Holaa!!
Welcome!! I did struggle those two years, you're a very lucky lady...lord...person.
Have fun!! ^-^

besleybean wrote:

They are perfect for each other, but they don't need sex with each other.

Yeah, adding to what I said previously (I can see there's love), it can be more... seNsual than seXual, if you get me...

They showed us her bright side and her dark side and none of them is neccesary a lie. But truth is, if you love someone, you don't shoot the friend he's been mourning for during the last two years.
And if you really "appreciate" someone, you reevaluate your choices before throwing a blind threat and shooting them. I think.

shezza wrote:

Yes but if she only had murdered child rapists and mafia bosses I suspect she wouldn't have been so opposed to John knowing the truth. 

This, too. Mary knows John. She knows he's killed for less (crazy cabbie anyone), for Sherlock's sake. She knows John would understand if she was some kind of vigilante. But she is not.

(Have in your mind that I did like her, a lot. I don't want her gone or hated, but as I see it, she was incredibly selfish and John dissapointed me, utterly.)

Marva wrote:

Amy, I've made a somewhat similar experience. I've been a johnlocker, but only in terms of fanfic etc. This is the first time I actually see it on screen. As I stated before somewhere: I would have bought it if Sherlock had confessed his (romantic) love at the airplane.

I would have, too. Totally. What for other people including me some time ago would have been weird and senseless; would have turned very plausible, even certainly beautiful. And painful, really painful, given that he was gonna leave forever.
I'm a romantic.

Swanpride wrote:

I am sure the assassins who took out Osama bin Laden would be happy to know that you consider them more reprehensible than someone who accidentally beats his wife to dead....

That's dogmatism. Someone who repeatedly beats his wife to death is committing murder with malice. Not to mention that Osama Bin Laden was a murderer sought in a legal system very different from mine, with a legal and judicial process that has nothing to do with it. Please, I beg you not to write things that can be misinterpreted, and get informed before doing so.

Deilenn wrote:

Ozma wrote:

Deilenn wrote:

How can anyone (ok, who isn't a Johnlocker) think Sherlock said that in a romantic way?? There's something like friendship, and they can love each other just as friends, and nothing more. 

 I am on the fence here, but I do think that the beauty of this show - and of being free to discuss it here- is that everybody sees it through different eyes and has different ideas which they are free to pursue. You don't have to like what doesn't work for you 
 

I know and I agree I still thought it was quite obvious that Sherlock's not confessing his love for John in this was some people think, haha ;]

The thing is, and I know I'm not the only one, that I wasn't a Johnlocker. I was open to the idea 'cause well, it could be. Many adaptations have a gay Sherlock, so yeah why not.
But I didn't see that "love" that others saw. John was happy dating girls and Sherlock had no interest in love whatsoever (except to put it in a test tube).
It's just NOW, this season over, that I begin to seriously consider the possibility. 'Cause it's there. You don't throw your life away, all that you've ever known, going to death itself for just a friend you'll never see again. I mean, you do not commit murder, you find another way. And even less being Sherlock Holmes, king of Confusing Inextricable Paths.
So yeah... that pretty sums it up xD I didn't see it then, but I can see it now.

Anyway as my signature says, an opinion is not valid just for being an opinion. You can't impose it (most of the time, I think there are exceptions), but you can question it.

Yeah, it was a few months. It's not enough. For starters, it is a too conditioned relfexion, it would even cause it null consent. John has been so hurt that he may be afraid of being alone. Mary is the mother of his child. She is all he has now, since he can no longer trust that Sherlock is not going to mess things and him up again. Mary is now a good person, or so it seems, but the fact is that there are many reasons to think that she may not be. For God sake that relationship is going to shake. Right now it's unhealthy: John almost had no choice, and I can't see where he's going to get his confidence on Mary back from... and when things settle down, and they're in the couch watching telly as the girl plays around and there's no suspense at all, then he will be able to fully consider if that's what he wants: not knowing.
I just think choosing as he did is just unhealthy, for him, for Mary and for the baby.

Hey there I wanted to say what I think about Mary and after reading the last two pages I NEED to, really. So the thing is, I loved her. Everything about her, she was flawless. I did notice (as everybody did I think) the "liar" label when she was being analized by Sherlock. I didn't care a lot, everybody lies.But then it comes the idea that she killed "innocent people", not only moved by values, but for a price too. So, a hired assassin. I really would think twice before judging someone who killed people in desperate situations, in self-defense or insurmountable fear. But for a prize, that's serious. I can't imagine how John came to the conclussion that he could live knowing that but unknowing everything else.

Not to mention that she shot Sherlock. She threatened first, and Sherlock trusted. The thing is, she had a choice. And she aimed the stomach. Yeah, dying from a bullet in the stomach is a slow process, but still deadly. If Sherlock had fallen forward? If the ambulance had not arrived? He died, in fact, and revived by his own will. I'm pissed. I think John should have read the USB, honestly. Not knowing what  your wife has made before leaves you wondering what she is capable of. Beautiful words he said, really, but I don't believe a thing.  And the thing is, I still like Mary... but I can't understand how they trust her, I just can't. Where's the logical behavior here?

I really hope they're not going to leave things like this. I still don't understand why she got pregnant (given that -Spoilers from the books!!- she dies in the books with no kid at all).

I want all of this THOROUGHLY REFLECTED by John Watson, not just a couple of days and a burnt USB.