besleybean wrote:

But wouldn't it reflect real life?
The vast majority of widowers do at least start dating again, if not remarry.
As I see Mary as the love of John's life, i would like to feel he would never meet anybody else to match her.
But it seems neither fair nor realistic to expect John to live as a monk.
I mean in TV land they can do what they like and I would like John to remain single, but who knows?

So, what you have is a void that Sherlock can never, ever fill. 

So John lives out his life, miserable  because his wife is dead. -- or he finds another --palatable to fans--(Maybe.) How much of this is women's romance/wishful thinking  (no-one can ever take my place) and--- here's another question: why does (the vast majority of fanon) expect SHERLOCK to live as a sad, pining monk-- when fandom ( broadly speaking) is willing to let John bond with whomever it thinks might make him "happy"? 

John can be with other people, but Sherlock can not??? Not fair!

Last edited by RavenMorganLeigh (May 24, 2016 7:55 am)

I think that in this adaptation in particular, it's clear that Sherlock suppresses romantic/sexual feelings and chooses to be alone.   It's one way in which he's set apart from people and uniquely Sherlock, and pairing him up with somebody would change that.   I'm not saying that Moftiss couldn't change that - of course, they could, but it's something they seem to have set up over the course of the series (it's brought up in the first episode, and again, in TAB), and it would be a huge change.  I don't expect him to be sad and pining all the time (although there are times when he is), but the monk part is something that is established by the writers, rather than something that we are wishing for him.  (If he was a real person, of course I'd hope that he'd let go of that repression and experience a bit more of what the world has to offer, but I kind of like him how he is as a fictional person).

Apart from that, I don't think it's absolutely necessary for everybody to be with a romantic life partner.   The truth is that many people aren't, for all sorts of reasons including bereavement.  It doesn't mean that they can't live worthwhile, fulfilled lives.   I have wondered if Sherlock might give up his repression as he ages, and end up getting together with somebody when he's older, but I can also see Sherlock and John living together into retirement. 

Last edited by Liberty (May 24, 2016 8:13 am)

Side note:  What I see in S1 and S2 is John dating women and failing badly at it.

Well John wasn't too bad on the dating front, he bagged a wife out of it.

Or just maybe Mary fell head over heels in love with John and thought he was the best thing ever to happen to her...she certainly didn't want to lose him and appears to have given him a child.

I can agree with that.
But I feel the love is entirely mutual.

If that was the scenario, would he not have just chosen another man?

besleybean wrote:

If that was the scenario, would he not have just chosen another man?

I think I already told you about my heterosexual female friend who fell in love with a woman. She is straight, she says, it was just this special person. Her one exception. They are married for ten years now.

SusiGo wrote:

I think it is not so much about her dying but about her leaving the show or not. They could come up with all sorts of solutions - escape, divorce, imprisonment, witness protection, whatever. But if she remains, the whole Holmes/Watson dynamic will be irrevocably changed and - IMO - not in a good way. 

I agree. 100%.

Or, it could just be that Mary is the love of John's life and there is the possibility that he is straight.
I too have a formerly hetero friend(3 kids) who recently came out as lesbian...
This doesn't tell me anything about BBC Sherlock.

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