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1 | Series Four Suggestions & Ideas » Mary's Death » August 21, 2014 7:03 pm |
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RavenMorganLeigh wrote:Beleive it or not, the idea that the part was specifically written to fit her into the show bothers me more, not less.
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Okay-- here's me taking a b-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-g leap: am I the only person who thinks that part of the reason for Mary possibly becoming a long-term, principal charcter (which is where it looks like it's going) might be about squashing Johnlock? Apparently AA was and is rather miffed about it.
"=14pxWhat Abbington doesn't particularly like is the tendency of some rabid fans -- as alluded to in the premiere episode -- who insist on concocting a romantic relationship where none exists; as, for example, between Sherlock and John. It's especially worrisome to her when they make pictures of it and put them on the Internet. "It's one where you have to be very careful what you say to them," she says. "You have to be very careful of how you broach that. You can't be too critical ... you have to pretend that it's not out there. But it's on the Internet for everybody to see. It's a phenomenon; it really is. "I've seen some particularly explicit paintings of Martin and Ben. Let's not say it's John and Sherlock; it's Martin and Ben, because you don't see Basil Rathbone and his Watson. I don't think it's about the characters; it becomes about the actors. "It's just out there for everyone to see, and at some point, my son is going to want to Google his dad. It's the sort of thing where, just because you can doesn't mean you should. I had a diary when I was that age, and I wrote everything in my diary. The fact that you can now put it on the Internet and get really cross about it when people make a comment on it, it just makes me think, that's interesting. [i]"Don't put it on the Internet, then, if you don't want somebody to comment on it. It's immediately accessible, and it's immediately public
| Series Four Suggestions & Ideas » Four things I would prefer NOT to see in series 4 » August 15, 2014 11:47 am |
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I loved Drunklock, too.
The whole stag night is one of my favorite things so far. But of course, I wouldn't want to see him drunk every episode.
Anyway, there aren't many things that I don't want to see. Everything that ultimately leads up to John and Sherlock sitting by the fire place in 221b and, preferably, being each other's most important persons in the world is fine by me.
Don't really mind what happens to anything or anyone else and how or why. I have faith that it will be an entertaining ride until the very last episode (in which the above mentioned is established). 
| Series Four News » New speculation about shooting and airing in 2015 » August 15, 2014 8:47 am |
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Has this been posted yet? I don't know if this is the right place. But apparently, Amanda knows how "it" (her death) is going to happen. Which is... interesting. I think.
| Character Analysis » John's religion? » February 2, 2014 7:45 am |
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I imagine John to be a little bit like my husband. He probably grew up with many religious traditions and today, he still likes these traditions, although he's not practicing anymore. In my headcanon he believes that something or someone is there - like a god - but he doesn't think about it a whole lot. But in desperate situations he talks to said something, like many people do. "Please, God, let me live."
| His Last Vow » Pressure Points » January 31, 2014 9:25 pm |
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gollivier wrote:
Is that the complete list? It seemed like there where several pages.
Isn't Molly on the list?!I think it was the same pressure points over and over again, thus making the list seem much longer.
| Series Four Suggestions & Ideas » 4 Things I Want from Sherlock Series 4 » January 22, 2014 11:48 am |
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1. More Lestrade and (at least) as much Molly and Mycroft as we got this season.
2. Lots of mystery and deduction and science.
3. A new villian, I don't care if he's connected to Moriarty or not, as long as it's not Moriarty himself.
4. A story arc regarding Mary and Baby Watson, resulting in John and Sherlock living together again (doesn't have to be series 4, just something that I'd like to see at some point in the future).
| Series Four Suggestions & Ideas » Mary's Death » January 22, 2014 11:25 am |
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I actually think it would be very interesting, although I have to admit that I can't see it working on the long run. But if anyone can do, it's Moffat and Gatiss.
| Series Three Reviews » Your Top Three Moments of Series Three » January 20, 2014 8:04 pm |
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Even if it was three moments of each episode, I would have a hard time picking, but three moments altogether? But I tried my best.
1 'Because you chose her' ... 'But she wasn't supposed to be like that'
I found the whole scene - plus the scene in the empty house (gosh, I love the empty house!) very, very heartbreaking and emotional.
2 Sherlock getting shot and Sherlock's Mind Palace.
Absolutely stunning! I could watch it again and again.
3 Sherlock and John being drunk.
This was just so much fun.
