BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012 / sherlock series 4 (spoilers inside)

**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** December 23, 2016 8:39 am

I was sort of expecting it... but as I said I would have preferred to experience it myself.

I don't mind some spoilers but I'm weird and I don't like plot and character spoilers.

**Posted by Liberty** December 23, 2016 8:43 am

That's not weird! My son absolutely avoids spoilers, where as I generally don't mind too much - I would prefer not to know surprise twists, but otherwise it's fine. He doesn't want to know anything at all, and likes to see it fresh. I think we're all different in how we experience it.

I'm sorry about the Doctor Who one, though. That really was a major spoiler, if it's the one I'm thinking of.

**Posted by Schmiezi** December 23, 2016 8:45 am

It's perfectly all right, Phantom. I for one hate to be surprised by character death. I need some time to deal with it so I hope that if one of the Sherlock characters dies, I will know in advance.

**Posted by Vhanja** December 23, 2016 10:28 am

Oh, I just read something on Tumblr that I'm not sure if is that spoiler you guys are talking about or not. I could put it in a spoiler tag and ask one of you guys if it is - but if it isn't, I have just given you guys another spoiler.

These are trying times.

**Posted by Liberty** December 23, 2016 10:33 am

You could put it in spoiler tags, and I'll have a look and let you know if it's the same one or not! Or pm me, if you'd rather.

**Posted by Vhanja** December 23, 2016 10:38 am

Ok, I will put it in spoiler tags:

I read, seemed to be a snippit from an article, that we will see the Watson relationship "starting to crumble" after they had the baby.

**Posted by Liberty** December 23, 2016 10:39 am

Yes, that's the same one! (From the Amanda Abbington Telegraph interview).

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**Posted by Vhanja** December 23, 2016 10:40 am

Ah, thanks for clearing that up!

My reaction to that spoiler was

a huge grin that only became wider and wider as the thought sunk in, and now I am even more eager to watch the series!

And then my second thought was: Life imitate art or art imitating life.

Last edited by Vhanja (December 23, 2016 10:42 am)

**Posted by Vhanja** December 23, 2016 11:18 am

I agree with all your points, Lautrela.

**Posted by tonnaree** December 23, 2016 12:47 pm

Like a lot of you have said, I try to avoid major spoilers but don't mind stuff like what was in the Telegraph article.

However, I had a mild breakdown the other day and in desperation I GOOGLE "John Watson's secret" ! ! !
Nothing came up which is for the best but I can't believe I did that!

**Posted by Vhanja** December 23, 2016 1:20 pm

tonnaree wrote:
However, I had a mild breakdown the other day and in desperation I GOOGLE "John Watson's secret" ! ! !
Nothing came up which is for the best but I can't believe I did that!

The waiting will do that to any of us, dear. *gives another shock blanket*

Have you guys seen these quotes? No particular spoilers, just more interesting statements from Martin and Moftiss:

http://sherlocksbestfriend-john.tumblr.com/post/154847094146/whoever-or-whatever-the-cause-were-promised

http://sherlocksbestfriend-john.tumblr.com/post/154847070666/with-all-this-talk-of-sweeping-change-and

http://sherlocksbestfriend-john.tumblr.com/post/154847067501/if-you-were-to-put-him-in-a-psychiatrists-chair

So... the "elephant in the room" will be addressed. Will be very interesting to see what they mean by that.

Last edited by Vhanja (December 23, 2016 1:21 pm)

**Posted by tonnaree** December 23, 2016 1:45 pm

Lautrela wrote:
*facepalm at Vhanja's links* I want to print these very quotes and frame them on the wall !!!

I'd like to have them tattooed on my ass.

**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** December 23, 2016 3:01 pm

Epic tattoo idea; and those links did make me smile!

**Posted by kgreen20** December 23, 2016 3:48 pm

While it may well be that the Watsons' marriage will end up failing--I'm not ruling that possibility out--I still believe that Mary and the baby will die in the end. That's what happened to canon Mary, after all, and it's not canon that Dr. Watson should raise a child as a single father while solving crimes with Holmes; therefore, I don't believe that modern-day John will, either. That he will end up losing his whole family through death is my prediction.

**Posted by tonnaree** December 23, 2016 3:59 pm

Just saw some new pics from TST on tumblr. From the christening. Can't link to them from work but if anyone else would like to.

**Posted by Vhanja** December 23, 2016 4:08 pm

Only found this one:

**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** December 23, 2016 4:11 pm

They are from this video:

http://sherlocks-phantom-lady.tumblr.com/post/154851510927/pbstv-heres-the-cast-discussing-returning-to

**Posted by Vhanja** December 23, 2016 4:12 pm

Haha, you were quicker than me, I was just about to post it now.

**Posted by Lola Red** December 23, 2016 4:21 pm

about the spoiler

While I would like that solution in the series, as it would probably be the least traumatic solution to John's "bereavement" (that is, by the way, all the cannon ever says about the matter, the true fate of Mrs. Watson is never revealed), I could not find it in my heart to be happy about it, given the real-life mirror of it.

those quotes are very intriguing, I have a thousand theories firing in my head.

**Posted by ewige** December 23, 2016 5:45 pm

Lautrela wrote:
Also, from what I saw on tumblr, according to Russian sites:

Colin Morgan plays Sherrinford Holmes.
*Edit : Seems to be a fake information, my bad !

Looks like a fake. The original tweet they are showing does basically look legit but the BBC One logo is different (all christmassy) these days.