SolarSystem wrote:

besleybean wrote:

Well for me it doesn't matter how Sherlock faked his death, he just did.

Oh, Steven would be quite proud of you. That's exactly how he goes about so many things these days, especially in Doctor Who. "It's the Doctor, get over it!" is basically the explanation to everything. "It's Sherlock, he faked his death, get over it!" works just as well.
 

I must agree. It's not important how he did it, despite all the speculations it never was, only as John had said: why?
Personally I believe the third explanation is technically true, but the circumstances are not. Sherlock told Anderson, it was well planned and prepared in advance and I think, this is a lie. It was desperate, last minute (okay last hours) action.

There's only one situation, when the question "How?" will be important - if Moriarty is really alive and faked his suicide too!

To write a show about the detective and to have him do mundane things like that is like engaging Picasso to polish your toilet or engaging Isaac Newton to wash your dishes... a waste of time and talent.

Will Sherlock really pick Baby Watson up? Will he change her nappies or not? Oh, I´m feeling "thrilled" already! 

nakahara wrote:

Will Sherlock really pick Baby Watson up? Will he change her nappies or not? Oh, I´m feeling "thrilled" already! 

And you're not the only one...
 

Vhanja wrote:

Almost makes me wonder why you bother following Setlock and the show if this is what your thoughts about the show are.

I do it as a sociological experiment - to see how a detective show can be "successfully" turned into a family sitcom.
Will write a doctor´s work about that soon.
 

Actually, I'm not really 'following' Setlock. I take notice of it on tumblr and that's about it.
Until now I only mentioned this to one person, but since we're more or less talking about it now: When it comes to "Sherlock", I'm in severe mourning. I used to love this show like crazy and I still am madly in love with S1 and S2. This changed with S3, and TAB didn't really help, either, in bringing back my love for the show. I do have trust in Mark Gatiss, by the way, but when it comes to Steven Moffat... I'm not so sure.
And well, I still follow the show because it used to be one of the most wonderful things in my life and I still feel very connected to it. You can stick with things even if your feelings towards them change. Just because there was a time when those feelings were different and you want those feelings back.

edit: I never called Moffat 'horrible'. And I'm sorry if this might be hard to take for some people, but he's not a saint, and even on a fan board it should be possible to mention the things one doesn't like about his writing - and that's all I did.
 

Last edited by SolarSystem (April 8, 2016 10:22 pm)

I have no issue with people not liking the show anymore. Sometimes a fan's view of the show clashes horribly with the creators view of the show. That's fair and ok, I have no problem understanding it. And no show is perfect, and we should be free to be able to discuss all aspects of the show and give constructive criticism on various aspects on the show.

However, I am here on a fan board as a fan, and it makes me sad to repeatedly see posts that have no other function that sarcastics stings towards the writers or the characters of the show. I want to enjoy Setlock, not reading stabs like that all the time. 

Perhaps a separate thread where disappointed fans can vent their frustraion might be a good thing? Which is not do discuss and argue, but where people can freely talk about their frustrations and disappointments. 

Vhanja wrote:

I have no issue with people not liking the show anymore. Sometimes a fan's view of the show clashes horribly with the creators view of the show. That's fair and ok, I have no problem understanding it. And no show is perfect, and we should be free to be able to discuss all aspects of the show and give constructive criticism on various aspects on the show.

However, I am here on a fan board as a fan, and it makes me sad to repeatedly see posts that have no other function that sarcastics stings towards the writers or the characters of the show. I want to enjoy Setlock, not reading stabs like that all the time. 

Perhaps a separate thread where disappointed fans can vent their frustraion might be a good thing? Which is not do discuss and argue, but where people can freely talk about their frustrations and disappointments. 

Discussion is usually born among people with different opinions. Labelling every different opinion as sarcasm in an effort to stop others from discussing things they like / don´t like or they are disturbed about eventually leads to the forum full of slogans to which the opposition is not allowed.

You can freely ignore such "sarcastic" posts if you don´t like them, but to create the ghetto where every opinion you don´t like is put... that´s a very weird thing. Who would decide what belongs there? 

Constuctive criticism is only possible if the other side can hear you. According to a definition: "The purpose of 'constructive criticism is to improve the outcome. In collaborative work, this kind of criticism is a valuable tool in raising and maintaining performance standards."
But this is impossible where the authors criticised are being absent and far from you and where your opinion never reaches them. Which is the case here - Moftiss will never hear nor will they care about my opinion. My constructive criticism might hardly "improve" their work.
But other fans might like to discuss my views on things with me, even if they are negative. This is the role of the forum. Negative or positive opinion - every one of them might resonate with somebody.
So I´m still against any ghettoisation of such opinions or views. I too don´t agree with every member who writes some opinion on the forum, but I was never robbed of anything by learning about their views in turn.

Last edited by nakahara (April 8, 2016 11:01 pm)

But I can´t know if you´ll view my wording as a pure sarcasm unless the post is already out. 

OK, we kidnapped this thread for a while, so let´s return back now to a last word from Louise Brealey now. Probably on her way home:



They will probably not be filming through thr weekend or would they?

I would be excited too.