BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012 / sherlock series 4 (spoilers inside)

**Posted by Pops** January 3, 2017 12:59 pm

ewige wrote:
A friend of mine has this crazy theory that Sherlock will have to kill Mycroft in order to save John.

Yes, I often see this theory around... And, if you piece together some shots of series 4 trailer, you can see Sherlock, John and Mycroft locked together in a room, Sherlock holding a gun and next shot you can see Mycroft behind him but no John... This is confusing me !!

**Posted by Pops** January 3, 2017 1:05 pm

Here are the pictures I'm talking about :

**Posted by besleybean** January 3, 2017 1:06 pm

No!

**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** January 3, 2017 1:15 pm

Even I have entertained that theory... but... but *cries*

**Posted by Liberty** January 3, 2017 1:21 pm

We talked about those before, and what puzzled me is that Mycroft looks higher up on the no-John one.

**Posted by Mothonthemantel** January 3, 2017 2:04 pm

I don't like that theory !
I think it's Sherlock struggling with love and logic. That's what John and Mycroft represent for Sherlock.

**Posted by Pops** January 3, 2017 2:09 pm

Could it possibly be a mind palace scene ?
As you say, a struggle between love (John) and logic (Mycroft) for a choice Sherlock has to make in real life ?

**Posted by ewige** January 3, 2017 2:14 pm

Mothonthemantel wrote:
I don't like that theory !
I think it's Sherlock struggling with love and logic. That's what John and Mycroft represent for Sherlock.

Yep, I like this theory better!

Doesn't have to be MP tho, looks just like a promo shot.

**Posted by besleybean** January 3, 2017 4:12 pm

I'm not so sure it's only promo...could be real.
Does he have to choose?

**Posted by Lola Red** January 3, 2017 4:21 pm

there was a strong element of Sherlock relying more and more on sentiment and intuition instead of cold hard facts. maybe he will have to chose between what his brain tells him and what his heart tells him

**Posted by besleybean** January 3, 2017 4:27 pm

I'm thinking more his heart will be ripped in two....
" I'll burn the heart out of you."

**Posted by Lis** January 3, 2017 4:30 pm

It does seem possible that he will have to make a choice and two of the song titles from the soundtrack could hint at that as well. I've put them in spoiler tags below.

The title "Who I Want To Be" from TLD and "Who You Really Are" from TFP could suggest he is struggling with the person wants to be and and who he actually is (or thinks he is). I really hope he doesn't have to make a literal choice between John and Mycroft!

Last edited by Lis (January 3, 2017 4:32 pm)

**Posted by SusiGo** January 3, 2017 4:46 pm

Here is the official BBC summary for The Final Problem. Since it is official I do not consider any part of it as a spoiler.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2017/03/sherlock

Last edited by SusiGo (January 3, 2017 4:46 pm)

**Posted by Lola Red** January 3, 2017 4:49 pm

oh, this is so exciting !

**Posted by nakahara** January 3, 2017 4:55 pm

And disturbing also... "someone has been playing a very long game indeed".... very ominous!

**Posted by besleybean** January 3, 2017 5:04 pm

I'm taking a pack of tissues to the cinema!

**Posted by Pops** January 3, 2017 5:07 pm

That sounds omnious !!
"long buried secrets", "someone has been playing a very long game indeed" : the third Holmes bent on revenge ? Moriarty's final plan ?
This is making me anxious...

@Lis : I can't help but notice the change between the two songs, from I to you... Change of perspective ?

Last edited by Pops (January 3, 2017 5:10 pm)

**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** January 3, 2017 5:09 pm

*gulps* that sounds unsettling.

And as the girls I watched TST with said "If this is the season starter... imagine how the season finale will go"

**Posted by Pops** January 3, 2017 5:12 pm

From everything I read, I cannot help but think that it will be the last episode ever... I mean, Moftiss must have planned an ending if they couldn't reunite everyone again for series 5...

**Posted by besleybean** January 3, 2017 5:17 pm

I certainly think it's at least going to appear as an end point, with just the possibility of carrying on in the future.