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nakahara · May 7, 2016 8:41 pm

SusiGo · May 7, 2016 10:21 pm

Here are some interesting ideas:

http://gosherlocked.tumblr.com/post/144011440221/sussexbound-gryssenielsen-sussexbound

sweetskates1 · May 8, 2016 1:44 am

OMG SusiGo thank you for sharing! This would fit my theory.

besleybean · May 8, 2016 7:39 am

OMG.
So am I reading that right?
Marycroft?!
Well I assume a marriage of convenience, or it didn't work out.
Would they go there?
Or is it mourning for another?

Liberty · May 8, 2016 7:48 am

That wife! How would Sherlock not have known Mary, if she had been married to Mycroft, even if it was a marriage of convenience? I don't think so ... although it would explain Mycroft not going to the wedding and warning Sherlock! I don't think Mycroft would be "in mourning" for Mary as a colleague, or as a friend. So if it's her, there has to be more of a connection than we know about. Or it's somebody else.

mrshouse · May 8, 2016 7:55 am

Hm, that's probably me being thick, but why has this necessarily a connection to Mary?

besleybean · May 8, 2016 9:37 am

I actually thought if Mycroft was mourning the loss of a spouse, it would a husband.
So maybe he's just showing courtesy in mourning Mary.
But if he had sacrificed a spouse for The Cause.
He may expect John to do the same.

Liberty · May 8, 2016 9:54 am

I kind of assume he's gay, but that doesn't rule out a marriage of convenience. (I know he wears the ring, but I wonder about him being married at all. The "goldfish" conversation suggested that he'd never been interested in having his own goldfish - so who would be near his level that he could be married to?).

besleybean · May 8, 2016 9:57 am

Good point.
A bit like John choosing a smart best pal and an equally smart wife.

mrshouse · May 8, 2016 11:11 am

What does that have to do with what Liberty said?

Schmiezi · May 8, 2016 11:17 am

mrshouse wrote:
What does that have to do with what Liberty said?

I just want es to write down the very same question. I cannot follow the logical here, sorry.

Yitzock · May 8, 2016 11:23 am

I think what besley meant (though she can correct me if I'm off) that John is smart (even if in a different way than Sherlock is) and so he has smart people in his life close to him. Similarly, Mycroft would have to find someonne that he didn't find too stupid to want to marry that person.
And if I may add my own thought, it's kind of like how John (and also Sherlock for that matter), chooses friends and his wife based on the fact that he doesn't want a life that doesn't have excitement or that's boring.

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mrshouse · May 8, 2016 11:45 am

Okay , but that leads us back to that John didn't have the full and true information about his girl when he chose to marry her. But that is probably for the Mary thread.

Lola Red · May 8, 2016 11:55 am

While I could see Mycroft marrying for appearances sake, Mark said the ring is not a wedding ring. We have not seen an outward sign of mourning from Mycroft the last time a family member was "dead". So maybe someone work-related? He seems to tolerate "Athena" on a long term basis, but are they close enough for him to show any outward signs of mourning if she'd died?

besleybean · May 8, 2016 2:05 pm

On the last point: I would doubt it.

Ivy · May 8, 2016 5:08 pm

besleybean wrote:
I actually thought if Mycroft was mourning the loss of a spouse, it would a husband.

me too.

kgreen20 · May 8, 2016 5:16 pm

I seriously doubt it. I don't believe that either of the Holmses are homosexual. In fact, I know that Sherlock isn't, and neither is John. If anything, Sherlock comes across as asexual, and I rather suspect that Mycroft is, too. Neither of them appear to be the least bit interested in dating or getting married. By Sherlock's own admission in "A Study in Pink", he's married to his work, and I suspect that the same could be said for Mycroft.

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Schmiezi · May 8, 2016 5:24 pm

kgreen20 wrote:
I seriously doubt it. I don't believe that either of the Holmses are homosexual. In fact, I know that Sherlock isn't, and neither is John. If anything, Sherlock comes across as asexual, and I rather suspect that Mycroft is, too. Neither of them appear to be the least bit interested in dating or getting married. By Sherlock's own admission in "A Study in Pink", he's married to his work, and I suspect that the same could be said for Mycroft.

How can you "know" it? Sorry, but I'd guess that you have to think, analyze and believe, like the rest of us. Unless you are involved in the process of making the show. ;-)

Liberty · May 8, 2016 5:26 pm

I would say celibate rather than asexual, but I think it means much the same thing - he has put aside that part of his life (even though he does sometimes feel "urges"). Mycroft is kind of aloof and I'd have assumed he did much the same thing, if it wasn't for his ribbing of Sherlock over being a virgin - it implies that Mycroft most definitely isn't. I'm just guessing that Mycroft is gay, whereas Sherlock has shown a little bit of attraction to women but is still a bit ambiguous, I think .

sweetskates1 · May 8, 2016 5:28 pm

I don't think he is mourning his spouse. I don't think he wears a ring as a sign of his own marriage. Someone he considers close to him may be 'dead' though. I think Mary.