thank you, i was unawre of this

They never really mentioned much about Moriarty... assuming no body had been found on the roof, or thta they are keeping his death secret from the public then that could be why.

However is it possible that Moriarty was working with Mycroft or indeed Sherlock, they like eachother because they amuse eachtother. The only thing I didn't understand was that if Sherlock hadn't anticipated Moriarty would kill himself he would have to make his getaway fooling Moriarty into believing Sherlock was dead (sherlock knew that Moriarty wanted him dead). the Theory given as much as I like it would mean Moriarty would be able to see Sherlock had faked his death.

The main thing I can think of it s that information about Moriarty has been left so that if the writers want to they can bring him back at a later date (after all it is fiction!) but like Moffat said, they cant fake death at eachother what if they met eacother in the street?! He is dead... they have lied to us before but it also sounds pretty conclusive that he is not coming back

What are your thought?

i watched TRF after TEH, and everything seems to fit nicely and make sense.... the only thing that got me was that Sherlock wasnt expecting Moriarty to fake his death, so if his LAZARUS plan was going to be used and Moriarty was still alive then he would have seen he faked it... Sherlock knew that Moriarty wanted him dead so he knew he was going to have to fake being dead... maybe if Moriarty hadnt killed himself Mycroft's sniper would intervene? or as weird as it may seem Mycroft may have been working with Moriarty to ensure Sherlock would still survive.

Lookingback at TRF everything seems to fit and I think it works really well, im satisfied with that theory even if it only included a few things from my theory! what confused me was Anderson's reaction and it left me thinking if it was the truth or not, if Anderson hadn't reacted th eway he did or if the scene wasnt put in with the train scene I would have fully believed it but they have cleverly left us all with tthat shaddow of doubt to keep us talking!!!

i think because of the way mofftiss writes we are expecting more, because we know they have left us without clues in the past, i really do hope the topic is brought up again in the series, but i think this time they really are leaving us uncertain.... thats the thing, they know how us fans work, i bet they are laughing away right now at the fact we think there will be more... i really hope there is though... like most people I am still not 100% if that theory is the one they are using as the 'real' one, but I dont see why they would have spent so long explaining it if it wasnt

Stayin Alive wrote:

I don't believe the 3rd theory one bit! First of all, if you look back at TRF, you will see that the sniper aiming at John observed John's reaction, became convinced and VOLUNTARILY packed up his gun and left. But my main contention is that Sherlock had no clue Moriarty would "shoot himself" therefore, his plan had to be fool proof in case Moriarty was watching him as he fell. Sherlock would have no idea where Moriarty's people are but he knew they would be watching, so his plan had to be angle-proof to a certain extent. I also believe that if the entire explaination is revealed, it would clearly show that Moriarty isn't dead, therefore, it has to be saved for a future season when they will bring Moriarty back. When that happens, they will show the necessary flashbacks. Bringing him back this soon would ruin the show. So they choose to distract us for this season and probably the next, with the "lesser" criminal class and save the big guy up for last...maybe when they plan on retiring the show (I hope not!).

i agree, although there were 13 possible soloutions, Sherlock did say that he never predicted Moriarty would fake his own death, eventhough looking back at it, it was quite obvious to him. However the other soloutions he exlained like the laundry van would also have allowed Moriarty to see that he was faking it, I suppose Sherlock's plan relied on Moriarty giving the code word to hold off his snipers and Mycroft or someone coming in to arrest Moriarty... I don't think we'll ever know! (hope we do find out though) what I didn't get was that if Moriarty was still alive half of Sherlock's soloutions possibly wouldn't work. I think Moffat and Gatiss have done this to cause this reaction, I bet they are loving all of this, it's what they wanted. But i really do hope Moriarty comes back... it won't be the same without him!

all that was mentioned was that Moriarty had to be stopped, then Martin interupts and tells him he wants to know why he had kept it a secret from him, he wasn't bothered about Moriarty,thereofre they never really got to that explanation. all they said about keeping it from John was that it was Mycroft's idea, so they never elaborated on that either

