Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » Star Trek (spoilers - for those who've seen it already) » May 23, 2015 2:56 pm |
I'm re-watching Star Trek Into Darkness, this time with an eye out for Benedict's (too brief) appearances. The plot is still absolute crap (it might be getting worse every time I watch the film). But at least now I can spend the time marveling about how different Khan looks from Sherlock. How does Benedict do it? Absolutely awesome!
And seeing what the man is capable of - I think it's a real pity that Moftiss have decided to not use the canon-typical disguises in Sherlock. For as far as I remember ACD stressed that Sherlock became the new person on a much deeper level than just a change of clothes, and I'm sure Benedict Cumberbatch could do some wonderful transformations for us. Sniff...
His Last Vow » Why did they bring the gun to Appledore? » May 23, 2015 2:49 pm |
I agree that normally Magnussen would not reveal that everything was in his head - the vault-rumour must have come from somewhere, probably he started it. But now he has told John and Sherlock - one writes a blog, the other a website - so he would have to assume that word would get out eventually.
I'm pretty sure that the Blackmailer's Manual contains a big chapter on how to avoid being killed by making sure the damning information on the victim goes public if anything happens to the blackmailer. Saying "it's all in my head" seems to me the exactly wrong thing to do...
Character Analysis » Did Moftiss „assassinate“ Sherlock as a character? » May 23, 2015 2:41 pm |
Vhanja wrote:
Kittyhawk wrote:
Yesterday I finally listened to the HLV commentary and I agree with nakahara: Sherlock Holmes comes off much worse in the commentary than on screen. I would have wanted to say to Moftiss "Hey guys, are you aware that you are describing your hero here (or at least the high-functioning sociopath protagonist)? Why do you make him sound like one of the more despicable villains in tv history? Or, if you feel that way about him - why did you write him like this?"
I think HLV was meant to be a sharp contrast to TSoT. In the latter, Sherlock becomes almost fluffy. He is shown as loving, caring, warm, vulnerable and borderline soppy in public. It was bordering on becoming quite OOC. So they've stated that they made Sherlock very cynical and cold in HLV, to show that he was NOT just the fluffy bunny we saw in TSoT. Kind of an emotional whiplash for the audience, deliberately done by Moftiss.
First of all, my comment was about the commentary, where Moftiss are badmouthing Sherlock for quite a while (and they are not limiting themselves to "cynical and cold"!), not HLV itself. Yes, the fake relationship was a rather cold thing to do - but I doubt that Janine was duped all that easily (she had her doubts about Sherlock from TSOT) and both seem okay with each other in the hospital scene. Regarding CAM I agree with Mary (the scene where the commentators accuse Sherlock of being slow on the uptake...)
Secondly, I disagree that Sherlock comes across as "loving, caring, warm, vulnerable and borderline soppy in public" in TSOT. For me the speech shows that Sherlock really is a self-absorbed ... (insert favourite epiteth). Or is a best-man speech supposed to be about the best man? Just count the numbers of "I" or "me" in that speech. And remember him frightening off Mary's ex-boyfriend? I also think that most parents would not agree that showing pictures of maggot-eaten corpses to children is a "caring, warm" thing
His Last Vow » Janine and...transport » May 23, 2015 2:14 pm |
Criosdan wrote:
I laughed so hard at the Janine - thing. John's reaction was soooo wonderful.
And Janines visit in the hospital was great.
By the way: Am I strange when I would never have an engagement with anyone who wouldn't really have sex...
I'm 200% with you on all three points! I loved John's reaction - though it probably mirrored my own. Actually, I first thought that Janine was all over Sherlock just to wind John up. Because at the end of her dancing lesson in TSOT, when Janine says: "I wish you weren't..." - I practically can hear "gay" before she continues: "whatever it is you are." Even assuming Janine did not bite off "gay" (after all, she wasn't there at Angelo's in episode 1) - doesn't that "whatever" show that she has at least some doubts? And is disregarding Sherlock as a potential partner?
Then, as pointed out several times in this thread, Sherlock and Janine never seem to have had sex together (I find it a bit strange, by the way, that Sherlock lets Janine stay in his flat on her own. I think that points to a longer and, in some respects, intimate enough relationship) - shouldn't any woman's alarm bells start ringing at that? Yet Janine is willing to let Sherlock into Magnussen's highly private and secret office to propose (and really - wouldn't a "normal" guy choose a more romatic setting?) - which would most probably get her into all sorts or trouble with her boss??? Doesn't really make sense to me...
