Mrs.Wenceslas wrote:

I think you can save messages on sim card or phone machine.

That's correct. If she just used the same sim card all the messages would still be there.
And apart from that: was the camera phone really the phone that she used for everyday business?
I'd assume that she has a phone that she uses for calls and texts and another one where she keeps the secret information on. I don't think she ever used that camera phone for the messages she sent to Sherlock.

Hey
i have a few of questions,too
1) who sent Irene the photos from sherlock right before he went to buckingham palace?
2) when sherlock arrived at the plain neilson stood in front of him and said something like he'd get an      award if he shoot him ... What does that mean?

Thanks in advance! 

 

Mrs.Wenceslas wrote:

ok, I have a question: rewatched ASiB again (stopped counting for how many times) and there´s one thing I consider a mistake: when John meets Irene at Battersea, they talk about messages Irene sent to Sherlock. Irene reads these messages from her phone, but they should had been sent from her first phone, which has been in Sherlock´s hands since Christmas... so she couldn´t read them on her new phone? or am I wrong? maybe it´s already solved somewhere here

Irene Adler's camera-phone, which has the very distinctive goldwork, is not her regular mobile she uses to see Sherlock's pictures or send him flirtatious messages.  That phone she carries with her.  The camera-phone is kept locked up, except when she is going to be with a client of such interest that she wants to photograph or record them.

If you watch carefully, you'll see her phone close-up is much different from the camera-phone.

Last edited by MysteriaSleuthbedder (April 13, 2013 9:32 am)

It was Goldsmith's college.

Swanpride wrote:

I thought it's because Sherlock basically became a traitor when he revealed the meaning of the mail to Irene.

^This.  The CIA agents, while they are a**hole badguys, are really just trying to get the information back from Irene Adler so that the terrorists don't realize that the British and USA can decipher their code (which is what Mycroft's "Flight of the Dead" plan is depending on).  IE: When Sherlock deciphers it and gives it to Irene, she sends that information to Moriarty who then realizes what the British and US gov'ts have done and passes along that information to the terrorists.  Hence, when the CIA agent sees him, he says "They'd pin a medal on me if I did" because Sherlock has unwittingly helped the terrorists.

Note: I would LOVE to watch a British show that doesn't characterize Americans as gun-toting idiots, just like I would LOVE to watch an American show that doesn't character a British person as a bad guy simply because of his or her accent.

Last edited by sj4iy (August 14, 2013 10:23 pm)

Just bumping a very old thread. 

There seems to be a logical error in the Christmas scene. Sherlock gets Irene's text, walks to the mantelpiece, unwraps the phone, and instantly deduces she must be dead. And (immediately) afterwards he and Mycroft meet at the morgue where Sherlock identifies her alleged body. So she must have been "dead" when she sent the message to him. Of course she could have sent the text immediately before being murdered but then she had already sent the phone to his flat. So why does he not at once deduce that something is fishy? Am I missing something or is it just a plothole? 

For one thing I do not think they would have continued with the party after that. Sherlock was clearly not in the mood to celebrate. 
And another thing struck me - how did Irene know the present was on the mantelpiece? Did she put it there herself before the party? Did she just assume that this was where presents would go? Or were there cameras in the flat long before Sherlock realises in TRF? Just having a bit fun in speculating. 

You mean the video taken by Moriarty? I thought of that as well. It is still available on the blog (and really creepy). So if Moriarty went in there, anybody could have done this before. And Irene and Jim had a connection. 
 

Last edited by SusiGo (January 14, 2015 12:08 pm)

Ok, folks, I've watched this episode twice so far - and I still don't get it, well, not everything. Can anybody tell me what it is with this Flight of the Dead People?? What was the exact plan of the British/American government? Did they want to trick the terrorists by allowing them to put a bomb to the plane with only dead people? But how could the Government(s) know WHEN the terrorists would place the bomb - and in which plane?
Ok, this is my first questión, but I think there'll be some more ... This episode is one of the best (maybe THE best), but it is also a little hard to follow and to combine everything ...

Vhanja wrote:

kornmuhme wrote:

Ok, folks, I've watched this episode twice so far - and I still don't get it, well, not everything. Can anybody tell me what it is with this Flight of the Dead People?? What was the exact plan of the British/American government? Did they want to trick the terrorists by allowing them to put a bomb to the plane with only dead people? But how could the Government(s) know WHEN the terrorists would place the bomb - and in which plane?
Ok, this is my first questión, but I think there'll be some more ... This episode is one of the best (maybe THE best), but it is also a little hard to follow and to combine everything ...

The government had managed to get hold of the plans of the terrorists, the crypted mail. With this mail they knew exactly when and where the bomb would be placed. But removing the bomb or stopping the plane from going altogether would have alerted the terrorists to them knowing the plan. Instead they filled the plane with already dead people. Thus there would be bodies found at the crash site and the terrorists would have believed themselves to have succeeded, but no lives would have been lost.
 

 
The mail on Irene's phone? But I thought nobody had known that she was keeping this mail on her phone, and only Sherlock could decipher it. That means to me, that neither Mycroft nor anyone else from the governments knew anything about it. Where should they have found out about the terrorist's plans?