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None of that, actually.
To take a few steps back, I actually think it might matter to Mycroft if Sherlock and John have forgiven her.
Surely they were the injured parties?
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besleybean wrote:
Unless I am misunderstanding the word, it'll only be 'insightful' if proved correct.
Don't worry, nobody is forced to read something
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There's one thing I can not get past.
Sherlock was dying. His heart had stopped and yet he dragged himself back to life.
Why?
Because I voice in his subconscious said "That wife, John Watson is definitely in danger."
Why did the writers put it this way? There are many other ways this could've been written so that we would not express doubt about Mary's motives.
Just one example would be, "You can't die Sherlock, John and Mary need you"!
We are told that Sherlock is dying and his last thought is that John is in danger from his wife. Why did the creators tell us this?
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tonnaree wrote:
There's one thing I can not get past.
Sherlock was dying. His heart had stopped and yet he dragged himself back to life.
Why?
Because I voice in his subconscious said "That wife, John Watson is definitely in danger."
Why did the writers put it this way? There are many other ways this could've been written so that we would not express doubt about Mary's motives.
Just one example would be, "You can't die Sherlock, John and Mary need you"!
We are told that Sherlock is dying and his last thought is that John is in danger from his wife. Why did the creators tell us this?
Excellent point, tonnaree!
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The writers did so, because they don't listen to their own commentaries
*back to my grotto*
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Bad bad Harriet...
Yes, tonnaree!! A thousand times yes! I don't get this: it's argued that Mary is forgiven because of the reconciliation scene. But this deepest inside into Sherlock's mind is at least equal insightful. Especially in regards to his opinion about Mary.
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Every time we can see into Sherlock's head, Mary is presented in a less than nice way to put it mildly:
- That wife!
- The Mary Watson, who are you? deduction?
- The whole of TAB
There is a marked contrast between the way Sherlock sees her in his own mind and the way he behaves towards her. It seems reasonable to conclude that his personal opinion about her differs from what he shows when other people are present.
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(Shrugs) I dunno, we'll have to see...
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If we just waited and saw, we would die of boredom between series.
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Well, kind of...
I honestly feel Sherlock really does like Mary...
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Hm, I agree with Susi, there are differences between his mind and his outwardly behavior.
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I know there are on other occasions, I'm not sure about in this case.
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tonnaree wrote:
There's one thing I can not get past.
Sherlock was dying. His heart had stopped and yet he dragged himself back to life.
Why?
Because I voice in his subconscious said "That wife, John Watson is definitely in danger."
Why did the writers put it this way? There are many other ways this could've been written so that we would not express doubt about Mary's motives.
Just one example would be, "You can't die Sherlock, John and Mary need you"!
We are told that Sherlock is dying and his last thought is that John is in danger from his wife. Why did the creators tell us this?
I think that at that point he hasn't done his deduction about Mary - he hasn't had a chance to. She has shot him and he has lost consciousness. All he knows at that point is that she has apparently tried to kill him, and that John is about to walk into the room. I don't think he does his deduction (the whole agent/assassin/surgery/fake identity thing) until much later. For a start, he needs to know that the ambulance arrived early, information that he didn't have while unconscious. It wouldn't make any sense for him to think of protecting Mary and John equally before the deduction - at that point while he's unconscious, it seems like she's a serious threat to John.
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But presumably Sherlock doesn't think she's a threat now, or he wouldn't leave her with John.
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I think, as with so many things, it's too early to tell for sure. So I'm very excited to see where S4 will take this.
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Or the whole forgiveness thing at Christmas was to lull Mary into letting her guard down. No, we don't know anything for sure right now but this is a real possibility.
On a related note we still don't know what happened in the months leading up to Christmas or how this might have illuminated Sherlock's real feelings.
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Yes, it's an odd sort of gap. Perhaps it was needed to give Sherlock time to recover, but I'm not convinced. It does take Mary closer to the end of her pregnancy, and emphasises that it took John months to be able to forgive. But it does feel like there is some missing time. We don't even know if John was living with Mary or Sherlock during that time. And poor Mrs Hudson, never knowing where the next month's rent is coming from (did she have two tenants during that month, or one? Did Sherlock pay in advance for the 6 months he was going to survive abroad, and did he warn her that she might need a new tenant?).
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Liberty wrote:
Did Sherlock pay in advance for the 6 months he was going to survive abroad, and did he warn her that she might need a new tenant?).
Mrs. Hudson secretly finances Baker Street from series of autobiographical shorts stories about herself and her tenants. She got so rich recently that she doesn´t need the rent anymore, but she keeps Sherlock living there out of sentimental reasons. He enabled her to have these means to support herself in the first place....
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Perhaps she has an income from the exotic dancing videos too?
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Sure, she owns copyright to them and earns quite a lot from this.