ewige wrote:

Oh, look!
(Stealing shamelessly from the TFP First Impressions thread)

Tilly11 wrote:

I'm watching Study in Pink now, and noticed that after the "Wrong!" trilogy, his next text was "You know where to find me. SH" Full circle there. Also full circle with the statement that he is not only a great man, he is a good man. Another of many bows, wrapping from the first episode to the last! I loved it!

 

THANK YOU. I've totally forgotten about this text!
I get it that one of the possible romantic interests of Sherlock is supposed to be Irene here but this text really bothered me somehow. I knew it didn't have to go to Irene but now it seems even less likely.

 
When Greg said the good man thing I actually said out loud "wow, this really is the last one". It just felt so final. I hope not though.

ismiseceltic wrote:

So, I did a thing if anyone is interested in a shortish read. Spoilers through the end of TLD and clean. It's what I think happened after the hug.

https://ismiseceltic.tumblr.com/post/155887712123/him

Headcanon accept as my own.  

Moffat on Irene:

"I have no reason to suppose that Sherlock is not telling the truth, that he loves ignoring her texts. There was no new information there. We always known he rescued her and she wasn’t really dead. And if you paid attention you’d have known they’ve remained slightly in touch because there’s a rose — when he’s injured — there’s a single rose in the room. If you think about it, he saves her life, they must have escaped together, obviously there’s some form of contact."

​Moffat on Molly:

"She gets over it! Surely at a certain point you have to figure out that after Sherlock escapes tells her, “I’m really sorry about that, it was a code, I thought your flat was about to blow up.” And she says, “Oh well that’s okay then, you bastard.” And then they go back to normal, that’s what people do. I can’t see why you’d have to play that out. She forgives him, of course, and our newly grown-up Sherlock is more careful with her feelings in the future. In the end of that scene, she’s a bit wounded by it all, but he’s absolutely devastated. He smashes up the coffin, he’s in pieces, he’s more upset than she is, and that’s a huge step in Sherlock’s development. The question is: Did Sherlock survive that scene? She probably had a drink and went and shagged someone, I dunno. Molly was fine."

(source: http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/16/sherlock-showrunner-season-4-finale/ )


Well, we're not really further than we were before, are we?

Yet I don't know, my Johnlock heart is quite happy.

​Sure, it doesn't rule out the whole "Sherlock had sex with Irene" theory

​And the way he talks about Molly doesn't make it sound like she's that much in love with Sherlock and it feels like it excludes any Sherlolly should there be another season.

​But it's probably just me and my Johnlock's blinkers
 

For me, I have decided that I will no longer debate the issue of Johnlock.

Oh, I will still support it and fangirl over it, but I won't even peek in the debate thread any more. I won't argue or try to convince anyone.

I see what I see and I believe what I believe.  At the end of TFP I saw johnlock and parentlock.  I saw Sherlock and John and Rosie as a family, with Gramma Hudders, Aunt Molly and Uncle Lestrade too of course.     After so much anxiety over what might be coming, the end of the episode made me so damn happy.  

Would I have liked a kiss?  You guys know me, I would've liked to see them tangled in bed shagging like bunnies!!!!  But do I have to have it?  No.  I'm ok with what we were given.  I'm good.

Last edited by tonnaree (January 17, 2017 4:17 am)

Well my views are:
John and Sherlock still living separately.
Sherlock and Irene:  well I confess Steven does have me a tad confused on that one, too.  So didn't they have sex?  Has Sherlock had sex once when he was a student as a trial?!  See my head canon was that Euros and Sherlock are very similar. They had done exactly the same thing: thought they'd give sex a go, to see what all the fuss was about.  Because she's so disturbed it obviously didn't matter who it was with and had to be rape. See with Sherlock, I would have thought Irene would have been a good choice, but maybe it did happen about the same time when he started experimenting with drugs.
Sherlock + Molly: I still think she's in love with him.  He likes her, but as a friend- like John, tho maybe John's more like a bro.
Incidentally, where are all these Moffat interviews coming from?

It happens.
Though I'm still confused on the rules.
I thought I'd seen other non-Johnlockers post here.
But then, what does one constitute as a Johnlocker?

besleybean wrote:

It happens.
Though I'm still confused on the rules.
I thought I'd seen other non-Johnlockers post here.
But then, what does one constitute as a Johnlocker?

 
I'm actually glad you are here. Quoting other threads was getting ridiculous. I think the rule is no jl bashing first and foremost and there has been none of that in your post.

Steven's words about Irene are reassuring for jl but they don't prove or deny anything. Just like other romantic possibilities. This is the best jl confirmation for me, actually: we didn't get to see them romantically involved because it's not that kind of the show, not because they are not or can't be. It's about detectice and legends and not what they are doing in their free time.

Last edited by ewige (January 17, 2017 7:37 am)

You are right, Schmiezi. This is not a thread to debate if there has been, is, or will be Johnlock. It is not about individual people being allowed to post here or not but about opinions stated. For a discussion about the IF of Johnlock we have the debate. Please respect this distinction.

Last edited by SusiGo (January 17, 2017 7:48 am)

If you feel no need to debate, you do not have to. You can just enjoy fanfics or fan art for now. This has never been a debate thread in the first place but a place to celebrate and enjoy Johnlock.

Feel free to share it. Would love to see it.