Is there any chance Jim might have survived?

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Posted by saturnR
April 10, 2013 9:18 am 		#1

We know Sherlock survived (or there wouldn't be a series 3); but is there any chance (no matter how small); that Jim also survived?

 
Posted by Davina
April 10, 2013 2:17 pm 		#2

No.

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Don't make people into heroes John. Heroes don't exist and if they did I wouldn't be one of them.
 
Posted by beekeeper
April 10, 2013 4:51 pm 		#3

Word of God says no

I'm not sure I wanted him to.  I'll be honest, there have been better Moriatys IMO. I really like the one in the Michael Kurland book and in the House of Silk. A villain, but a principled one.

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John Watson : "To be fair, that is quite a wide field"

The Hounds of Baskerville
 
Posted by anjaH_alias
April 10, 2013 8:28 pm 		#4

No.

 
Posted by tobeornot221b
April 10, 2013 8:35 pm 		#5

No - why would he? Finally, he won a Bafta.

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Posted by Mattlocked
April 10, 2013 8:37 pm 		#6

I love Andrew as Moriarty. So I'm hoping for a flashback or something.
But survived? Impossible.

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Posted by anjaH_alias
April 10, 2013 8:40 pm 		#7

Flashbacks will come, I am also nearly sure about that.

 
Posted by SusiGo
April 10, 2013 8:45 pm 		#8

Flashback(s) yes, but I'm sure he's dead. His killing himself to make Sherlock kill himself was in character. I don't think they'd resurrect both characters but will tackle other stories. There's so much material to draw from. 

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Posted by beekeeper
April 10, 2013 10:15 pm 		#9

Also there is the Moriaty thing that happens where every time there is a crime, its Moriaty. That gets kind of dull

He did die in the books when he was meant to , I don't think there's any suggestion, even in fanfic like Michael Kurland's books. that he survived.

I think I just didn't like the idea that he was an out of control psychopath, because at the end of the day I don't think someone like that would have gone as far as he did. I prefer the more restrained, more principled, versions of Moriaty.

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Sherlock Holmes "The question is, has she been working on something deadlier than a rabbit?"
John Watson : "To be fair, that is quite a wide field"

The Hounds of Baskerville
 
Posted by anjaH_alias
April 15, 2013 11:41 am 		#10

Spoiler! That´s a tumblr foto going around right now, I unfortunately read about that but till now I didn´t see it...

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Posted by Be
April 15, 2013 12:00 pm 		#11

myrarobles,
would you please delete the photo right now. There are people who don't want to see this picture. We want to keep the forum free from Spoilers.

 

 
Posted by Davina
April 15, 2013 1:59 pm 		#12

I have deleted the photo. Again please don't post spoilers everyone. If we want o see them we can go on Tumblr etc. 

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Don't make people into heroes John. Heroes don't exist and if they did I wouldn't be one of them.
 
Posted by Harriet
April 15, 2013 5:36 pm 		#13

I also saw it, and asked Boss to change the name of this thread so I don't stumble in here by accident.
Nice of her that she did it right away 

However, this picture could be a photomontage...

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Posted by Davina
April 15, 2013 5:39 pm 		#14

It could indeed. It may be better to post the link with a spoiler warning attached. That way I can avoid spoilers too but can still Moderate.

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Don't make people into heroes John. Heroes don't exist and if they did I wouldn't be one of them.
 
Posted by MysteriaSleuthbedder
April 15, 2013 6:48 pm 		#15

saturnR wrote:

We know Sherlock survived (or there wouldn't be a series 3); but is there any chance (no matter how small); that Jim also survived?

No, but I am banking on the flashback, just as Sherlock Holmes explains everything to Watson in the Canon, I imagine Sherlock will tell John how it all went down.

But I don't think we've seen the last Moriarty, either. (Jim is not Moriarty) The Moriarty brothers are just too big a part of the Canon and Sherlockiana to leave out. 

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Posted by MysteriaSleuthbedder
April 15, 2013 7:50 pm 		#16

UH-oh. 

Be warned.

Super-spoiler pics here from "The Empty Hearse" shoot.  But very on-topic.

 
Posted by Marheri
April 25, 2013 5:41 am 		#17

I don't think so. But I hope he will 'come back' in flashbacks or something. Andrew was amazing in this role, but  despite of all strange theories of which I heard about how Jim might have survived- IMHO he couldn't.

Science has not yet taught us if madness is or is not the sublimity of the intelligence.

 
 
Posted by Mary Me
April 25, 2013 5:47 am 		#18

No more Andrew Scott in a Westwood suit? 
I also don't think that he survived... but, but... nahhh please excuse me while I go cry in a corner and imagine his returning.

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"Falling is just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination."

"Sherlock Holmes is a great man, and I think one day—if we’re very very lucky—he might even be a good one."

"Would you like to-"
"-have dinner?"
"-solve crimes?"
"Oh"


 
Posted by Davina
April 25, 2013 9:31 am 		#19

May I join you please? 

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Don't make people into heroes John. Heroes don't exist and if they did I wouldn't be one of them.
 
Posted by Mary Me
April 25, 2013 9:38 am 		#20

Of course, here in the corner is enough room for us both... and others who would join us *sobs*

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"Falling is just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination."

"Sherlock Holmes is a great man, and I think one day—if we’re very very lucky—he might even be a good one."

"Would you like to-"
"-have dinner?"
"-solve crimes?"
"Oh"


 


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