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April 26, 2012 6:44 pm  #1


Hänsel and Gretel - the names - pure chance!

I'm absolutely sure that this is a pure coincidence, yet I find it oddly fascinating:

"Hänsel and Gretel"

are led into danger by the witch.

The witch in a fairytale is "a good old-fashioned villain", which in this case is Moriarty. Obvious.

But the names!
"Hänsel" in German is short for "Johannes", Engl. "John".
"Gretel" in German is short for "Margarete", Engl. "Margaret". A short form of Margaret is "Molly".

Hmmm...just so you know! 


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April 27, 2012 7:04 am  #2


Re: Hänsel and Gretel - the names - pure chance!

Coincidence, but what a coincidence. Love everything about the use of the brothers Grimm tales in TRF. This was my childen's absolute favourite fairy tale when they were young, although it is so gruesome. I could never leave any of it out. They especially enjoyed the witch being pushed into the oven and burned!

'Nibble, nibble little mouse. Who's that nibbling at my house?'


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April 27, 2012 7:47 am  #3


Re: Hänsel and Gretel - the names - pure chance!

love those name coincidences!

and ooo, scary, pushing the witch into the oven.. they will
BURN the HEART out of her...    those fairy tales really
were grim.. 

 

April 27, 2012 12:34 pm  #4


Re: Hänsel and Gretel - the names - pure chance!

Not sure if it will be of interest to anyone but there is a long history of psychological studies of Fairy Tales. A good introduction can be found on:

www.answers.com/topic/psychology-and-fairy-tales


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April 27, 2012 1:25 pm  #5


Re: Hänsel and Gretel - the names - pure chance!

Davina wrote:

Coincidence, but what a coincidence. Love everything about the use of the brothers Grimm tales in TRF. This was my childen's absolute favourite fairy tale when they were young, although it is so gruesome. I could never leave any of it out. They especially enjoyed the witch being pushed into the oven and burned!

'Nibble, nibble little mouse. Who's that nibbling at my house?'

"Knusper-knusper Knäuschen,
wer knuspert an meinem Häuschen?"

Oh, I love those onomatopoeia!


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April 27, 2012 7:42 pm  #6


Re: Hänsel and Gretel - the names - pure chance!

Lautbilderisch. Is that correct?


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April 27, 2012 7:47 pm  #7


Re: Hänsel and Gretel - the names - pure chance!

"lautmalerisch"
Oh, Davina, you're not so bad...!


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April 28, 2012 12:34 am  #8


Re: Hänsel and Gretel - the names - pure chance!

jenosborn wrote:

and ooo, scary, pushing the witch into the oven.. they will
BURN the HEART out of her...

Did they actually say that? Is that where it comes from?!


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April 28, 2012 9:17 am  #9


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"john" is such a common name in either language. It is bound to happen.

Sherlock? You ever eat too much ginger? It'd burn the heart (and other parts) out of you.

Last edited by kazza474 (April 28, 2012 9:17 am)


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April 28, 2012 9:22 am  #10


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Maybe that's what Moriarty was planning all along - give Sherlock ginger! That was the final problem! That was the clue we all missed! (I'm joking of course)


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April 28, 2012 9:35 am  #11


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Yes well : I know that if he gave ME ginger I'd jump off a building!!!


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--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
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April 28, 2012 10:45 am  #12


Re: Hänsel and Gretel - the names - pure chance!

That's why Sherlock had tears in his eyes - it was the effect of the ginger!


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April 28, 2012 4:27 pm  #13


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Damn! Lautmalerisch! Knew it was something like painting/picture! Lol
Nothing wrong with ginger! Ask Benedict and Mark! Lol


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