His Last Vow » Why did they bring the gun to Appledore? » May 23, 2015 1:26 pm |
If Sherlock decided in the "non-vault" to kill Magnussen - why did he wait until the police had their guns on him to actually do it? For me that shows decidedly suicidal tendencies (I mean, what were those guys doing? Shouldn't they have shot Sherlock before he pulled the trigger?) - and he knows it, which is why he's throwing the pistol away immediately and shouting at John "Stay away from me!"
I'm rather amazed at Magnussen, though - he practically invited all his victims to kill him when he said the blackmail material was only in his head (leaving aside the question of how viable blackmail without proof can be). I rather expected John to pull his gun in the little white room...
As for the original question, I agree with nakahara that Sherlock brought the gun (in my opinion illegal - I don't see how John could have a gun license) to threaten CAM if necessary. What I do not understand is why John and Sherlock were not searched before entering the helicopter or the house...
His Last Vow » Why is Janine not dead? » May 23, 2015 12:59 pm |
Willow wrote:
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The simplest explanation is that Mary was lying about her reasons for shooting Sherlock; ....
Did she even mention her reasons? For me it was very simple: Mary said "don't move or I'll shoot" (or something to that effect), Sherlock says "no, you won't" and begins to make a step towards her, Mary shoots. (Doesn't everybody know by now to not make any threatening gestures when somebody points a gun at you?)
Willow wrote:
... All cards and all keys will have an elaborate tracking system which enables them to be traced at all times; no-one, but no-one, can obtain copies or clones ....
Thanks for your explanation! Unfortunately, the more I learn about reality, the more fantastic Moftiss's creation becomes... According to what you write, Sherlock shouldn't really be able to use "his" key card either, should he? If he nicked it "yesterday" - wouldn't the employee have noticed in the meantime and raised the alarm? (What does happen when one loses a key card? Is there a way to somehow cancel the card at a distance?)
Willow wrote:
.....I love the straight-faced way in which they can dismiss someone climbing a skyscraper, managing to find a window which opens, and slithering through it as 'boring'. Impossible yes, boring no...
Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol showed us how interesting that can be - and that's probably how Mary did it. Only she got a functioning version of the gloves (which is why the climb was too boring to show). But that only ocurred to me just now (and I have difficulty believing it - though A.G.R.A being an old friend of Ethan Hawke's is not any more crazy than many other things here. Hmmm...), I've wondered ever since watching the episode for the first time how Mary could have found a way to get into CAM's office that Sherlock did not find - without M.I. stuff, it shouldn't be possible.
Willow wrote:
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His Last Vow » And another thing..... » May 23, 2015 11:18 am |
Regarding Sherlock leaving hospital I agree with Mrs. Wenceslas.
But there's another little detail in the episode (and lots of bigger issues, which I'll leave for now) that drives me crazy: Why does everybody call the tool John takes from his car a tyre iron? Or tyre lever?
As far as I know, tyre irons/levers are used for levering the tyre off the rim - which probably no car driver has done for decades (cyclists, on the other hand, have to do it much too often ). The tool in John's trousers is the one used to open the nuts on the wheel - I'm just not sure whether it would be called a wheel brace if it's in L-form. Is the term lug wrench used in England?
His Last Vow » Redbeard » May 23, 2015 10:52 am |
Going back to the dog: I really wondered for quite some time what Sherlock's childhood must have been like for him to become so attached to Redbeard - and so traumatized by the dog's death - that "Redbeard" comes up as one of CAM's "pressure points". Pets die, it's what they do, and im most cases much sooner than their owners. Having - and losing - pets is one of the ways children can learn to cope with death (hopefully before they lose their (grand)parents.). Of course, that requires the parents to not lie about the animals death... (didn't know about that bit before readint this thread).
As Sherlock's parents seem perfectly loving and "ordinary", I can't understand why they couldn't have explained to Sherlock that Redbeard is sick and suffering and would be better off going to Heaven. Of course, the Irish Setter in the mind palace scene does not at all look sick and suffering (but then, Sherlock wouldn't want to remember him that way).
Then a fan fiction writer (sorry, I forgot who) suggested that Redbeard could have tried to defend Sherlock by biting some bully and been put down for that reason. Now that would explain quite a lot of things: Firstly, how CAM knew about the incident (I can see the healidne: "Irish Setter Mauls Kid on Playground"). Secondly it's much easier to accept a sick animal being put down than a perfectly healthy one that was just a bit overenthousiastic doing its job. Thirdly, for this reason the parents lying about having the dog killed also seems more probable to me.
