Yes, I think Amanda exaggerated.  I'm a bit disappointed as I had all sorts of wild expectations! 

Love conquers all - definitely!  The last episode, in fact the last series, was all about love.  And love is part of the final puzzle. 

I don't remember the original quote about it being a fix-it - does anybody have a link?  I'm not sure, but one thing they did was go deeper into what made Sherlock - it's kind of a prequel.   And also they set it in the modern day, which was what ACD did at the time! 

The thing everybody missed - actually, disappointingly, I think it might be that "the other one" could be a sister, not a brother.  Except that we didn't miss that!   Also Amanda tweeted something about the "groundbreaking" aspect being Sian performing different roles (and again, we noticed!).   Not to knock Sian's masterful performance, of course, but the concept was a bit less that I expected.

None of these are really criticisms - the series was fantastic!  But I kind of wish they hadn't raised expectations about those aspects!

Agree Lib. I don't have the quote - but can remember they said they absolutely would not be doing it if they didn't think everyone else was getting it wrong or very similar.

nakahara wrote:

When Eurus and Sherlock meet during TLD, he feels drawn to her, they eat chips together, chat nicely, she even says he is kind....

.... so why does she jumps at him, knocking him to the ground and screams like a banshee in TFP? She could contain herself successfully before and now she is incapable to?

I suppose she needed to incapacitate him for her games later.

But yes, I feel cheated out of those lovely, lovely TLD scenes with Sherlock and the sweet lady in red...

Liberty wrote:

TInstead, he still needed the clue about the no one/Nemo clue (which Eurus really emphasises) to point him the right direction.

Nemo is in Latin and demands that you know that language...
Even if Sherlock could read as six-years old, would he know such Latin terms already?
 

Yes what a hugely puzzling puzzle. Drowned Redbeard in the well !

Was it a secret hidden covered over for decades well ?

It is one of the first things you check for on the maps.

ewige wrote:

Yeah, that's sort of odd. There must have been a rescue mission of sorts, surely? After a child went missing? And an old well would have been searched right away...

Yeah, that's the one thing that irks me as well.
I was thinking of an explanation like maybe Eurus was able to hide the boy somewhere else until the well had been searched and drowned him later. Didn't Mycroft said something about that Eurus later refered to Redbeard as the 'Drowned Redbeard'? I mean, she wanted Sherlock to figure out her riddle and then she was willing to tell were Redbeard was. But on the other side, could a five year old do that?
 

ewige wrote:

besleybean wrote:

I think they are fully expecting not to go into a S 5.
But they've allowed for the possibility.
Setting up the scenario where the boys would just carry on solving crimes together.

I agree they don't count on S5.
What would be so special about them solving crimes together? It's been done over and over again. Sherlock's and John's growth as characters was what was so interesting about this version. Since they have been now declared all grown up, I honestly don't see much left to do there.

I do!

First, it's clear from the way that TLD was presented that John still has his own issues.  (I don't believe that it's simply his grief over Rosie's death or even simply his mistaken belief that Sherlock was responsible for her death that caused him to become so violent toward him.)  Sherlock and Mycroft have more or less resolved their issues, but John has not.  Another season is needed so that John can resolve his.  Check this article out, and you'll see what I'm talking about:

http://esterbrook.tumblr.com/post/104562523718/something-has-been-niggling-at-the-back-of-my-mind

Second, Sherlock has accepted John (and probably Rosie) as family, but Mycroft, to my knowledge, has not.  I think it's time that Mycroft and the elder Holmeses did the same.  (Both of these things would make for great further character development before the show ends for good.)

Third, it's canon that Mary dies--I was expecting her death for that reason--but it is not canon that Dr. Watson raises a child as a single father.  To return to canon, something is going to have to be done with Rosie.  Since nothing was done with her in Season 4, a Season 5 will have to be produced for that to take place.

And last--Sherlock has been in the hospital twice, fighting for his life, but John has not.  I think it should be his turn to do the same! =)


 

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kgreen20 wrote:

I do!

First, it's clear from the way that TLD was presented that John still has his own issues.  (I don't believe that it's simply his grief over Rosie's death or even simply his mistaken belief that Sherlock was responsible for her death that caused him to become so violent toward him.)  Sherlock and Mycroft have more or less resolved their issues, but John has not.  Another season is needed so that John can resolve his.  Check this article out, and you'll see what I'm talking about:

http://esterbrook.tumblr.com/post/104562523718/something-has-been-niggling-at-the-back-of-my-mind

Second, Sherlock has accepted John (and probably Rosie) as family, but Mycroft, to my knowledge, has not.  I think it's time that Mycroft and the elder Holmeses did the same.  Both of these things would make for great further character development before the show ends for good.

Third, it's canon that Mary dies--I was expecting her death for that reason--but it is not canon that Dr. Watson raises a child as a single father.  To return to canon, something is going to have to be done with Rosie.  Since nothing was done with her in Season 4, a Season 5 will have to be produced for that to take place.

And last--Sherlock has been in the hospital twice, fighting for his life, but John has not.  I think it should be his turn to do the same! =)


 

As Martin says, the show's called "Sherlock" and not "John". Sherlock has completed his development. Game over.
I'm not saying I wouldn't be interested in the things you mention. I'm just saying they won't justify an extra season of "Sherlock".

Schmiezi wrote:

Johnlock would.

Well, yes. But they have literally dangled the three Garridebs. I think the moment is gone.