ancientsgate wrote:

I've always wondered, though-- that scene by the fire in the pub that evening was so cringe-worthy, Sherlock was so awful to John, where do you suppose they each slept after that? I can imagine the cold silence between them in that one room, for sure. But that's off topic here, I realize.

Oh my God, I've often wondered that too. It's weird though, because Sherlock didn't apologise to John until the next day in the graveyard, so it kind of came across like they'd not seen each other.

Maybe one of them was already asleep in bed when the other came back, and then I think it was Sherlock that snuck off early the next morning, as he went round to Henry's house and started acting all weird with the coffee.

hypergreenfrog wrote:

I assumed that John had slept somewhere else, but I don't have a clue WHERE he would have gone.
If it had been me, I'd have asked Henry and stayed at his house. After all, it is a huge,empty house and Henry is uncomfortable staying alone, he might have appreciated the company. But I guess from what we see in the episode that didn't happen.

John could of crashed all night on a pew in the church 

KeepersPrice wrote:

hypergreenfrog wrote:

I assumed that John had slept somewhere else, but I don't have a clue WHERE he would have gone.
If it had been me, I'd have asked Henry and stayed at his house. After all, it is a huge,empty house and Henry is uncomfortable staying alone, he might have appreciated the company. But I guess from what we see in the episode that didn't happen.

John could of crashed all night on a pew in the church 

And Davina said he could have slept in the car. That Range Rover was large enough to curl up in, but cold!

He could have pitched a tent in the graveyard, where Sherlock found him the next AM.

But knowing John a little bit, as I feel I do, I imagine he went right to their room, kept to himself, washed up, laid down, and just went to sleep in the silence. Maybe Sherlock stayed down by the fire, dozing in that chair until 5AM.  See, this is why we need fan fic, to answer these questions......  *g*

Davina wrote:

Where did he get a tent from? If he slept in the Range Rover he could make sure Sherlock didn't go driving off in it once he had had a drink in the pub. 

He asked the gay innkeepers and borrowed theirs. I don't know where he got a tent from.... make something up!  *g* For that matter, he wouldn't sleep in either a tent or the Range Rover without a nice warm sleeping bag.... I get the feeling it's cold in them thar hills at night.

ancientsgate wrote:

But knowing John a little bit, as I feel I do, I imagine he went right to their room, kept to himself, washed up, laid down, and just went to sleep in the silence.

This makes the most sense to me. I mean think about it. How many other fights have these two most likely had on a daily basis. John certainly has had to learn to live with frost in the air.

ancientsgate wrote:

Sentimental Pulse wrote:

ancientsgate wrote:

But knowing John a little bit, as I feel I do, I imagine he went right to their room, kept to himself, washed up, laid down, and just went to sleep in the silence.

This makes the most sense to me. I mean think about it. How many other fights have these two most likely had on a daily basis. John certainly has had to learn to live with frost in the air.

And the frustrating thing would be, that damned Sherlock wouldn't be in the least bit upset or frosty, after he'd said his piece. He simply says what he wants to, exactly what he means to, to whomever he wants, and be damned with their pesky feelings, reactions or any fallout whatsoever. Imagine having a fight with someone like that; I cannot think of anything more frustrating-- how do you fight with a damned wall? So yes, John would be well-schooled in just getting on with things, putting his hurt or confusion aside, and just doing the next thing on Sherlock's agenda-- knowing for sure that so it has always been, and so it will always be. I do think, though, in that AM scene in Hounds, with Sherlock finding John seated out in the graveyard (how metaphoric was that, I ask you), maybe John was toying with the idea of telling Sherlock to shove it where the sun doesn't shine. John? John! You are AMAZING! You are FANTASTIC! *chuckle* "Yes, all right. Don't overdo it."

Exactly this, guys. ^^


I kinda like the idea of Sherlock wandering the moors or staying by the fire all night.

hypergreenfrog wrote:

That is an interesting essay, and well written.
I agree with the writer that Irene's speech probably made John rethink his attitude a bit, maybe even stopped him getting annoyed at the frequent references to them being a couple.

Yet, regarding the observations about "Hounds", I agree with Kazza that they are quite far fetched:
- They didn't book ahead, so probably John just asked if they had any spare rooms at all. We know nothing that would suggest otherwise.
- Sherlock sent John the picture of the therapist, he wouldn't have done that if he knew that John had decided to give up dating for a while (and we can trust Sherlock would know about that, even if John had not actually told him ).

I have never mentioned this anywhere, because it's not relevant at all, but I actually found that scene with the landlord of the inn slightly ridiculous. Here is a man who is in a gay relationship himself - of all people, he should know that even in the 21st century not every gay couple feels comfortable being addressed as such in public, and that quite a few people still take offense at being mistaken for being gay. Why would he boldly address two men walking into his inn (seperately) as a couple?

I general, I might agree, but...didn't Sherlock walk past them through the bar right before then? And didn't John kind of gaze after him dreamily? And maybe some people would interpret Sherlock's gaze as checking John out?

And some people have argued about whether "double room" refers to a room with one bed or two beds. So maybe he's apologizing for providing one bed instead of one room with two beds. So at first, John was saying it was ok that they had one bed!
 

I always assumed (and I admit that I haven't really been clueing for further looks in the episode about that) that Sherlock probably sat by the fire for a long time after John had left, so when Sherlock eventually came into their room John was already asleep. Someone here already mentioned this, and I would agree.
Another possibility of course would be that Sherlock simply didn't sleep at all that night - after all, he sometimes doesn't sleep for days, right? So maybe that was one of those nights.

Susi, now that you've posted the transcript, I remember it, too.
And I also remember that when I saw the episode for the first time, I was thinking to myself 'so did John ask for a double room when he did the booking...?'.

I do not think John ever asked for a double room. It was the landlord who assumed he and Sheryl are a couple. John doesn't bother explaing that they aren't a couple. 
I never noticed anything indicating that John has stopped dating.
Nor is John planning on sharing a bed with Sheryl.
Who is fantasizing that John wants to sleep with Sheryl?
John is not gay, nor is Sheryl. (Ask Janine and Mary)
There is no Johnlock.