought/rented with Mary, a drone could be sent there as well, since he's still solving crimes with Sherlock.

The Final Problem » TFP- Favourite scenes (photos/gifs) » January 17, 2017 7:19 pm

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Ivy wrote:


Wow, that's impossible to see for us colour-blind people.  Thanks for sharing.

I don't know how to quote two different comments... I wanted to say that I loved how Mycroft "volunteered" to be shot by Sherlock. Whether he ships Johnlock or not, he knows how badly losing a best friend affected Sherlock the last time. Mycroft made a lot of mistakes, but we can say he's a good big brother.

General Sherlock Discussion » The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only) » January 17, 2017 6:51 pm

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ewige wrote:

Thank you, Susi!

The more I think about the finale the better I understand that it was actually very pro JL, just not as much or as clever as I wanted it to be.
But then, maybe I've been spoiled by The Hug [/echo].

In case you don't know what I'm talking about:





Yep.

And parentlock was never ever a given but it is now:





And the JL discussion has been basically substituted by the discussion whether John and Rosie moved in with Sherlock or not because if they do, everybody (even Mary) knows what they will become. There is only one spare bedroom if John gives his old one to Rosie, after all. And we KNOW John moves back at some point! He is one of the Baker Street boys after all.

They're so cute together. I love those scenes.  I didn't need a kiss: the hug from TLD and these last shots are enough for me. And I think John and Rosie will move to 221B, of course. They show Lestrade and Molly coming to Baker Street, but John is always there.

The Final Problem » Hints of the Final Problem in previous episodes? » January 16, 2017 11:27 pm

ewige wrote:

NicoleCollard wrote:

We would have to rewatch T6T, because there were lots of times when Sherlock felt water around him.

 
This is very short term.
Moftiss were presenting the whole thing as tho it would have been obvious from the get go if ppl only observed. The only thing really consistent with this claim is Sherlock's development that's been the over reaching arc all along. The details of the plot of the last ep are barely to not at all connected with previous seasons.

Yes, I agree, that was my point. I don't see many more hints all along the seasons, just these strange visions blurred by water in T6T, but that was intended for 4th season clearly, not from the very beginning.

The Final Problem » Hints of the Final Problem in previous episodes? » January 16, 2017 11:17 pm

We would have to rewatch T6T, because there were lots of times when Sherlock felt water around him. But of course this whole Eurus thing was planed for 4th season, so they sent us some hints during the episode.

The Final Problem » The Final Problem: First impressions » January 16, 2017 10:06 pm

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Nearly 24 hours later, I'm stil quite shocked. As Rache said, I had an uneasy sleep yesterday night too. I felt mind-blowed, every image kept showing behind my eyelids and didn't allow me to sleep well. I still need a rewatch (I usually watch the episodes in English first, then dubbed into Spanish to fully understand every plot and then again in English with subtitles, to take in all the details). I'm afraid of watching it in Spanish, because I know I'm going to understand and see so many new things that will break my heart completely. I'm a bit like Sherlock and Mycroft here: I'm afraid of emotions. 

I understood this last episode as a metaphor (yes, metaphors and I). I think everthing they wrote is kind of real and mindpalace at the same time. It's real, because we haven't been said it isn't, but it's mindpalace because all the puzzles, riddles and decisions are so full of twists, memories, and faintings that the fight might very well be a mind thing (in the last Harry Potter, Harry asks Dumbledore whether a conversation they're keeping inside Harry's mind is real or not, and Dumbledore says mind conversations doesn't mean they aren't real). That room outside the Holmes' house, the whole plane thing... look pretty mindpalace as well as reality. So I want to see the episode as an allegory of what's happening inside the characters' hearts.

Regarding to Moriarty, it was nice to see him again. What a glorious entrance! 'I want to break free', haha. What a diva he is. However, I expected something else. I would like to think that the whole Moriarty thing isn't over yet, because I think Mofftiss cheated a little. When they orchestrated TAB, they showed us that people could sacrifice themselves for a cause. Poor Emelia Ricoletti used her death as a blow of effect, because she and her fellow fighters (women) had a strong idea to stand for. Then all the women kept disguising as brides to go on with the idea of

The Final Problem » Questions about TFP » January 16, 2017 7:21 pm

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I agree with the whole baby thing. She is always with friends, but, which friends? John doesn't have many friends, apart from Lestrade, Mrs. Hudson, Molly and Sherlock. And was it really necessary to add the little baby girl since she is a problem for storytelling? It would have worked better without her, I think.

And I think they bombed and destroyed 221B because the characters' world was falling to pieces. The end of an era. Now they rebuild the flat as they rebuild their lives. Kind of a beautiful metaphore.

The Final Problem » The Final Problem: First impressions » January 16, 2017 12:34 am

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I'll need a rewatch, as most of you are saying. As a non native English speaker, it's quite difficult to understand everything. I didn't get how John scaped from Eurus's shooting, for instance. So I still don't have an opinion. Well, yes, I do, but I'm not exactly happy with the episode, so I'll give it another opportunity to bewitch me. I agree with what most of you feel after watching it. Not everything was explained, Molly was treated as a punching bag (I'm not a Sherlollier, but I din't like that), there were some inconsistencies, everything was too blurry and fast... I don't know.

Of course, there where things I loved, like that Sherlock discovered that his true strengh are his heart and emotions, his relationship with John (I'm a bit of a Johnlocker, though a mild one), the way Mycroft and Sherlock get along and help each other during the episode, the rage attack Sherlock feels when he has to force Molly to say those fatal words, and Moriarty listening to Queen!

Anyway, I think I'm quite disappointed. I hope my rewatch will help me a little.

The Final Problem » Questions about TFP » January 16, 2017 12:05 am

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I've got plenty of questions, not only from TFP, actually. I thought everything would be explained if this episode was meant to be the last one. There are some things from the other episodes, even from the other seasons I don't understand.  

The Final Problem » So, this is the end?! » January 15, 2017 10:56 pm

You're so mature, my fellow Sherlockians. I can't cope right now with the end of Sherlock. I think there would be material for more episodes and good seasons. I just can't accept this is the end. It's like saying goodbye forever to a very good friend. 

The Final Problem » So, this is the end?! » January 15, 2017 10:38 pm

Oh, my God, I only want to cry rivers... Don't let be the end! What a wonderful show! But it sounded pretty final to me. 

The Lying Detective » How's John going to survive... » January 12, 2017 7:34 pm

besleybean wrote:

It's all a bit Gollum, isn't it?!

Hahaha. That would be funny. Martin Freeman being Bilbo all over again.

Series Four News » sherlock series 4 (spoilers inside) » January 12, 2017 6:47 pm

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It's a strange pic, because the one who is often in the middle of every photo is Sherlock. But this time, John is between the Holmes brothers. It seems to me that Mycroft is speaking about something Sherlock knows and John doesn't. The three of them aren't looking to one another's eyes. John listens carefully and thoughtfully. Interesting pic.

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