Everything Sherlock does is about John. 

5H0l3e5 wrote:

BBC ruined Sherlock: Dancing, Drinking, Be on a wedding celebration, Saying alot of jokes, Stealing, No solving even a simple case, LOVE (oh god), Laughing all the time,...
Short version: Arthor, don't forgive them.

Sherlock Holmes is not allowed to laugh? I've only read a few chapters of A Study in Scarlet and already I can see Sherlock Holmes has a sense of humour and likes to laugh.

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That's what I call science, tobe. Doing the maths and then coming to a conclusion that is just so to the point. Hopefully in the near future John will be able to do those maths, too. 

Kittyhawk wrote:

SherlocklivesinOH wrote:

......what if those clients he had on the "stag party night" spread the word? ....

I never understood why Tessa even bothered to tell her story to two obviously drunk guys... Just like I don't understand why Sherlock didn't notice that his beer was spiked, or how Molly arrived at the same quantity of alkohol for John and Sherlock, why Sherlock needed her help in the first place (I would have thought he'd have experimented some in his university days - just in the interests of research, obviously), and why he didn' provide himself with a bit of a safety net by eating something beforehand...

And could someone please explain the attraction of binge drinking? For me one hangover was enough...

It is understandable that he didn't know the beer was spiked. Sherlock doesn't seem that familiar with the taste of beer, not to mention that the taste of various types of beer can differ greatly. So either he knew it tasted differently, but just shrugged it off as a different type of beer, or he was already too drunk to notice/care about that at all. 

As for the same amount of beer for them both, I will go out on a limb here and say that it might be plausible seeing the fact that Sherlock being taller than John (thus maybe having a higher tolerance) might be even out by the fact that he drinks even more seldom than John (reducing his tolerance). So the amount for them both might be close enough for Molly to just make it the same for simplicities sake. But that's stretching it a bit.

Also, we don't know if he ate something beforehand or not. But the rest of your points are valid. Not to mention that they managed five or six beers in five or six different pubs spread across London in two hours? That is the least plausible of it all to me. (Still love the scene, though).

I do not think Sherlock was going for atmosphere or even fun (Sherlock does not quite understand the idea of a pup crawl I think, it probably just said in a book that that was what he was supposed to do as best man, so he dutifully did it). This was a very scientific pup crawl (until John spiked his drink). So two hours do not seem too off if the locations were not terribly far apart.

Yes.  Even if it wouldn't be the thing he wanted to do most, he wanted to do something nice for John that would have a personal meaning from the good times they have had together.  Not to enjoy the particular pubs' atmosphere or anything, just a pub crawl (because that's a thing to do on stag night) but with a personal touch.  And Sherlock decided to try and document it scientifically because that's what he does and maybe to also make it more interesting.  John did tell him to stop talking at one point because he didn't want to hear about all the details of the experiement (or whatever you want to call it, scientific documentation), but of course that's just something Sherlock does.  
And then of course John got mischievous and added more to Sherlock's drink without telling him, as well as looking like he took an extra shot for himself.  So much for precise measurement.

But yeah, even if he was out of his element, Sherlock was trying to be the best Best Man according to convention, as well as trying (though also failing) at using him own methods to do so.

I will always treasure drunk stag night.

Yeah.  He didn't know what else to do.  Kind of like the book that he followed for the Best Man speech.

In the spirit of scientific research I did pour a shot of Whisky (20 ml, 40%) into a beer (500 ml, 5 %). As the Whisky mostly stays on top (John didn't stir), the first swallow is noticeably different (both taste and effect) from a non-spiked beer. Further down the difference diminishes, so I suppose one would notice either immediately or not at all. And of course it was my first beer and not the seventh, as for Sherlock... (and frankly, ever since counting the pubs I find it amazing that 8 beers in 2 hours should have resulted in the guys "to remain in the sweet spot the whole evening". A little error in the calculations?)

But I have another question: Why did John and Sherlock even end up in a police cell? They weren't drunk and disorderly in public (not before being locked up, at least), they didn't break into the "ghost's" flat - I don't see them breaking any laws at all...

I would have thought that throwing up on somebody's rug was a case for the chequebook, not the police, and that the police in London had better things to do than collect drunks from private homes (even if the home in question is not actually the drunk's). Does anybody know of a similar situation in real life?

Kittyhawk wrote:

and frankly, ever since counting the pubs I find it amazing that 8 beers in 2 hours should have resulted in the guys "to remain in the sweet spot the whole evening". A little error in the calculations?

I think so. For himself at least. I mean, it's not quite pints (I think Sherlock says sth like 440ml?), but still. My limit is 7 pints (limit meaning: being able to get home on my own two feet), and that's with a meal before and being used to having a drink. I think for John, it could indeed work to remain in the sweet spot, he is used to drinking in the evening and I'm sure he had dinner before. But Sherlock? I don't think so. No matter his size.

About the police cell, I think Sherlock got into another row. And then he would end up in a cell, being drunk like that. With John being loyal to Sherlock, I can very well imagine Sherlock going into a fight, John taking sides, and them ending up in a group fight and being singled out and taken away by police. Sounds plausible to me. Also other things might have happened during the "investigation". Maybe the throwing up wasn't the end of it.

And could someone please explain the attraction of binge drinking? For me one hangover was enough...

Still thinking about that... I cannot see either what's so exciting about passing out and vomiting all over the place. Maybe it has to do with testing limits. How far to push. This kind of stuff.
For me, all hangovers I had (not only one, sadly) happened because I liked the beer and the company. Sounds stupid, I guess. But I don't know, it's the being together, and having a drink, and the evening becomes longer, so another drink and another... what I don't understand is how people plan to get hungover. That just seems silly to me. For me, being hungover is each time a bad experience I definitely didn't want to achieve but sadly wasn't able to prevent...
What I wouldn't do again is pub crawls. I don't understand them one bit. You have to hurry all the time to get to the next pub, you can never sit down and relax for a long time, and instead of having one nice place to sit you have to stand all time because each new pub is crowded. I'm not surprised John didn't like his stag night much.
 

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