What do you think?
Character Analysis » Did Moftiss „assassinate“ Sherlock as a character? » May 23, 2015 10:11 am |
nakahara wrote:
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It doesn´t help that Moftiss too paint him with this brush, for example in their HLV commentary: horrible, cruel, vile, inhuman and cold, nasty, you should loath him, fascinatingly awful, terrible (did they try to create an encyclopedia of negative names for Sherlock? All those nasty epithets are used in less then 5 minutes of the commentary – I abhor to know what was in the rest of it.)
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Yesterday I finally listened to the HLV commentary and I agree with nakahara: Sherlock Holmes comes off much worse in the commentary than on screen. I would have wanted to say to Moftiss "Hey guys, are you aware that you are describing your hero here (or at least the high-functioning sociopath protagonist)? Why do you make him sound like one of the more despicable villains in tv history? Or, if you feel that way about him - why did you write him like this?"
The Sign of Three » John and Sherlock Drunk » May 10, 2015 12:27 pm |
SherlocklivesinOH wrote:
......what if those clients he had on the "stag party night" spread the word? ....
I never understood why Tessa even bothered to tell her story to two obviously drunk guys... Just like I don't understand why Sherlock didn't notice that his beer was spiked, or how Molly arrived at the same quantity of alkohol for John and Sherlock, why Sherlock needed her help in the first place (I would have thought he'd have experimented some in his university days - just in the interests of research, obviously), and why he didn' provide himself with a bit of a safety net by eating something beforehand...
And could someone please explain the attraction of binge drinking? For me one hangover was enough...
The Reichenbach Fall » Does The Empty Hearse ruin this episode? » May 5, 2015 10:31 am |
Given that Mofiss pick from the origiinal stories what they want and disregard the rest, I don't think there's any point in going back to ACD's text to help interpreting the tv episodes.
And it the episode it's clear enough (for me):
=10pt=10pt=11pt=10pt=11pt=10pt=11pt=10pt=11pt=10ptJIM (wearily exasperated): Oh, just kill yourself. It’s a lot less effort.
(Sherlock turns away, pacing distractedly.)
JIM: Go on. For me.
(He makes his voice into a high-pitched squeal for the next word.)
JIM: Pleeeeeease?
(In a sudden movement, Sherlock grabs him by the collar of his coat with both hands and spins him around so that Jim’s back is to the drop. He stares into his face and then shoves him back one step nearer the edge. Jim looks at him with interest as Sherlock’s breathing becomes shorter.)
SHERLOCK: You’re insane.
(Jim blinks.)
JIM: You’re just getting that now?
(Sherlock shoves him further back, now holding him over the edge. Jim whoops almost triumphantly and gazes back at him with no fear in his eyes, holding his hands out wide and committing himself to Sherlock’s grasp.)
JIM: Okay, let me give you a little extra incentive.
(Sherlock frowns. Jim’s voice becomes more savage.)
JIM: Your friends will die if you don’t.
(Fear begins to creep into Sherlock’s eyes.)
SHERLOCK: John.
JIM: Not just John. (In a whisper) Everyone.
SHERLOCK: Mrs Hudson.
JIM (in a whisper, with a delighted smile): Everyone.
SHERLOCK: Lestrade.
JIM: Three bullets; three gunmen; three victims. There’s no stopping them now.
(Furiously, Sherlock pulls Jim back upwards to safety. Jim stares into his face.)
JIM: Unless my people see you jump.
(Sherlock gazes past him, breathing heavily and appearing lost in horror. Jim shakes himself free of his grasp and smiles triumphantly.)
JIM: You can have me arrested; you can torture me; you can do anything you like with me; but nothing’s gonna prevent
The Reichenbach Fall » Does The Empty Hearse ruin this episode? » May 2, 2015 12:29 pm |
Unfortunately, very little makes sense... I'm convinced that Sherlock did NOT want Moriarty to commit suicide, for the same reasons as RavenMorganLeigh - Sherlock is too visibly horrified. I was thinking the idea was to arrest Moriarty and then get him to call the snipers off (and I'm not going to think about exactly how Sherlock would have done that...). But Lola Red has a point - the Lazarus plan wouldn't have made any sense whatsoever in that case.
Why did John have to stop Sherlock from explaining all 13 possibilities in TEH? We'd know so much more.... <g> I listened to the DVD commentary to TEH yesterday, and unless Mofiss are flat out lying, the third explanation is the correct one and we won't get another one.
