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BabyRose · July 15, 2015 11:18 am

@mrshouse - Thank you, Mrs House. I am appreciated that. That given me a bit relaxing now.
@SusiGo - That's it! That's the one! It's so powerful. That music in background given me goospbumps and nearly tears up because it sounded sad. It's like something missing and something that unexpected that knows Sherlock is actually alive. The video helps me to think of the visions. For e.g. you could hear John's sniffing while he was typing about Sherlock's death.

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SusiGo · July 15, 2015 11:50 am

Just one request, BabyRose - we have various threads for fanfiction recommendations, Johnlock and non-Johnlock. Please feel free to share them in there. Thank you.

http://sherlock.boardhost.com/viewforum.php?id=32

And, yes, the video is very excellent. I have not seen anything like this before.

BabyRose · July 15, 2015 2:00 pm

@SusiGo - Oops! That's right! I'm sorry but thanks for pointing it out! I deleted some parts about fanfics here and moved them into the fanfics topic. Thanks! Done as you requested.

ukaunz · July 16, 2015 1:23 am

SusiGo wrote:
This is quite interesting regarding the romantic trope it discusses. I do not know the show they mention, but I did not have to think long and hard to come up spontaneously with two examples from "Love, Actually" - Liam Neeson showing the video of his dead wife at the funeral and the best man - sorry, I forgot his name - putting together all the pics of Keira Knightley, his best friend's bride he is in love with. Clearly another romantic trope.

http://ageofaquitaine.tumblr.com/post/124133864845/its-sherlocks-missing-lover-footage

That is very interesting, and I'd never thought of it that way before either, but I think they are right. Has the trope ever been done with two platonic friends? I tried to find an example here http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HappierHomeMovie. There are a lot of examples, many of which I am unfamiliar with, but I couldn't find any b******* examples done like this. Lots of romantic partner loss, and the rest are people mourning the loss of their loved family member (blood relation) or a past happier time in their childhood.

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SusiGo · July 17, 2015 1:33 pm

Just found this again and it made me happy. Not exactly Johnlock but then ...

“He’s not a sociopath, nor is he high-functioning. He’d really like to be a sociopath. But he’s so fucking not…. He is at root an absolutely ordinary man… He’s repressed his emotions, his passions, his desires, in order to make his brain work better — in itself, a very emotional decision, and it does suggest that he must be very emotional if he thinks emotions get in the way. I just think Sherlock Holmes must be bursting!”
— Steven Moffat on Sherlock’s Best Man speech

Vhanja · July 17, 2015 1:34 pm

I think that sums up Sherlock very well, that is exactly how I view him as well. Well said, Moffat!

Also, I found this to be rather funny. Sums up first half of ASiP rather well:

http://loudest-subtext-in-television.tumblr.com/post/124257202319/sherlock-proudly-presents-his-flat-to

SusiGo · July 17, 2015 1:34 pm

Thanks, ukaunz, so it seems it is really a romantic trope after all.

SusiGo · July 17, 2015 1:35 pm

Vhanja wrote:
I think that sums up Sherlock very well, that is exactly how I view him as well. Well said, Moffat!

Also, I found this to be rather funny. Sums up first half of ASiP rather well:

http://loudest-subtext-in-television.tumblr.com/post/124257202319/sherlock-proudly-presents-his-flat-to

True. John has been an exception in very sense from the very beginning.

tonnaree · July 17, 2015 2:11 pm

Ok, Ok. I know we avoid a certain word here in our favorite thread but I had an idea for another slogan for us!

"Bromance" The "B" is silent!

SusiGo · July 17, 2015 2:16 pm

Lilythiell · July 17, 2015 2:17 pm

Hehe, approved

Oh, and do any of you know of anyone who'd say "for me" to a just-friend?

SusiGo · July 17, 2015 2:37 pm

Or "It's you. It's always you." Or "Your way. Always your way."

tonnaree · July 17, 2015 3:01 pm

I thought you guys would like it. *giggle*

Vhanja · July 17, 2015 8:26 pm

I figured this thread needed a reminder of the happy and joyful marriage reception between John and Mary...

ukaunz · July 18, 2015 8:27 am

So just keep Johnlock in mind while you listen to Steven Moffat at Comic Con:

It's all in the construction of the story in a way, before we get to the acting, it's all about the backswing that you didn't know was there... we seed every piece of information you need... you've been blindsided exactly the way Sherlock Holmes was... his affection took command of his logic... so that moment, the gut-punch moment, is easy, it's building... when a twist comes it's not that it's surprising, that is thrilling, it's the fact that you go "I should have seen it. I was told, I was told repeatedly..." And then the rug is pulled, it's like you've been warning them for ages, you know, "we're gonna pull this rug in a minute, we are, you aren't paying any attention but we are gonna pull this rug", and so when you fall over you've got to think "I was told and I didn't listen."

It reminds me of Sherlock's mind palace deduction scene at the wedding, when Sherlock realises he loves John. Johnlock has always been there, it's just that some people aren't paying attention

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Lilythiell · July 18, 2015 1:31 pm

Well spotted!
Some people are not paying attention (who are those people?). But we are.

Lilythiell · July 18, 2015 3:06 pm

http://green-eyedghost.tumblr.com/post/124321286220/so-this-sort-of-happened

Vhanja · July 18, 2015 3:11 pm

Oh, wow, that's beautiful!

mrshouse · July 18, 2015 3:14 pm

Awww.....
Well, they were indeed practicing for the wedding waltz, weren't they?

nakahara · July 18, 2015 6:51 pm

Not "our" Sherlock, but still...

http://hedgehog-goulash7.tumblr.com/post/60957831399/dr-john-hamish-watson-defining-heterosexuality