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The Sign of Three » Little Archie » January 8, 2014 2:37 pm

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gently, I first saw SiP in German and liked it a lot, but I fell in love with the show, like you, when I first watched the original version on dvd. Like you, I fell instantly in love with Benedict's voice. And you are right, the dynamics are totally different.

The Empty Hearse » The theory he told Anderson - The actual answer?? » January 8, 2014 2:30 pm

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Susi, there wasn't an 'official' statement from the BBC, but there was an article in the Sunday Times, where they quoted the BBC. And according to that quote, the fall won't be revisited in ep. 2 and 3, and theory No3 is it. So, my feeling is, this is over... unless they want to give us the Anderson treatment, lol! Which I doubt. There's a link to a transcription of this article in this thread.
I will put my theory in writing, anyway, just for the fun of it. Because I most certainly will stop thinking about theories after Sunday's airing. 

The Sign of Three » Little Archie » January 8, 2014 2:15 pm

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Hi Susi, yes, there aren't many Germans, I know, who follow Sherlock, and most of them wait for the German broadcast in spring, because they don't understand the rapid fire original dialog, which IS a challenge, especially without subtitles. I took refuge in some transcripts.
Whoever Archie may be, good, that you started a thread about him. Since I have two boys myself, with a taste for gory stuff, I thought he was excessively cute.

The Sign of Three » Little Archie » January 8, 2014 1:44 pm

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Do we have a huge German club here at Sherlock Holmes' great site, btw?

The Sign of Three » Little Archie » January 8, 2014 1:38 pm

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Nah,gently, Sherlock was rehabilitated. They would've cleared that up. And Archie has apparently strong nerves, with pictures of maggots and beheadings and all. But maybe the girl doens't want to be reminded, and that's why she isn't there. But Archie clearly seems to see Sherlock as his protector.
And Sherlock would be the coolest uncle ever...

The Sign of Three » Little Archie » January 8, 2014 1:35 pm

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Lol, Swanpride, do you think Sherlock looked for some extra income as a student? And there are hundreds of little Sherlocks out there?

The Sign of Three » Little Archie » January 8, 2014 1:31 pm

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Glad, that Susi started a thread about little Archie. I loved him, and I have an idea, who he might be: Anyone remember the little boy, who ticked so remarkably like Sherlock in TRF? The one, who get's abducted with his sister from school? Who planted all the clues? And Sherlock was instantly able to almost understand him blindly? Well, that might have been little Archie. Maybe, Sherlock and John struck up a friendship with him. Sherlock saved them, after all.
And Archie with his long dark locks looks remakably, like Sherlock might have looked as a kid, plus the striking eyes, of course.

The Empty Hearse » The theory he told Anderson - The actual answer?? » January 8, 2014 1:26 pm

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Sherli Bakerst., Wholock's quote is actually the correct one They said specifically, that the fall theories won't be revisited in ep 2 & 3. Three possibilities: They are not telling the truth, and this is misinformation, in order to give us the Anderson experience. That's, what I hope for. They are telling the truth and theory No 3 is all, we get. That's, what I fear and think most likely, to be honest.  Or the whole thing will be kept as ambiguous as ever, and we will have to wait until season 4. Now, THAT would be really mean, lol!
I for one will put down my very first theory in writing for the first and last time today, just for the heck of it. Those, who still like theories, may find it later today in 'TEH theory, how he did it' thread. All the others can safely skip it

The Empty Hearse » The theory he told Anderson - The actual answer?? » January 8, 2014 7:55 am

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I'm with Sherlie Baker: Since theory 3 is so disappointing for some of us, I will theorize and read other people's theories gladly until Sunday, when it may all be over. I'm certainly not going to continue for two more years, so I hope, the makers will spare us.And I will have to stop video sleuthing. I already started to do this with other material, which is only marginally Sherlock related. Thus, I proved beyond reasonable doubt, that in Peter Jackson's Hobbit, Thranduil, Orlando Bloom's, pardon, Legolas' father acquired a magic ring by fighting a dragon, who had swallowed one, and became dwarflike and gready for treasure, by wearing it too often, or alternatively, the prop guys have a regrettable taste for flashy elf jewellry lol! As a result I have the whole 'Tolkien as canon' community on my heals. But since when was Peter Jackson known for respecting cumbersome  handcuffing canons?
But I disgress. For those of you, who want to theorize a bit longer, I warmly recommend finalproblemtumblr.com's last entries. Especially her theory, of how the masked bank robbers connect with TRF, are amazing. Doesn't matter, if it turns out to be true. I never bought her theory, that Sherlock jumped into a laundry basket trolley, which is about 20 times smaller than the Big Blue Pillow, so that Sherlock's chance to hit it properly are reduced from 20% to about 1 %. But what she has to say about the bank robbers, and why they always knew, when the police came, and how all this connects neatly to TRF, and how things could get explained without it being clunky at all, is amazingly coherent and at least great fan fiction. Maybe, they should hire her for season 4. And until Sunday I will happily revert to my original crackpot theory, that Sherlock didn't really jump at all, and it was all a magic trick. For the smartest detective of all time, this always seemed to be the most prudent way to solve the conundrum of how to stay alive. He wanted to eliminate death as an outcome of the en

The Empty Hearse » The theory he told Anderson - The actual answer?? » January 8, 2014 12:08 am

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Wholocked, I'm extremely disappointed, too, but I have the sinking feeling, that was it. Though I read an article in the Telegraph the other day, where the BBC was accused of harbouring only lying leftist bastards, lol!

