- I also only just noticed that it's a female pilot on the plane!

I may be wrong as I have only watched the episode once so far, but isn't the female pilot the same actress who plays Lady Carmichael?? I remember that's what I thought when I saw her at least.

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Christmas?  Where was Christmas?  I must've missed that, too. Christmas?
 

Well... there was snow in the intro scene? 

Yes. Snow. What sounds like people singing a Christmas carol. John asking the newspapers guy how's the Blue Carbuncle going (and The Blue Carbuncle is a Christmas story), and then that same guy shouts "Merry Christmas, Mr Holmes!"
 

The bit of dialogue that gave  the biggest clue to it being Christmas for me was

Lestrade. 'Just to wish you the complements of the season..............Merry Christmas.'
Sherlock. 'Merry Christmas.'
John. 'Merry Christmas.'
Mary. 'Merry Christmas.'



 

Tee Hee.

10 Commandments of Detective fiction, written by Ronald Knox is quite interesting.
Especially points 2 and 10 : "all supernatural or preternatural agencies are ruled out as a matter of course" and "twin brothers, and doubles generally, must not appear unless we have been duly prepared for them."

Yes . It is interesting to think that Sherlock cast all the people he knew into roles for his mind palace construct . I wonder if some of the people we don't know in the special will turn up as people Sherlock knows in S04.
I wonder why Mary wasn't pregnant, and there was no baby .Maybe the baby thing just hasn't registered in Sherlocks mind properly , but that seems very odd as he was the one that noticed it first.
Also Mary had to go disguised to get into  221b , wouldn't  Mrs Hudson let John's wife in ? Or is the disguise a ref to the pregnancy.

I took it that the disguise was for John's benefit - the suggestion was that he was neglecting her and spending his time with Sherlock, and the only way she could catch his attention was through posing as a client.   I think it's also an allusion to Sherlock coming across Mary in black in Magnussen's office.   He identifies her from the perfume (although he failed to do so in real life!).   Later, when she tells LeStrade to leave, it looks almost as if she's raising a gun to shoot him.   Also, making her a client was how Sherlock and John dealt with Mary after Sherlock exposed her. 

I don't know about the baby.  Somebody mentioned that Mary looked pregnant in the mind palace - I found it difficult to see. 

Sherlock doesn't even notice until late on (in the mind palace, and in real life!). 

Another thing - Sherlock alludes to he and Mary being John's parents: "don't they grow up fast?".  I felt that alluded to the comment about John and Mary being Sherlock's parents in TSOT - funny how the father and child are switched.   

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Yes but he knows Mary tricked he and John for a long time with the nurse disguise and while he does probably think it funny John didn't observe it , he does seem quite annoyed at himself for not observing.
Remember Mary didn't do anything herself , Sherlock imagined her doing it because it's something she actually did do.

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Yes I understand the Mary has many jobs and disguise timing jokes , my curiosity was at the lack of pregnancy with mind palace Mary. As far as I can tell she is not and it probably have been mentioned if she was.
I linked it to the disguise because I have been reading some of the threads here where people think maybe she faked being pregnant .But I don't think that is possible but it is odd Sherlock didn't include it in his mp.
We shall probably know about the baby soon when they start filming in spring.
 

She's in very early pregnancy in TSOT, though, so the baby could just be seen as premature - in fact as long as they were married when the baby was born, it would be legitimate.   I'm not sure how common it was for women to keep working after marriage, never mind through pregnancy (I know some of my grandmother's generation had to give up work when they married - as in they seemed to be automatically no longer employed!). 

Of course, there's an odd timeline in the mind palace, obviously - I would tend to think that the characters are where they are in the present day, but that's not necessarily the case.   Mary could have had the baby already and left it with a nanny.   Or maybe she didn't get pregnant in Sherlock's version.  Or maybe Sherlock just didn't want to include the baby? 

We really need a commentary!