TheOtherOne wrote:

Based on how Eurus is depicted in TFP, it is not feasible for her to have role played the other three characters in TST and TLD (bus lady, therapist and Faith Smith).

In TFP, it is clear that she is someone who has no empathy or emotions. Throughout her locked room puzzles she even asks Sherlock and Mycroft etc. to give her verbal explanation of their emotional state so she can gauge their levels of anxiety. She cannot tell what is beautiful or painful either.

Therefore, how could she possibly dress up as someone beautiful that she knows John would fall for, engage in a text conversation/ affair for a prolonged period (emotions), become a therapist who is talking through someone's emotional problems as well as able to spot and understand non-verbal queues (such as John looking at imaginary Mary), or act as Faith Smith who was, as she pretended, emotionally traumatised and suicidal? Isn't that like... weird?

 
Based on how Euros is depicted in TFP , is it not possible for her to have just told everyone from Hope to Moriarty to Magnussen what to do so she could RPG with Sherlock ?

Last edited by Mothonthemantel (January 17, 2017 12:09 pm)

I think it's suggested that she experiemented on her guards/nurses (and possibly, at the previous facility, other patients/inmates), and that although she wasn't empathetic, was aware enough of human emotions to be able to manipulate people expertly.    She acted the emotions.   Yes, it's weird, and not entirely believable, but I don't think she's an entirely believable character anyway, for various reasons.  She works within the story, though. 

I have to imagine that Sherlock's parents didn't ever mention the sister, because he was so traumatised after what happened and didn't accept her existence (realistically, they might have got some help for him, but ... they didn't, or it didn't work).  I'm surprised that he didn't come across anything to do with Victor's disappearance (some children who have disappeared are still talked about, many years later). 

I suppose it's one thing to understand and have empathy for other people's emotions... and another to pretend to show them? 

Naavy wrote:

Of course, and we even can imagine the nanny (not babysitter, but the real nanny, living with the family), in mrs Hudson's spare room, or in 221 C, but it is really forced - Sherlock may not wish to change the room, or share his bedroom with John (they both deserve a privacy). John would be not fond of finding body parts besides his baby's milk in the fridge, and strange Sherlock's clients in the next room - all these stories, and all these bacterias ;] 
I can imagine Jonh, living in the next building, or somewhere really close.

You seriously can't affort a live in nanny in London. It would be also difficult to find one for a single father.
Don't know about fathers staying at home with their young children, tho - what are the possibilities in the UK?
The most plausible solution for me is that John stays at home (in 221b) with Rosie for several months until she is one year old, then he goes back to work and Rosie is in a child care during the day. That's what poeple do when they have a child, isn't it?
Meanwhile Mrs. H. can babysit if something urgent or unexpected comes up. Molly can help too on occasion, she's the godmother after all.
And my headcanon says that sharing a bedroom is no hardship for Sherlock and John after they have healed emotionally and taken the next step

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ewige wrote:

Naavy wrote:

Of course, and we even can imagine the nanny (not babysitter, but the real nanny, living with the family), in mrs Hudson's spare room, or in 221 C, but it is really forced - Sherlock may not wish to change the room, or share his bedroom with John (they both deserve a privacy). John would be not fond of finding body parts besides his baby's milk in the fridge, and strange Sherlock's clients in the next room - all these stories, and all these bacterias ;] 
I can imagine Jonh, living in the next building, or somewhere really close.

You seriously can't affort a live in nanny in London. It would be also difficult to find one for a single father.
Don't know about fathers staying at home with their young children, tho - what are the possibilities in the UK?
The most plausible solution for me is that John stays at home (in 221b) with Rosie for several months until she is one year old, then he goes back to work and Rosie is in a child care during the day. That's what poeple do when they have a child, isn't it?
Meanwhile Mrs. H. can babysit if something urgent or unexpected comes up. Molly can help too on occasion, she's the godmother after all.
And my headcanon says that sharing a bedroom is no hardship for Sherlock and John after they have healed emotionally and taken the next step

I do no know, how it looks in UK, but I imagine, the nanny could be a au-par, a nursing student, or a retired nurse, taking care for a child partly in return for inhabitancy (is this the right word?) - in that variant John, of course, keeps the house. It would be not only about John and Sherlock, Rosie would be the most vulnerable part of the arrangement. I imagine visiting "uncle Sherlock" as the favorite part of her live (and his maybe too), but living in one house with these two men, discussing mostly murders, would create rather unhealthy emotional atmosphere for the little child.

Naavy wrote:

I imagine visiting "uncle Sherlock" as the favorite part of her live (and his maybe too), but living in one house with these two men, discussing mostly murders, would create rather unhealthy emotional atmosphere for the little child.

When you switch normal TV broadcast on, it´s mostly murders too.

Also, I believe John and Sherlock can control themselves around the child - like most policemen, army men, surgeons and other people whose job can be considered "bloody".

nakahara wrote:

When you switch normal TV broadcast on, it´s mostly murders too.

Also, I believe John and Sherlock can control themselves around the child - like most policemen, army men, surgeons and other people whose job can be considered "bloody".

Good point!. Though I have the big doubts about Sherlock, controlling his joy, when he has some interesting murder to solve.

So we switch to the mode "her first crime scene" when she is 9 months old? I read once fanfiction like that, it was nice and funny

Preceja wrote:

The variant with au- pair and John staying in his house seems to me the most realistic. Baker street can never be adapted suitable for child  and it means sustain suitable for child despite of activities that happen there , I cannot imagine it. It would not be Sherlock any more. 

I'm sorry but have you actually tried to get an au-pair before?
Rules differ slightly across countries but here in Austria au-pairs get about EUR 500 per month, work 20 hours a week for that and are expected to do sight seeing and language classes. Food and lodging included.
Au-pairs are not cheap and they don't do parent's work really. It's still a luxury to have one for two children when both parents have a full-time job. John's situation is very different.
I'm sorry to say that but an au-pair is not realistic at all in this scenario.

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Vhanja wrote:

You guys should read "Nature and nurture". 

Do explain!
(Since I haven't read it and don't get the joke )

Most amazing, heartwarming, curl-your-toes-awesome (and also actuallyt the most popular) Johnlock fanfic where Sherlock and John raises a baby (which happens to be Sherlock's clone) in 221b. 

Just to say that it's doable. 

Last edited by Vhanja (January 17, 2017 3:39 pm)