General Benedict Appreciation » Benedict talks about Sherlock fan fiction » January 12, 2014 3:17 am |
I admire both of their calm reaction to the Johnlock fanfic: unlike John in-universe, they're not freaked out...they don't feel the need to over-protest their heterosexuality.
Character Analysis » Moriarty; an in-depth analysis. » January 12, 2014 3:14 am |
In canon, Sherlock calls Moriarty "the Napoleon of crime" (the head of criminal syndicate devoted to breaking down the fabric of civilization" or something like that) but the reader never "meets" Moriarty. There are theories to the effect that he doesn't exist or that Holmes is having a paranoid delusion and Moriarty isn't really evil. But most adapatations use him as a recurring villain, a criminal mastermind, sometimes an international terrorist.
My complaint about the BBC-Sherlock's Moriarty? He spends too much time on just getting Sherlock. Particularly in Reichenbach, it seems like, even though he's involved in multiple crimes, his whole goal is just to get Sherlock.
When the villain is trying to hurt or steal from someone else, or is running a crime network, or wants to take over the world, or something, you feel like the hero is doing real good by stopping him (especially if there's a sacrifice involved, like in Reichenbach.)
When the villain's whole goal is to "get" the hero, you have to ask yourself, why root for one over the other? (In some ways, Sherlock could be almost as bad as Moriarty - and you almost feel like, this Sherlock could have invented a Moriarty, if there hadn't happened to be one, by coincidence. And the British government could be as bad as others.)
Sherlock does save his friends' lives - but they're in danger BECAUSE they're associated with him.
Character Analysis » Anderson in Many Happy Returns » January 12, 2014 3:05 am |
I always wonder if part of the reason Sherlock stays in hiding so long (both here, and in canon, where his reasons for running away don't really make sense) is to teach Scotland Yard a lesson: "See how you like it when you're out of your depth and you don't have me to help you!"
So, I like the idea that some of his detractors are coming around. (I always like it when the bullies, or those who ostracized someone, have to really eat crow and acknowledge that that person was awesome. I want there to be major public tributing of Sherlock on the part of those who previously didn't like him.)
But on the other hand, as a big Johnlock fan, I want John to be the biggest believer. Here, I'm not focusing on whether or not their relationship could be sexual...but in canon and most other adaptations, Watson is always Holmes' number-one fan.
And now Anderson is believing in Sherlock more than "his Watson." John seems to believe Sherlock was innocent, and really was a genius...but it's Anderson who deduces Sherlock may have survived the fall....and loses his job over it...which kind of implies he believes Sherlock capable of geater feats of genius than John does. Does that make sense?
In other adaptations, we don't get much sense that Watson ever really "moves on." In Jeremy Brett's version, he becomes a police surgeon...implying that he's trying to keep doing the work he did with Holmes.
The Reichenbach Fall » Shouldn't the "fraud" doubt begin and end here? » January 12, 2014 2:56 am |
BlinkULDHC wrote:
Sherlock was congratulated for the successful capture of Interpol's number one suspect, who had been on the loose for 30 years.
There can't be anyone (in the fictional universe or our universe) that believes that a 6 or 7-year old Sherlock began scheming with this guy in order to set up the ultimate pre-solved crime....3 decades later.
Good observation! I confess that I am frustrated with some characters (and especially John) for not suspecting that Sherlock's death could be faked.
I mean, from where John is standing it's as though Sherlock committed suicide because he either:
1) he was a fraud and he was found out OR
2) he couldn't live with the whole world thinking he was a fraud
And John has to know that either of those is more improbable than Sherlock faking his death. I mean, Sherlock would never care that much about ordinary people's opinions, would he?
Well, I think it would MATTER to him if he was thought a fraud, in that, it would mean no one would bring him cases and then he would always be bored. I even wonder if part of his motive for staying in hiding (in canon, too) is to teach his haters at Scotland Yard a lesson: "See how you like it when you have to solve cases without me!"
But he wouldn't care in the emotional sense that committing suicide would imply. Except about John. Were there any signs of John losing faith in him? John seemed fed up with Sherlock's apparent coldness (lack of emotion) at some point, but did he ever doubt that Sherlock's genius was genuine?
It's Canon » Which are the 'Johnlock' moments from Canon ? » January 12, 2014 2:47 am |
Never mind the quotes, that PICTURE is hugely suggestive. The picture ran with "The Illustrious Client" when the story was first published in Strand.
So it's somewhat canon. It is Holmes and Watson at the Turkish baths, but doesn't it look like they're just plain bed in together?
It's Canon » Which are the 'Johnlock' moments from Canon ? » January 12, 2014 2:42 am |
From SCAN: [Watson] slept at Baker Street that night. (And he's supposed to be married at this point.)
From Creeping Man:
The relations between us in those latter days were peculiar. He was a man of habits, narrow and concentrated habits, and I had become one of them. As an institution I was like the violin, the shag tobacco, the old black pipe, the index books, and others perhaps less excusable. When it was a case of active work and a comrade was needed upon whose nerve he could place some reliance, my role was obvious. But apart from this I had uses. I was a whetstone for his mind. I stimulated him. He liked to think aloud in my presence. His remarks could hardly be said to be made to me -- many of them would have been as appropriately addressed to his bedstead -- but none the less, having formed the habit, it had become in some way helpful that I should register and interject. If I irritated him by a certain methodical slowness in my mentality, that irritation served only to make his own flame-like intuitions and impressions flash up the more vividly and swiftly. Such was my humble role in our alliance.