I'll simply stop thinking about TRF, it's by far my least favourite episode.
Fan Fic » Help with finding relevant fanfics-thread » May 1, 2015 1:33 pm |
Would snorklepie's The Edinburgh Problem fit the bill? (
Has anybody written a story about Sherlock helping the fish & chips guy "put up some shelves" in the carpentry/DIY sense? I wonder how Sherlock and tools would combine...
The Empty Hearse » Mistakes? » May 1, 2015 1:21 pm |
I didn't see it that way because of the newspaper headlines - I don't think that Andersen would fantasize that level of detail and with that much command of German...
Schmiezi wrote:
The restaurant can have only one kind of St. Emilion on their menu. In that case it would be right to offer "the St.Emilion".
The St. Emilion implies that there's only one to choose from. Meaning when John is sitting in the restaurant, he could order "the St. Emilion". But when Mycroft, from the outside, talks about the restaurant's wine selection, he should say: "they have a few bottles of a 2000 St. Emilion", or, even better "of the 2000 Chateau Bellecombe" (just picked any one from the list of producers (
But I suppose Mofiss know as much about French wine as about the German legal system...
The Empty Hearse » Sherlock and Molly in The Empty Hearse » May 1, 2015 12:28 pm |
Yes, you are both right, Molly never says no. But she doesn't say yes either, not at the beginning of the scene ("Fancy some chips?" "O yes, I'm starving!"), not further on: "I had a lovely day. And yes, fish & chips would be nice..." would have been an option. Or as a last resort calling after Sherlock when he walks away...
The Reichenbach Fall » Does The Empty Hearse ruin this episode? » May 1, 2015 12:18 pm |
Thank you!
Of course, after claiming I'd never watch the episode again, I had to do so, paying more attention to the end: How can Sherlock not notice that Moriarty is armed (on the rooftop)? And why, for heaven's sake, does Moriarty shoot himself instead of Sherlock? It would have been easy enough to to and they were close enough to make it look like suicide (of course we wouldn't have gotten a season 3...)?
Btw, regarding Sherlock in court the "Casebook" (in a "newspaper article" )says: "...Mr Holmes then proceeded to lecture the prosecuting counsel about their jobs before, in response to a dressing down from the Judge, describing, in brutal detail, the Right Honourable gentlemen's bedroom habits and how they involved the clerk of the court, Mr. Lionel Forrester." Now that's so far beyond idiocy that I need to get my dictionary of synonyms...
The Empty Hearse » Sherlock and Molly in The Empty Hearse » April 30, 2015 11:15 am |
Then why did she suggest dinner in the first place?
The Empty Hearse » Mistakes? » April 30, 2015 11:14 am |
Reality check (i. e. I'm not worried about continuity or people's behaviour):
The first mistake is before the episode even starts, in the teaser "Many happy returns" (I finally got my series 3 special edition - don't order from Zoverstocks if you live in France and want to receive things quickly): There are no jury trials in Germany.
In The Empty Hearse: The restaurant can't have "the St. Emilion", only "a St. Emilion" - St. Emilion is an AOC (appelation d'origine contrôlé) which comprises hundreds of different wines.
Regarding animal fibres, tensile strength is rarely even mentioned (the individual fibre's strenght isn't important - twist and number of plies determine the yarn's strength). Important characteristics are diameter, crimp, staple length. But the easiest way to distinguish between alpaca and Icelandic sheep (once processed to yarn - nobody could confuse raw alpaca and Icelandic locks) would be to look at the fibre under a microscope - wool has clearly visible scales, alpaca is much smoother.
After all my nitpicking I also have to mention something the show got right: Next to firefighter's or Formula 1 pilot gear, a 100% wool coat is probably the best thing to wear when approaching a fire - wool does not burst into flames and it does not continue to burn once removed from a flame.
The Empty Hearse » Sherlock and Molly in The Empty Hearse » April 29, 2015 12:21 pm |
So why did she refuse dinner with Sherlock?
The Empty Hearse » Sherlock and Molly in The Empty Hearse » April 27, 2015 7:38 pm |
besleybean wrote:
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But she can't help being in love with him and I think she always will be.
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I think Molly fell out of love when she spent the day working with Sherlock. Otherwise, why would she have declined the dinner she originally suggested herself?
(Food is my personal "minimum wage" - I see getting fed after helping out for a day as my due, not the prelude to anything else. I'd only refuse a free meal if I seriously didn't want to spend another half-hour with the person... which might happen with a real-life Sherlock...)