(4, 5, 6, 7, 8, ... the fake fall solutions, the scenes with Mycroft and Sherlock, Lestrade hugging Sherlock, the fireplace scene with John and Mary, 'I heard you', Archie, Sherlock laughing at John at the end of TEH, Sherlock slapping himself in TSOT, Sherlock hearing voices, Mrs. Hudson's background story, John being a BAMF, John being a doctor, ... Sorry, couldn't help myself!)
| His Last Vow » The other brother - my head just exploded » January 17, 2014 1:29 pm |
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Willow wrote:
This is not very helpful in tracking down a possible third Holmes son, unless by any chance he turns out to be Sherlock's identical twin, in which case we could get him to try the clothes on to see if they fitted
You solved it. The "other one" is an identical twin of Sherlock and is the one that jumped down St. Bart's. So he's already dead and we have the perfect fall solution.
| His Last Vow » Sherlock's Mind Palace » January 17, 2014 11:18 am |
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I don't know if it has been mentioned before. But all the places of Sherlock's mind palace were real places where he's been before, which means that he must have been to that creepy lock-down cell where Moriarty is, which made wonder, if he's not only been to the place but that he actually was a prisoner/patient there.
| Series Four Suggestions & Ideas » Moriarty theories » January 17, 2014 10:16 am |
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I think Moriarty is dead, but he recorded videos or something before his death and one his guys uses them to torment Sherlock. Maybe as a sort of scavanger hunt.
| His Last Vow » Mary » January 17, 2014 9:56 am |
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SusiGo wrote:
I agree with besleybean. I would prefer Sherlock and John on their own because IMO they are at the heart of the show as well as in Canon. But I am willing and happy to wait what they are going to do with Mary. Because this is Moftiss' own personal version of Sherlock Holmes and fans should respect that. As a writer I am always open for ideas and suggestions but I would be quite annoyed if people would start making requests and telling me to kill off someone just because the character does not fit in THEIR view of my story.
I agree as well.
I also want to clarify that whenever I write something about what "should" happen in series 4 or with Mary or any other character that's entirely wishful fanfiction-like writing in my head. I'm happy to go any way the writers decide to take. I trust them.
| His Last Vow » Mary » January 16, 2014 5:05 pm |
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Swanpride wrote:
As avid Arrow watcher, I can honestly say that a trio can be very enjoyable. As Grimm watcher I can say that adding new people to the "inner circle" so to speak can add to a show. As White Collar watcher I can admit that building a show around the relationship of two people does become problematic on the long run.
I honestly don't care if they make a trio, or an ensemble show, all of this can be very enjoyable, and as long as I get the deep friendship between sherlock and John, it is all fine.You're right.
I personally love all minor characters on "Sherlock" and I don't think that a trio can't be a good thing. But for me, the ideal thing with "Sherlock" will always be an ensemble show with the relationship of John and Sherlock in the middle. That's just something I enjoy very much. That doesn't mean that it has to be this way all the time, but in the end, in the very end of the show, I want John and Sherlock to be back an 221b sitting at the fire place and waiting for clients. That'll always be my "goal" when watching the show. That's why everything, that seems to lead away from this makes me kind of anxious. But not in a very serious way. I just like to talk about these things, freak out a little and enjoy the show just as it is.
| His Last Vow » Some thoughts about Sherlock and Mary » January 16, 2014 4:41 pm |
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Very interesting thoughts. Thanks!
I have to think about some before I can give a proper response.
| His Last Vow » Mary » January 16, 2014 4:37 pm |
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I can only speak for myself, but to me Mary is much more than Mrs. Hudson or Mycroft or Lestrade or Molly... She's much more present and she's much more important in their lives, mainly John's. Which is only natural, of course. I don't blame John and I don't blame Mary.
But for me, Mary is a very big and important character. Of course, you never know how they'll pull it off in series 4, but right now, she's not a minor character and not an addition. That's what it feels like to me and that's what's bothering me a little bit.
I still like her as a character and I'll be happy to keep her for a while, but I do think she makes them a trio.
| His Last Vow » Mary » January 16, 2014 1:45 pm |
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mrshouse wrote:
Hey, can we discuss about mary saying " oh god yes" when john asked her if mary watson was good enough a name for her?
Moftiss wants to destroy the mother of johnlock moments!Maybe it was unintentional and they just like that phrase, because it emphasises "Yes" so much. ... Or maybe it was intentional and they wanted to show that Mary wants to be with John as much as John wants to solve crimes.
Maybe both.
Anyway, I like that moment, because it telling us so much about her.
| His Last Vow » Mary » January 16, 2014 1:31 pm |
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I don't think she has any connection with Moriarty. That would be just too much, wouldn't it? The "What Mary really is and does and knows"-thing has been done. In an awesome way, if you ask me, btw. Her having a connection to Moriarty might be repetitive.
| Series Three Suggestions & Ideas » The "I love series 3" thread » January 16, 2014 1:28 pm |
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Swanpride wrote:
I think HLV is visually one of the most interesting episodes of the whole show. Not as inventive as ASIP was and not as unusual as the explanation scene in SIB, but fully of stunning shots.
And the scene when John and Sherlock sit down and Mary has to take the seat of the client? Goosebumbs!Me, too. I get goosebumbs just thinking about that.
| His Last Vow » Mary » January 16, 2014 1:22 pm |
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zeratul wrote:Hera wrote:
if Mary dies in childbirth
That would be so Star Wars...
Moriarty is actually Sherlock's father and Mary is his sister. It's crystal clear now.
| His Last Vow » Timeframes.... » January 16, 2014 1:15 pm |
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Swanpride wrote:
You just want her to die....
Well no, I don't, really. I just love drama for our boys.
Which is cruel, I know!
