^ hmmm do you have pictures?

YES THE TEMERAIRE SERIES! I AM FREAKING OUT! sorry bout the caps but I am ...omg wow this is great news. Only one of the best dragon series of ALL time.

do NOT worry about repeating characters just because they are dragons. Comparing SMAUG to TEMERAIRRE is like comparing SHERLOCK to LITTLE CHARLES in AOC.  TWO entirely different beasts...yeah sorry about the pun.

Temeraire is educated and sophisticated...this is a dragon that has his meals cooked for him with sages and spices.  He will write and talk about philosophy.  This is a perfect role requiring an actor that can portray feelings in his voice as well as an acute intelligence while also gettting your badassery on! Temeraire is sleek, fast, and powerful but there is this intelligence that will challenge the status quo and make unpopular but ethical decisions. These books may be based on the Napoleanic war but they resonate on issues of today as good science fiction should.

Benedict would be perfect for this role! I hope they do a trilogy and I hope they definitely edit the script differently when they get to Lawrence and the treason.  Splitting up temeraire and lawrence was the lowlight of the series.

I'm torn too.  Martin is available in April!  and then Ben goes and signs up for this movie.  But it's an action movie and Ben will clearly get ripped and round off the tease that was Little Favour.  In the end though, I think to avoid a tie on my feelings Ben should just be Han Solo and Princess Leia's son in the upcoming Star Wars trilogy...get on that CumberKingdom! 
 

^ why portray Mary in a white wedding dress?  What purpose does this represent? What symbol? It's not the guise she put on to shoot Sherlock...she was all dressed in black. There is imagery here that can influence perception.  Do brides in England not wear white? Then why do they wear white?

Wikipedia

A white wedding is a traditional formal or semi-formal wedding originating in Britain.

"The term originates from the white colour of the wedding dress, which first became popular with Victorian era elites, after Queen Victoria wore a white lace dress at her wedding; however, the term now also encapsulates the entire Western wedding routine, especially in the Christian religious tradition, which generally includes a ceremony during which the marriage begins, followed by a reception....
Etiquette books then began to turn the practice into a tradition and the white gown soon became a popular symbol of status that also carried "a connotation of innocence and sexual purity."

So inference, Christian Brides wear white not just for traditional purposes but for what white represents...  Sherlock saw Mary in white shooting him. This to ME is represented by Sherlock's perception of Mary being innocent (please do not take this literally as there are MANY forms of innocence in the world)  I conclude the innocence is in the portrayal of Mary being wronged by CAM and that she is the one in need of assistance. 

An opinion that for some reason comes out as being wrong and many letting me know this. I didn't realize that opinions on interprations of subjective material  could be based in objective form.

A white wedding dress is often interpreted as innocence leaving even more interpretations of that symbol of Mary in the wedding dress holding up the gun.  Mary is innocent yet acting in a violent way toward Sherlock-a dichotemy of character that needs to be resolved by Sherlock. Why did he see her as innocent when she tried to kill him? She has a problem too? Something she is trying to fight off. So inference, Mary is a "good" person being forced to do a bad thing. 

Much like Sherlock killing CAM when you think about it. A good person doing a bad thing.

Did anyone else realize Sherlock's mistake when he went to the padded room to seek out Moriarty?  He was trying to go there to stop the pain. But Moriarty had a death wish.  Everything about Moriarty would feed Sherlock into giving up on life.  Moriarty's anesthetic for a boring life was a great death.  Luckily-John shows up or else we probably would have lost Sherlock-not from the wound, but because Sherlock may have been letting life slide away from him once John got married.

That scene with major Sholto at the wedding.  I think Sherlock has considered not going on...just a thought.

I think Sherlock respect's Mary's abilities. In the plot of the story regarding Mary trying to kill CAM. There are 4 options she can take when she has the gun pointed at CAM:

1. Mary can take out both CAM and Sherlock. Can't kill Sherlock without hurting John.
2. She can't just take out CAM- John becomes a suspect.
3. She can't hit CAM and let Sherlock walk free to tell John (giving more power to CAM over Sherlock, John, and Mary). CAM would see weakness and vulnerability in her inaction.

