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December 8, 2015 6:32 am  #61


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Was I the only one who hadn't realised that was the last one?
I also wondered if they were setting up for a sequel...but I suppose not.
Anyhow, it was quite good and clever but yes, a bit brutal.


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December 8, 2015 7:50 am  #62


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It was a horrible scene.  I think episode one had implied

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December 8, 2015 3:46 pm  #63


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I'm assuming they used his own technology against him, based on what seemed like pattern tracking.



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December 8, 2015 4:31 pm  #64


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Clever twist.


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December 8, 2015 5:22 pm  #65


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Very good last episode with surprising twists. Loved the return of Charlotte Rampling, a wonderful actress. 


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December 8, 2015 5:56 pm  #66


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I thought she got out!


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December 8, 2015 5:57 pm  #67


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Not sure about that … 
 


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December 8, 2015 6:47 pm  #68


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December 8, 2015 6:52 pm  #69


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I agree, Liberty. 


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December 8, 2015 7:05 pm  #70


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I wasn't sure about that, Susi, but

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December 8, 2015 7:07 pm  #71


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I took it the authorities had intervened to stop it being published.


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December 8, 2015 7:11 pm  #72


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
 

December 8, 2015 7:22 pm  #73


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Yes to the former...ah, didn't think of the latter.
I took it either the recipients were leaned on, not to publish, or else the recipients didn't because of Danny having been discredited.(This was referred to, by Danny's adopted Mum I believe...'you will not be believed' etc.)


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December 8, 2015 9:58 pm  #74


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I'm sure it was the latter, Susi. To once more intimidate him and show him he's powerless and any of this knowledge will be erased.


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December 9, 2015 2:30 am  #75


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In Tumblr issues (to which everything should be taken with a grain of salt): I do know that people were upset about the unhappy ending of every homosexual in the show. But my question to that is: which of the heterosexual couples had happy endings? Aside from Danny's roommates of unidentified sexuality and the unnamed people walking down the street, who in the show left the series unrattled, at the very least? Because even the government agencies were shaken enough to


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December 9, 2015 6:34 am  #76


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Champion of universal human rights though I am, this is a TV show.
I also think you have to take it in its genre: it was a spy story, which happened to have gay characters in it and not a show about the gay community, as opposed  'Queer as folk' for instance.
Anyhow, a gay actor had no issue with acting in the series.
Do we always have to have fairy tale endings?
The main character survived, anyway.
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December 9, 2015 7:36 am  #77


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I'm pretty sure the writer is gay too.  I agree about the genre - it was meant to be dark.   The main characters happened to be gay, so when they were killed off, gay characters were killed off.  They weren't killed because they were gay, but were put at risk of being killed because of their connection to a government coverup AND because they loved somebody.   I felt the story was as much about love as it was about espionage. 

I know that there is a lack of good shows/films with gay main characters who don't come to tragic ends.  But I don't know why people would want no deaths in this particular story - it wouldn't be the same story.  (Or want to change Danny to Danielle, to make sure only straight people die).  Can't we just have main characters who happen to be gay, whatever the genre?

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December 9, 2015 8:08 am  #78


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Well said, Liberty.


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December 9, 2015 8:13 am  #79


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I fully agree, Liberty. And let me say that UK television has come far with films like this, telling a story about people who are gay but where this is not the focus but their being in love, in danger, etc. We recently had a gay police investigator in the most popular German crime show and it was big news (and he was revealed to be gay only in his last episode). Still waiting to see a story like LS over here. 


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"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

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December 9, 2015 4:44 pm  #80


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Glad we have agreement here and that the BBC(once again) is delivering the goods.


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