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Don't you worry, I don't ship them like Johnlock, either. And I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I never will.
Because I think at this point what they both need more than anything else is just someone to give them a big hug. Constantly. Preferably once a day. Or even more often. So they should just hug each other constantly. And I know that's romantic nonsense, bit it's how I feel.
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Another guess of mine ... could it be that Hardy doesn't want to use the first names because he is afraid of an emotional relationship? And I don't mean a love affair. That he thinks with family names he can keep the distance?
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I'm sure that's at least part of the reason. It's interesting though that in S1 he says that he doesn't like his own name - Alec - and gives kind of a bizarre reason for it. And now in the first episode of S2 Claire calls him Alec and he doesn't seem to mind. What's going on between those two anyway?
I also find the moment when he stopped calling Ellie 'Miller' and called her 'Ellie' for the first time interesting. That was a moment when she was in huge emotional distress - and he reached out to her by calling her Ellie. And she immediately realised that something was wrong because he called her by her first name for the first time.
Now she still calls him 'Sir' although he says that she doesn't have to anymore. It'll be interesting to see how this develops... will they end up calling each other by their first names at the end of the S2...?
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Do you think him and Claire used to have.... something?
Yes, with using Ellie he really tried to get nearer. Maybe they come to the point using the first names even earlier. I am really looking forward to this moment.
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I'm not sure about him and Claire, it's probably too early. But this is definitely more than just 'witness protection'.
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Okay, I'll just talk to myself here for a bit, because this show is still ripping my heart out. Although the second episode of Series 2 was a bit disappointing and in my opinion the weakest episode of the show so far, episode 3 really convinced me again of the quality of the show. Apart from the fact that we finally, finally, finally saw Alec wearing a t-shirt (shallow, yes), (ALEC WEARING A T-SHIRT...!!!!)...
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I see, I have to watch ep. 2 and 3 asap.
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Yes. Definitely. Alec wearing a t-shirt and all that.
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Well, don't complain, just don't go to the forum while you're at work...
Yes, the actress is Marianne Jean-Baptiste and she is really good. You just love to hate her. She is making me sooo aggressive, I could just... punch her in the face the whole time.
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I just HAVE to ...
And to your spoiler ... that's an idea I didn't had before but yeah, quite possible.
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Solar, good point. That could work.
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Yes, I think so. And anyway, they do have a history together, they worked together. There is something going on between them we probably don't know anything about yet.
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Soo, I managed to watch all three episodes. I really like series 2 but not as much as series 1. Why? Just some points (without spoiler tags because there is a warning in the title of the thread and I am too lazy ).
- Series 1 completely focussed on the investigation into Danny's death. All personal background stories were somehow integrated into the narrative or necessary to create the right atmosphere. To me series 2 feels a bit scattered - there is the trial but also the Sandbrook backstory and the two female barristers who seem to have issues with each other. Bit much going on at the same time.
- Series 1 seemed more credible. IMO Alec hiding Claire and being constantly threatened by her husband is interesting but slightly overdone.
- I have a serious problem with Sharon's character. Too clichéd in my opinion. So far I do not understand her callous behaviour towards Ellie, Alec, and the Latimers - pure ambition? Unsolved issues with Jocelyn (who I like very much as a character and Charlotte Rampling is great). Why is she so keen on defending a man who killed a child and confessed to the murder?
- And one last point: I do not like the secret meetings between Mark and Tom. Maybe they are meant to somehow reflect the relationship between Joe and Danny but they leave a bad taste in my mouth. Basically Mark does the same thing Joe did. Using a child as a confessor, a sort of psychological or emotional crutch. I think this is actually the part I dislike most. Maybe there is a purpose to it but for know I do not like it.
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Welcome to the Former Detectives Club, Susi! (Not enough fangirling yet, my dear, but you probably haven't seen the light yet...)
I actually do agree with you on some of the points you've made. Especially the problem with the different structure in S2. I also feel that there is the danger of losing some of the tension we had practically at all times during S1. Now we have the Sandbrook case and the Latimer case, and both cases are only connected through Alec, at least up until now. It's a bit like jumping from one story to the other at times, and I hope they'll bring both stories closer together at one point - although I have no idea how.
Sharon: I don't like her at all, like I already mentioned, but for now I'll just wait and see. I'm sure there is more background story to her, and we will get it. There has to be an explanation for her aggressive behaviour, and I'm pretty sure there is one. She has a history with Jocelyn, there is something going on with her son... I hope it'll all make sense in the end.
Mark and Tom: At this point this doesn't bother me, I have to admit. Simply because I have no idea what's going on exactly. Mark seems to be with Tom quite often, at least judging by the fact that Beth very often tries to call him in vain. I don't know where this story will be going, but right now it would make sense to me if Mark used Tom as some kind of substitute for Danny. Which certainly isn't very healthy, but somehow understandable. And also, maybe Tom is using Mark as a substitute for his father...? (I have to add though that I don't have children, maybe a mother or father has completely different feelings about this.)
By the way: I don't like Claire very much. She definitely is hiding something, but whatever that may be... right now I don't like her. And I don't like the fact that she is around Ellie so much. She isn't good for Ellie, that's my feeling.
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