I don't see why they would spend about 10 minutes explaining a theory, if it wasn't the correct one? I don't think they will come back to it. I think the explanation is the truth, but he is not telling it to Anderson, but he could be tellling it to John on the train, but it jsut flashes to Anderson thinking the same thing. i know that idea is a bit too far, but i'm just waiting to enjoy the rest of the series (even if this will still be playing in the back of my mind, but I suppose thats what Moffat and Gatiss wanted) , and hope that they might bring the topic up again, if not then I'll assume it was the truth, and if they do bring it up again hopefully it will be explained in a clearer scenario or with a different explaination

sherlocked wrote:

Theory No 3 is a perfectly workable solution... but, besides having many holes, it's also the most boring one, at least IMO. Also Mofftiss kept saying, when we all speculated, that we were missing something, and no one had hit at the right solution. But the one, we were presented with yesterday was out there (with technical variations) right from the start. Has anyone noticed btw, that No 3 is simply the way, it was filmed? Keep the street clear with set people, let Sherlock jump on a huge pillow, throw a corpse or dummy down, so you can film the crash. Substitute the set workers with the homeless network and explain the missing pulse with the squash ball, and you have Theory No 3. Which could perfectly be, what Mofftis had in mind, when they conceived this, and when the avalange of theories flooded the net, they had to add a few ironical twists in order to keep everybody happy and guessing on forever. But, frankly, I expected, and still expect more from those brilliant writers. And, somehow I cannot believe, that they gave everything away in the first episode of the third season. At the moment I think, that ALL theories, which were presented so far, contain a kernel of the right solution, since each theory seem to explain something, but not everything. But then again, it's only evolving fiction. Maybe, they choose to cop out, because it just became to big to handle. In which case, we simply have to enjoy season 3 on it's own merit and forget the promises 'Reichenbach Fall' seemed to make. But I'm still hoping for a more satisfying explanation.

I agree, if the third theory is true I think Anderson's reaction is how the writers thought fans would react, they planned how he was going to survive before starting the second series and they didnt expect such a reaction from the Reichenbach fall, therefore Anderson's reaction could show how the writers thought everyone would react, if they hadn't left the clues in the Reichenbach fall, they couldn

each time I watch the bit with Sherlock explaining how he faked his death to Anderson the more I believe it. As Sherlock had blandly explained there were 13 possible ways of doing it, therefore he must have had every way set up and only at that last moment he would choose what method would work. with Moriarty supposedly killing himself Sherlock's options were limited and therefore he starts looking around to choose the best option. so it is possible that what he told Anderson is true (i dont know whether i believe its true because I wanted an answer or just because i dont think they will bring that subject up again in the series) he has already told us that he couldn't use the laundry truck so that is out of the picture and how many other ways can you jump off a roof and survive, they have used all the obvious clues in this theory and that is why I find i so believable, however there are other possibilites many others have not managed to find likewise with myself that could be more plausable and more clever than the one he gave Anderson.
The air bag seems too obvious, but i keep thinking back to the point moriarty told Sherlock on the roof... that's your weakness, you always want everything to be clever... this could hint that Sherlock's faked death is clever or that we all expect it to be clever and thats why we are doubting it... lets just say I am hoping that how Sherlock faked his death becomes more clear this series ( and also hoping that Moriarty  hasnt died either! it wont be the same without him ;) )

Sherlock Holmes wrote:

Oddly enough, I would have accepted this theory and been happy with it, had Anderson not expressed his disappointment. As soon as he said that, I instantly felt disappointed too....

exactly how I felt, I was watching it thinking really? because they had already told us two other ways that he 'could' have faked his death, but anderson's reaction confused me and it made me think if the explanation was real. i know its what the writers want and theyve down a brilliant job of getting us to question how he did it. My question now though is will we ever be certian of how Sherlock faked his death, if the case is that what he told Anderson is not true, then when else will they tell how he faked it and will they at all?