The Sign of Three » John's "new" arrival » January 7, 2014 6:28 pm

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Is anyone else worried about Sherlock's drug problem? In the canon story Sign of 4, Holmes muses about, what everybody got out of the case. And he says, that he always has his cocaine bottle. Didn't someone say, Sherlock winds up in hospital in the next episode?

The Empty Hearse » The theory he told Anderson - The actual answer?? » January 7, 2014 6:15 pm

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That's perfectly fine with me, Mary  . And let me tell you: if nothing more comes forward in the next episode, I won't busy myself any longer with the mysteries of TRF, either. Enough is enough.

The Empty Hearse » The theory he told Anderson - The actual answer?? » January 7, 2014 6:08 pm

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I beg to differ, Mary. Many of us feel, that theory No 3 isn't a very good explanation for many reasons. Has nothing to do with not meeting my own theories, btw. I wasn't even wrong in all points, lol! And, by keeping it vague, they opened up the possibilty to insert other theories. I'm going here by, what Mofftiss said themselves about theory 3 after the airing of TEH: 'It's a plausible one, but why would he tell Anderson?'. Why would they plant the seeds of doubt, if they wanted to make clear, that theory No 3 is the only correct one? So, since nothing can be proven one way or another, it really comes down to personal preferences. If you like theory No3, consider the case resolved, if not, feel free to reject it.

The Empty Hearse » The theory he told Anderson - The actual answer?? » January 7, 2014 5:48 pm

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Ha, ha, silverblaze, can't we just agree to disagree on that? I really like your argument concerning dramaturgy, but, as I wrote, my dramaturgy leads me down a different path. And occam's razor ( which IMO isn't a very good yardstick for this show ), would tell me, that this absurd jump into this ridiculously blue pillow can't be it, lol! Mofftiss had two years time to come up with something more plausible. I really think, we will never know... and that's, what they aimed at.

The Empty Hearse » The theory he told Anderson - The actual answer?? » January 7, 2014 5:08 pm

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ruthinks, that's a VERY good question, lol! They have at least placed SOME clues in the episodes. That's why we are all theorizing like mad . And they definitely encouraged us to look. The problem is, that sometimes it's very hard to tell, if some thing is a genuine clue, a decoy or just a mistake or continuity error on their side. It's fiction after all. Some of us, not all though, feel atm, that they placed many, many clues in TRF, and hardly resolved any. That's, why we are especially unsure right now, what is a clue, and what is just weird or a mistake. And you are right, some speculations are well over the top. And, as some of us said, the show is very clever, but maybe not as clever as we think it is. Which is our mistake, not theirs.

The Empty Hearse » The theory he told Anderson - The actual answer?? » January 7, 2014 3:34 pm

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Of course we can agree, that it was a flashforward . That doesn't say anything, though, about Sherlock planning to tell Anderson the truth...or not. That isn't proven one way or another, and very much open to interpretation, as the writers probably wanted it to be, IMO, especially, if I go with what Mofftiss had to say about that subject afterwards.
What I find interesting, is the theme of misling someone, which comes together in one moment: Sherlock, of course having misled everybody with his faked death, having misled John about the bomb, Anderson &Co having planted the skeleton. It would just fit, if Sherlock thinks now about misling Anderson... and starts to laugh about that at first, and not John. Only, when he looks the at John's face....
That's my interpretation of the dramaturgy, silverblaze's one is another possibility.

The Empty Hearse » The theory he told Anderson - The actual answer?? » January 7, 2014 3:12 pm

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Anjah, I'm bored, too: I made a postscriptum: He talks about the destruction of parliament. So, it's either a mistake or something else, like Sherlock simply planning this talk... We just can't know right now.

The Empty Hearse » The theory he told Anderson - The actual answer?? » January 7, 2014 3:05 pm

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I have to listen to the actual words again, too, but I think, he talks to Anderson about a plot to blow up parliament. And THAT detail Mycroft certainly didn't know. He's talking simply about a massive terror attack.
ps: He said, that the massive attack could've destroyed parliament.

The Empty Hearse » The theory he told Anderson - The actual answer?? » January 7, 2014 3:00 pm

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Yes, anjah, that is a good explanation; it just occured to me, too. I was under the impression, that it was a welcome home present for Sherlock.
#onelessquestion

The Empty Hearse » The theory he told Anderson - The actual answer?? » January 7, 2014 2:47 pm

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There's something else in the Anderson/Sherlock scene, which doesn't make sense: Sherlock seems to imply, that Anderson and his hearse club placed the skeleton in the wall, in order to intrigue him. But the skeleton was apparently found, before Anderson or anybody else, with the exception of Mycroft and his personel and coworkers, even knew about Sherlock's return: Mycroft is reading about it in the newspaper, while Sherlock gets a shave in Mycroft's club. Deduction: If this skeleton was a bait for Sherlock, someone else, who knew for some reason much earlier about Sherlock's survival and return to London, must've placed it in the wall. It never made sense to me, why Anderson should've done it. So, who placed it there, and whose skeleton was it? If a baddie placed it there, I think, it's a legit question. Another question is of course, how Sherlock could even think, Anderson was responsible for this. He must have asked, when the skeleton was found. But, hey, he was just getting used to be Sherlock Holmes again.
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