Yeah I saw that one I think ;).

Oh, that's hilarious . They switched on informal you in Italian version quite early, and Italian dubbing is acceptable, but Sherlock's voice is too... playful for me and of course not even close to Benedict's velvet baritone. No dubbing in Polish, there is voice-over, frankly rather awful (sometimes they manage an "invisible" version, but not here). 

I think that apart from the voice as such, in a dubbed version it is almost impossible to convey emotions in the exact same way as they were intended in the original version. Let's face it, it's two different actors, and the one who does the dubbing will never be able to do exactly what the original actor did - even if the translation is flawless.

When I saw AOC in the dubbed version (yeah, I know... ) I was so disappointed...! Little Charles comes across so differently in the German version, especially in the scene in front of the television which leads to him singing that song. The scene starts with him being so crushed and sad and resigned, and Benedict's voice is almost inaudible at times, isn't it? But his German voice is far too firm and just not... fragile enough. I was sitting there in my seat, thinking "Great, that's how you can ruin a scene".

It sometimes even has some sort of a 'studio sound' to it, if you know what I mean.
And I mean, we do have very good actors who do dubbing in Germany, and still.... it's just not the same. I have arguments about that with my boyfriend on a regular basis, because we have to watch everything in German because his English isn't good enough and he doesn't want to read subtitles (which I can understand, it's just distracting). We sometimes watch movies that he knows by heart in English, and when we do he always admits that yes, that's good, that's better than the dubbed version. There you go...

I urge you all to watch "The Towering Inferno" ("Flammendes Inferno") in the new dubbed version if you ever have the chance. It's a crime, really. I don't know why, but they re-dubbed it and released it on DVD, and you just wanna cringe constantly at the voices of Paul Newman and Steve McQueen. The worst I have ever heard in my life when it comes to dubbing! Go and read some of the reviews at amazon.de, people are outraged...!

I first watched Sherlock in Russian and I must say that I like quite well. I even did not know whether it was in our (Czech) TV as well. So I told my mum that there are those wonderful series and she made a face and she told me that she watched a part of it but she was not interested, and particullary she could not stand Sherlock. I could not believe that so I found some scenes in Czech which is my original language and it was SO AWFUL, I mean Sherlock's voice really makes him so strange (in a bad way), like some imitation or what. I understand that they probably tried to imitate the posh accent or whatever, but in Czech nobody speaks that way, it's simply ridiculous. I don't wonder why she did not like it. 
Of course the original is the best, but I must admit that my English is not good enough to catch it all. Of course I'm able to understand what's going on on the screen but I miss so many jokes and great lines in general, that I prefer the Russian version which in my opinion is pretty good and I also like Sherlock's voice, though not as much as the original of course :-)

To take up the cudgels for the German synchronization (synchronization in general).  My English skills are not the best to be honest. And I'm glad that there is synchronization.
Sure you could keep the original version and simply subtitles.
But you can also translate everything and sat comfortably in the armchairs and get it immediately. Indeed, it is very tiring if you want to read and watch at the same time what happens. Especially when talk so fast and a lot, as in "Sherlock". You missed quite a bit. Somehow this is never satisfying for me.

I mean, who cares anyway get the DVD etc and look at the original, as I do. Then I can also (after I watched  it in my language) listen relaxed to the really brilliant voices of Mark Gatiss, BC and Martin Freeman etc .
Of course I agree with the fact that a dubbed version is always phony and only an imitation. 
But a huge help for a lot of people.
 

Last edited by TheWomanWoman (March 24, 2014 6:52 pm)

I  agree and I see its odd. But to me it is ok. Because they are in series 1 and 2 more acquaintance in the beginning then later on friends but not close until the end. I am quite sure they are going to turn the formal "Sie" into "Du" in series 3.
But to me it is also funny when they address formally but fight like old friends like in Scandal in Belgravia "I had bad days" -scene.

well use subtitles, I always do ;) and trust me, you will get used to the accent and then you have problems with the american one

In my country there was no dubbed version but on TV it was with lector. I couldn't stand this for one minute, I know that in public television films and series have to have lector but it was totally awful

SHERlocked33 wrote:

zeratul wrote:

well use subtitles

The problem with using subtitles is that then I concentrate too much on them.
 

I had the same problem, but after watching series 3 or 4 times I remember exactly what characters were saying and finally could focus on actors play

Yes, exactly. One person is translating all characters, usually with the same bored and slow tone even if the character is for example shouting (really). In Poland that is the most common way of translating films and series on public televsion. And if dubbing exist it's usually even worse than the lector. Of course there some exceptions but not many. That's why I don't watch films and series on TV.