First of all "other habits less excusble," could refer to their...private...relationship, given that it would have been ILLEGAL in their era.
And the reference to a "bedstead" (as opposed to hatstand, fireplace, or other household item) would seem to imply the conversation is taking place in the bedroom!
And Neksomuse says in Decoding the Subtext that the description of their communication sounds like a married couple.
And, from The Empty House: (when Watson is surprised at seeing the 'dummy' of Holmes)
Holmes: I trust age does not whither me, nor custom stale my infinite variety?
Translation: I hope you still find me attractive and fascinating.
General Sherlock Discussion » I REALIZE it's Probably Not Deliberate » January 12, 2014 2:35 am |
...but isn't there almost a messianic motif going here?
I am no expert on religious scripture, but I believe there are stories about Christ heeling cripples and raising other people from the dead?
- John's limp goes away.
- John refers to Sherlock saving him and bringing him back to life.
- I don't know much about Mary Magdalen, but wasn't she considered kind of...well, a fallen woman, to be polite? Sherlock saves a sex worker (Irene) who doesn't really deserve it after all she did.
- Sherlock covered in blood.
- the public turns against Sherlock right before his death
- note the position of Sherlock's arms before he jumps
- his supposed death saves other people (this was not really the case in canon)
- Sherlock saying in "Many Happy Returns" that he will come back
- Anderson and his group believing Sherlock will come back (but not everyone can believe, and somehow it makes me mad that Anderson now believes in Sherlock more than John does - John should be the big believer)
John's "don't be dead," and "stop being dead," lines made me wonder if he did suspect, on some level, that it was a ruse...or else he almost thinks Sherlock could rise from the dead...he says "one more miracle," which means that he considers other things Sherlock has done to be miracles.
Granted, much of this, particularly the "rise from the dead," is also from canon. I want to know how Sherlock faked it...but I would kind of like him NOT to tell everyone from Scotland Yard who hated him...let them wonder if it could be something divine or supernatural.
General Sherlock Discussion » You know you're obsessed with Sherlock when... » January 12, 2014 2:26 am |
When you're at your local Humane Society's adoption event, and see a cat that has been named John, and immediately think, "You need another one named Sherlock."
When you hear that a certain REAL person, accused of leaking classified information, has fled the country, and you immediately think he should fake his death, or you think of Sherlock, or Moriarty, or Irene.
Same when you hear about a certain British newspaper and their notorious-information-gathering methods.
When you hear songs about Christ rising from the dead and think of The Empty House or The Empty Hearse. (Or vice versa, the episodes remind you of the songs.)
Google, for example, "Last Night," by Karen Peck and New River.
When relationship songs like this one, "When and Where" by Confederate Railroad,
Anytime, anyplace, say the word and I'm on my way
I can tell it's her by the way the phone rings
When she calls I drop everything
Snaps her fingers, and I'm there
Hello, darling, [Sherlock] when and where?
...remind you of Johnlock (all of the "hers" would have to be changed to "him", of course). Same with breakup and lost-loved-one songs.
When a Facebook friend calls Bert and Ernie "the oldest gay couple on television," and you reply, "What about Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson?"
Somebody mentioned pets named Sherlock and Watson: my brother and sister-in-law just acquired a terrier mix and named it Watson. They wanted a "famous sidekick" name, (because dogs are faithful friends) and then they decided this guy was both smart and eager to please. (Watson is the quintessential faithful friend.) What's ironic is that the only Sherlock Holmes my brother follows is Elementary.
I think Sherlock and Watson work especially well for names for hounds.
It's Canon » Which are the 'Johnlock' moments from Canon ? » January 12, 2014 2:09 am |
I was just going to post a link to Decoding the Subtext!
However - please note that the blog was overhauled -
Nekosmuse dot com slash withlovesh is the more current version (I'm not allowed to post links yet.)
I hold Nekosmuse responsible for my Johnlock obsession.
In fact, my major complaint about the BBC Sherlock series is that there is far too much suggestion of both of them being attracted to other people. (Canonical evidence for Holmes being attracted to Irene Adler is weak to nonexistent...but for some reason EVERY adaptation and pastiche ships them.)
But at least, Moffit and Gattis do seem to understand the centrality of the Holmes-and-Watson relationship in the Sherlock Holmes legend.
The reason I am so eager to see S3 is to see the "reunion" - THAT is a major Johnlock moment in canon: WATSON ACTUALLY FAINTS (and wakes up in Holmes' arms). Jeremy Brett and his Watson played it out perfectly.
Introductions Please... » Hello from the Midwest-US » January 12, 2014 2:01 am |
As the username suggests, I'm in Ohio. As such, I have NOT seen Season 3 yet, and am registering here in anticipation of seeing it next weekend.
What I am most obsessive about is the relationship between Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson, and am glad to see that Moffit and Gattis understood canon well enough to make that central in the series.
I have had some issues with this series interjecting too many other people to ship each of them with.
"The Empty House" reunion scene is one of my favorite moments of canon.
You all do know that Watson faints when Holmes reveals himself, don't you? And that Jeremy Brett and Edward Hardwicke (Watson) played it out perfectly?