BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012 / sherlock series 4 (spoilers inside)

**Posted by besleybean** May 16, 2016 4:44 pm

All sounding good!

**Posted by sweetskates1** May 17, 2016 7:51 pm

I am done with my masters and binge watching Sherlock in between watching for updates on Setlock.

Life is so good.

Any thoughts or findings regarding the pictures of hospital directory signs floating around social media?

Originally, I thought that Baby Watson was ill or injured but others seem to think Sherlock is the patient. Thoughts?

**Posted by besleybean** May 17, 2016 7:52 pm

Could be both of them!

**Posted by sweetskates1** May 17, 2016 8:52 pm

Just switched over to the other thread regarding spoilers. You guys are so amazing! I am re-reading TDD now.

**Posted by Ivy** July 24, 2016 6:51 pm

Can we talk about it here

it's not setlock, so I thought this is a good thread for it.

I wonder if Smith is Marys real name. (not because Amanda is holding it)

Last edited by Ivy (July 24, 2016 6:52 pm)

**Posted by Ivy** July 24, 2016 6:59 pm

Lautrela wrote:
Smith ? I thought her initials were AGRA ?

didn't thought about it. Maybe another cover name?

**Posted by Vhanja** July 24, 2016 7:02 pm

Thatcher made me think about government. What if is meant to indiciate Sherlock having flashbacks? Perhaps he was in rehab or an insane asylum with those threatening nurses when he was young (and Thatcher was prime minister)? My first thought.

**Posted by Vhanja** July 24, 2016 7:05 pm

Oh, that's more probable than my thought.

**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** July 24, 2016 7:06 pm

Just because Mary is holding it, does that mean Smith refers to her?

John Smith/Jane Do...?

Thatcher reminds me of THoB... The password being Maggie... but maybe that's too far a reach.

**Posted by Ivy** July 24, 2016 7:14 pm

This Is The Phantom Lady wrote:
Just because Mary is holding it, does that mean Smith refers to her?

John Smith/Jane Do...?

Thatcher reminds me of THoB... The password being Maggie... but maybe that's too far a reach.

You mean Amanda? I wanted to write Mary as well at first. I said in my post above that it has nothing to do with Amanda holding it! That was somehow my first thought when someone mentioned the keywords before I found that photo. But like Lautrela said of course her initials are AGRA, so it doesn't matter anyway.

**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** July 24, 2016 7:16 pm

Lol, Freudian slip there.

**Posted by Liberty** July 24, 2016 7:33 pm

I thought of Maggie Thatcher too! First thing that sprung to mind. Maybe not the password, but ... I remember in the filming for the first episode people mentioning that the interior of the house looked like it came from the '70s. Thatcher came into power in 1979.

I'm guessing Smith is Culverton Smith (Toby Jones).

Sherrinford is maybe the other one. Brother? Sister?

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**Posted by Ivy** July 24, 2016 8:00 pm

Liberty wrote:
I thought of Maggie Thatcher too! First thing that sprung to mind. Maybe not the password, but ... I remember in the filming for the first episode people mentioning that the interior of the house looked like it came from the '70s. Thatcher came into power in 1979.

I'm guessing Smith is Culverton Smith (Toby Jones).

Sherrinford is maybe the other one. Brother? Sister?

That was my next thought that Smith might be the villian. But I have no idea about the canon, so that absolutely make sense.

And she was prime minister til 1990, so it would be during Sherlocks youth, were maybe the drug problems started. I googled Maggie Thatcher and drugs and found some links about a new drug policy.

**Posted by Liberty** July 24, 2016 8:14 pm

Yes, now that I think of it, I remember thinking that the exterior of the house didn't look like it was from the 70s. But then, that could fit with a mind palace/memory scene.

Sherrinford was one of Doyle's original names for Sherlock, I believe, so actually could be Sherlock himself. However, Baring-Gould used the name for another brother (the other one?).

And I think Toby Jones is confirmed as playing Culverton Smith.

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**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** July 24, 2016 8:18 pm

Ah yeah, I forgot Culverton's last name being Smith.

**Posted by nakahara** July 24, 2016 9:03 pm

Some pictures from the new trailer:

The third picture obviously isn´t Sherlock, IMHO: I bet we are looking at the prodigal Sherrinford, Holmes third brother and Sherlock´s twin.
We made theories that we would see Moriarty´s twin in time - but maybe we would see Sherlock´s?

**Posted by nakahara** July 24, 2016 9:05 pm

Shoot, Sherlock, shoot!

**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** July 24, 2016 9:07 pm

Such aggression!

And I agree, something seems 'off' about that third picture... and it's not just the tan

**Posted by Ivy** July 24, 2016 9:08 pm

**Posted by nakahara** July 24, 2016 9:11 pm

Heck, what did Mycroft do to earn Mrs. Hudson´s wrath?