Please note it is the 4th option that allows Mary to almost distract CAM from thinking she can be used against SHERLOCK. That is why CAM is STILL MANEUVERING to get ahold of something over Mycroft.  Mary "Killing" Sherlock- breaks the chain of pressure points.

4th option-slide a bullet in right below the lung and call 911. CAM realizes just what kind of naughty girl she is-what she will do if pressed. i.e. kill even her husband's best friend.

As Sherlock says,"It was surgery" Not only in where Mary placed the bullet but how she broke a chain of pressure points.  Mary would just kill Sherlock if it meant John was going to be used-hence the attempted murder. She had to make it close so CAM would buy into this.  Mary is clever.

Now as for how this works for the trio of the relationship. You see how now Sherlock can forgive her. She in essence tried to remove John from being used to hurt Sherlock.  Sherlock recognizes her attempt and salutes it.


 

SolarSystem wrote:

anjaH_alias wrote:

SolarSystem wrote:

Oh anja... I think I must have read this four or five times now. This thread really got me thinking, and I have to admit that I have trouble to come up with a... solution to the 'problem' we are presented with in this scene (and afterwards). What Sherlock did... I still have huge problems to make up my mind about this. But what you just wrote... wow. You used the word tragedy, and I think I can relate to that. Sherlock suffers in that scene because John has to suffer... and it seems there really was no other way out, it just had to be.
Thanks for giving me something to think about, your words really moved me.

Was a pleasure - and, yes, it´s tragic imo. Sherlock is not an icecold murderer. And, one of my ifs: Imagine Mary had killed CAM, Sherlock came 10 minutes later - everything then had been like before in the relationships. The opposite happened, that´s the material of a classic greek tragedy - innocent guilt somehow.
But would the nicer solution really be better? Now it´s true and serious, not covered by a layer of lies and wrong life stories, and the protagonists have to deal with the situation. Hard to bear at the moment.

Very true. And even though the ending might appear as a happy ending - after all, Sherlock doesn't have to leave and returns straight away - I think it's anything but. I think there is a lot that will have to be dealt with and I sincerely hope that we will see it dealt with in Series 4.
It'll be interesting to see what this will do to Sherlock. After all, he ended up murdering CAM because he was wrong, because he missed something. He thought he'd find the vault - but he was wrong. Why was he wrong, why wasn't he able to deduce this? Emotions, sentiment? What was it that got in his way? Will we see a different Sherlck yet again in Series 4...?

What got in the way? Morphine.  The guy was

I keep going back and playing two very intense-emotionally touching scenes to me.The first is the  mind palace scene after Sherlock has been shot and the other is after CAM has been shot.  Symmetry in these two parts of the show can be telling.

I do not cry often when reacting to fiction.  However, watching Sherlock kneel after killing CAM was heartbreaking and so touching. A hero that isn't a hero. A brilliant man of competence that John calls out to for help during the "flicking" scene and two other times during that part of the show.  I think when you see Sherlock staring into the empty room that is when he realizes that the only way to beat CAM is by killing him (that is when I realized it) But I think Sherlock makes up his mind to kill CAM himself when CAM is flicking John Watson. 

As for perspective of the child crying-can't it be both? Sherlock feeling the weight of loss from his decision while also protecting those he loves. Mycroft viewing the boy who makes decisions with his heart-the same boy who chooses to believe that Redbeard has gone to live on a farm verses dealing with the loss of possibly his only childhood friend.

The chain of blackmail goes from Mary to John to Sherlock to Mycroft.  Sherlock-in the beginning- hints that Mycroft is already under CAM's thumb. Does Sherlock already know that he is used as a pressure point to Mycroft? 

Overall, even the writers hint that in the original canon-Watson was possibly covering for the true murderer of CAM-Sherlock Holmes himself. 

All I know is that Sherlock is soooooo human.  He exists at a level of us that no one would dare take a stand at.  It's almost as if this character is a hyperaware version of ourselves.  Afterall, how many of us have stood infront of a dragon and drawn the sword only to resheath the weapon to conform to what society expects of us.  Sherlock Holmes slays the dragon-when no one- not even his brother-was brave enough to do this.  Mycroft knows this-that it why he t

I believe that is what they call a hole in the script. Yes, I thought the same thing...