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I can imagine Mycroft overlooking Mary's true identity. In a way that he thinks maybe:
"So, now that Sherlock is gone, John settles down. How boring. But that's how they are in the end. He wasn't different in the end."
What contradicts this, is Mycroft's knowledge about how John misses the war. He should become suspicious of John's "mundane" life.

Mycroft could also think John just needs comfort, and that's what Mary is. In that scenario, I could also see him ignore Mary. Like "let the heartbroken guy be happy with that girl, whoever she is, he needs it".

Of course Mycroft could also know about Mary's background, maybe even her connection to CAM, and that's why he tries to keep Sherlock away from John in the beginning. But it doesn't fit with the proceedings, imo. Because then Mycroft would have surely warned Sherlock at some point. About Mary, not only CAM.

I cannot see Mycroft and Mary as a team without Sherlock knowing. I can imagine Mycroft, Mary and Sherlock (which again, and I don't like it, leaves a clueless John), or none of them plotting together.

Maybe I see Mycroft and Sherlock plotting against Magnusson in the end. But the way Sherlock says "tell Mary she's save now" makes me think she's not privy to the plan. Also, why drug a pregnant woman if she has all the facts anyway.

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But Mycroft seemed furios when he heard about Sherlock's plans to take on Magnusson. Or scared, hard to say. But not like he expected Sherlock to go after Magnusson.

Does Mycroft know that Sherlock knows about Mary's connection to CAM? And does Sherlock know? Seems to me he finds out pretty late...
 

Actually we are not sure that we ever saw them interact. There is no contact on the tarmac and we are not sure if the modern scenes from TAB are real. So it is possible that they met at the Holmeses and on the tarmac without ever exchanging a single word or glance. Which is definitely strange. 
 

Now this is a nice theory. Yes, Mary as goldfish and the boys back in 221B, why not? 

I get the impression that they did not have dinner together. Remember, Mrs Holmes is preparing something in the kitchen, there are potatoes on the laptop. I suppose dinner would have taken place later but then the Appledore disaster prevented it. Imagine Mummy and Mary sitting there, waiting for the boys, the monstrous mother and the woman who shot her son … bit awkward. And Daddy Holmes and Billy in between. 
 

Great scenario. And if they realised they all got drugged by that lovely friend of Sherlock's...

I need to see more of that Christmas. Can't we have it as a nice little dish like MHR?
 

Well, who knows...they might be filming that extra Christmas scene right now.  LOL

This is your opinion. I beg to differ.

SusiGo wrote:

This is your opinion. I beg to differ.

 
I'll join you on the begging.
I cringed so hard.