TheOtherOne wrote:

Here's another "continuity error"... in the scene where these things happen, John's "presence" in 221B is a bit odd...

1. Sherlock tells Lestrade and Hopkins to shut up outside his flat, shuts door and sits down in his chair. At this point there seems to be nothing in John's chair.
2. Sherlock asks for John's opinion during chat with client and suddenly notices red balloon there in John's chair. John then appears from kitchen.
3. Sherlock kicks the client out of 221B. When he shuts the door you hear John (and see the balloon) before you actually see John come into the shot... they have a little banter and John walks from behind his chair to stand in front of the wooden shelving in the background.
4. Hopkins knocks and comes in, but when the shot zooms out again John is not there anymore.
5. Lestrade enters next and when he shows Sherlock the bust suddenly John's there again, in pretty much the same spot in front of the shelving.

Also note that during this scene, John never shares screen time with any other character apart from Sherlock. Even when he's supposed to be part of the conversation with the client and Lestrade, you never see John in the same frame as those other characters.

I don't think John was really there at all.



 

1. the red balloon is a bit further, cannot be seen at the moment. But later while Sherlock is talking you can see it at the right side.

4. I think that it is a mistake, not the first one. We have seen scenes where position of Sherlock's arms was changing during them forth and back  (in lab with Molly or at wedding) or where he  came to the room and then was back in door again.  It is difficult to have all details under control.

Last edited by Preceja (January 5, 2017 11:43 pm)

When Sherlock asked Mycroft about AGRA, Mycroft started to play Wikipedia and sprout speeches about that town on Yamuna river.

But later, during speech with Lady Smallwood, she reproached Mycroft that it was he who hired AGRA mercenaries for the job.

He knew very well who they are so why was he playing dumb during his conversation with Sherlock?

Because it was all the roll of the dice, don't you know?

About Mycroft and AGRA: yeah, basically Mycroft admits just a few seconds later that he "of course" knew about AGRA. I think he was testing Sherlock, trying to find out how much he knows.

Why can Mary breath the very same drugged air and be very close to Sherlock , even talking to him , and not be drugged herself ? 

Did she spend years building up an immunity in case of just such a scenario after watching The Princess Bride  .

Why is the wooden flying buttress in Ellas office attached to a wall that doesn't reach the floor and looks remarkably like a flimsy blue blind. 

How does Mycrofts office wall explode !

Last edited by Mothonthemantel (January 6, 2017 3:45 am)

ewige wrote:

We have plenty of meeting rooms with normal glass windows to halls here.
The stairs look pretty empty but Sherlock mentions it's daytime so there could haven been an odd passerby.

Not a headscratcher, but I loved Lady Smallwood in this ep. The acting was superb. Come to think of it, in HLV too

I agree!  She's an award-winning stage actress too. I'm a fan, and I think she's really lovely to look at too.   Maybe she needs her own thread!
 

Mothonthemantel wrote:

Why can Mary breath the very same drugged air and be very close to Sherlock , even talking to him , and not be drugged herself ?

Did she spend years building up an immunity in case of just such a scenario after watching The Princess Bride .

Why is the wooden flying buttress in Ellas office attached to a wall that doesn't reach the floor and looks remarkably like a flimsy blue blind.

How does Mycrofts office wall explode !

I think sniffing the paper might have been a bad idea on Sherlock's side (though it made me smile, he just has to sniff things, doesn't he?)

I fear because it might have been exactly that. I guess the set from her ols office does not longer exist and they made her a new one and it looked good that way ;)

I think that was just a transition-shot, the mistress of the first victim in ASIP did not suddenly stand in a rainy room...
 

There's also the possibility that he knew Mary would drug him (although I do think he looks surprised).  It seems to me that he had set it up in such a way that she would know something was going on (the strange meeting place, "quite a text", etc.) and had already spoken to John and put the tracker on the stick.  He wasn't trying to negotiate with her - he knew that she would come prepared to run away, so he set it up so that she would do just that and they'd be able to trace her.  I think he may well have anticipated that part of the running away would involve drugging him or incapacitating him in some way (a bit gentler than shooting him!). 
 

@Liberty: I think they both very much anticipated what the other was up to. But it still made me smile that Mary used his little unknown-substance-in-front-of-me-have-to-do-olfactory-analyses-tick, they truly got to know each other

Last edited by Lola Red (January 6, 2017 1:19 pm)

Liberty wrote:

There's also the possibility that he knew Mary would drug him (although I do think he looks surprised).  It seems to me that he had set it up in such a way that she would know something was going on (the strange meeting place, "quite a text", etc.) and had already spoken to John and put the tracker on the stick.  He wasn't trying to negotiate with her - he knew that she would come prepared to run away, so he set it up so that she would do just that and they'd be able to trace her.  I think he may well have anticipated that part of the running away would involve drugging him or incapacitating him in some way (a bit gentler than shooting him!). 
 

He would not put a tracker into the USb stick if he thought Mary would not run away.

Also, when Mary handed him the drugged up paper, he at first flinched, looked at her with reproach and only then did he sniff it - quite deliberately, if you ask me....

I know someone's probably already mentioned this on the forum, but I watched TST till the very end, after the credits and all that were over... cause you never know, right? But during the credits there were random red letters, and they spell "SIX NAPOLEONS." I know that this case was based off of Doyle's story, but did Moftiss randomly put it there just because? But in my opinion, Moftiss doesn't do stuff "just because," they always have a purpose. Can't really see the purpose for this though. I might just be speculating too much.