Real or fake, it'll be fun to have a look, thanks!  We're kind of starved of new stuff at the moment.

Last edited by Liberty (September 5, 2017 5:02 pm)

The Panel should be good.

But then, presumably not used...

Here is a legit source of scripts http://www.bbc.co.uk/writersroom/scripts/sherlock

What I would like is to see some really early scripts, to see how the ideas developed with time.

The HLV script has clarification on John's feelings when Sherlock tries to get into the office by pretending to propose to Janine: he's thinking "oh, you b******d!"!  I remember us talking a lot about that expression and having different interpretations, whether John was heartbroken, or shocked, etc.  We could have done with those scripts back then!  I suppose it has all be resolved now, anyway, but still fun to get an idea of the original intentions (assuming, of course, that the scripts are real, and that the direction wasn't changed for the final one).

Have we seen the final scripts before?  I'm getting a sense of deja vu reading them, but my memory is terrible, and I don't know if we've just seen bits and pieces along the way or seen the whole script.  For instance the scene with Janine and Sherlock talking about the beehives is in the HLV script, and I'm sure I've read it before (even though it obviously wasn't in the final script!). 

"The other one" is replaced with "our sister", in this.  I suppose it would have been a fun revelation in HLV - probably better that they saved it for S4, though.

Last edited by Liberty (September 6, 2017 7:11 am)

I haven't checked the link yet, but are the scripts for S4? Would love to see what scene Mofftiss had originally intended that everyone hated in TFP (which was replaced with the Molly scene).

No, he did say something like that, about the pit and not climbing out. 

I agree, that last part is much better as it is.

It would be really interesting to know when the revisions were made.  As late as during filming, perhaps, sometimes?  Or earlier?  The TSOT one in particular as there are more changes.   What really surprised me about that was the speech ... Steven had talked so much about being interested in the best man's speech since childhood, so I had thought that would be the one part that he would have brought almost fully-formed.  And yet, it looks like that's a part that had a lot of changes between the original draft (assuming it's genuine!) and the final product.   I'd love to be able to ask why!  If it was because it was written earlier, perhaps, and then didn't work quite as well with the tone they were trying to achieve after TEH?

The more I look at them, the more convinced I am that the new ones - at least TRF and TSOT - are fakes.  If they're genuine - in my opinion only, of course - they prove that Steve Thompson is a truly dreadful writer.  The scene in TRF at Bart's when Sherlock's babbling on about how he loves his friends makes my teeth itch.  It's as if Thompson has never seen an episode nor listened to his bosses about the character of Sherlock.  It was always my understanding that Mofftiss rewrote parts of TRF - if this truly was an early draft, then it's not surprising in the least.

Ditto with TSOT - wasn't it established that Thompson was meant to write that episode alone but was struggling so much with the script that Moffat and Gatiss pitched in to help and that's why all three of their names appeared on the opening credits?  In particular, the bit where Mary's apparently enjoying Sherlock squirming about Sholto is hideous.  As for "Watters," well, excuse me while I throw up a little in my mouth.

I really hope these are fakes.  If they're not, and in light of how awful parts of them are, I'm starting to believe the speculation that Thompson has incriminating photos of Moffat and that's why Steven has to keep employing him!