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WhoIWantToBe · January 17, 2017 7:29 am

besleybean wrote:
Molly is called in to babysit.

Well in that case I hope they pay Molly handsomely, she is rather over qualified for that line work

ewige · January 17, 2017 7:43 am

besleybean wrote:
I've replied to this on another thread and this forum doesn't allow me to copy and paste, so I'll type it all again!
John and Rosie were visiting 221 B.
Greg turns up wanting help on a case.
Molly is called in to babysit.

If she's called in to babysit in 221b that it's surely safe for children? ;)
The point is that we don't know where John and Rosie live. It's more practical and plausible for them to move in with Sherlock, tho.

Schmiezi · January 17, 2017 8:11 am

After watching TFP only once I think it is left so vage thst we all can basically believe what we like. :-)

I like to believe in parentlock at 221b because it makes me happy. :-)

Preceja · January 17, 2017 8:14 am

Baker street is not only not suitable for a child, it is dangerous and in reallity it is not possible unless there is somebody with the child in every moment which prevents from any other work . I do not think that John being a doctor does not realise it. But it is a show and they did not have to think about it for one scene. Next time, if there is any, Rosie will be at least 5.

gently69 · January 17, 2017 8:27 am

WhoIWantToBe wrote:
besleybean wrote:
Molly is called in to babysit.
Well in that case I hope they pay Molly handsomely, she is rather over qualified for that line work

And Molly has a job as well.

ewige · January 17, 2017 8:31 am

Mrs. Hudson doesn't

And anyway, Rosie is probably good for Sherlock's moods, he'll never be bored anymore!

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Vhanja · January 17, 2017 9:46 am

Schmiezi wrote:
After watching TFP only once I think it is left so vage thst we all can basically believe what we like. :-)

I've watched it twice and agree with that assessment. This season, TFP in particular, has been left so vague that you could easily interpret nonlock, parentlock/Johnlock, Sherlolly, Sherlock/Irene - and even Mystrade!

And I also think John moved in to 221b once it was restored. Of course he did - that's where he belongs.

ewige · January 17, 2017 9:56 am

Vhanja wrote:
Schmiezi wrote:
After watching TFP only once I think it is left so vage thst we all can basically believe what we like. :-)
I've watched it twice and agree with that assessment. This season, TFP in particular, has been left so vague that you could easily interpret nonlock, parentlock/Johnlock, Sherlolly, Sherlock/Irene - and even Mystrade!

And I also think John moved in to 221b once it was restored. Of course he did - that's where he belongs.

I agree with you on all accounts.

January 17, 2017 4:11 pm

I´m really really glad I managed to see it without any spoilers.

I was at the edge of my seat practically the whole time.

I think I´m going to love this when I had the time to think about it

I am relieved Mycroft survived, I was really worried for him.

Meggie K · January 17, 2017 4:29 pm

All is forgiven- near the end, when the whole Holmes family is sitting, watching Sherlock and Euros play, Mama Holmes reaches over and pats Mycroft's hand.Sweet.

ancientsgate · January 17, 2017 4:37 pm

tonnaree wrote:
From what we are shown at the end of the episode it is entirely possible that John and Rosie HAVE moved into Baker Street. There is nothing to rule it out. The scene in John and Mary's old place was earlier and before they started restoring 221b.
I'm just saying that it is possible.

They could as easily have just been visiting Uncle Sher. 221b is no place for a child of any age; we've seen that only too clearly. But alas, it's all pretend anyway, and if they showed them living together again, it would only be the writers toying with our heads and our hearts. Nothing would be reality or as it seems, or maybe it'd all be in Sherlock's mind palace or some foolishness. So I'll just make up something that pleases me, and pretend that's what they meant all along.

ancientsgate · January 17, 2017 4:41 pm

ewige wrote:
About it [221b] not being suitable - people make do! My place hadn't been good for children from the very first day but we got there eventually. Besides, they have a live-in babysitter. That's more than most working parents can say.

But surely you don't have people using a drone to deliver a hand grenade. Or bad guys coming in to take a loved one hostage, tie them up and point guns at them in the living room. Or refrigerated heads on a platter in the ice box. Or various fungi bubbling away on the stove. 221b is REALLY not good for most anyone, especially kids.

NicoleCollard · January 17, 2017 7:30 pm

ancientsgate wrote:
ewige wrote:
About it [221b] not being suitable - people make do! My place hadn't been good for children from the very first day but we got there eventually. Besides, they have a live-in babysitter. That's more than most working parents can say.
But surely you don't have people using a drone to deliver a hand grenade. Or bad guys coming in to take a loved one hostage, tie them up and point guns at them in the living room. Or refrigerated heads on a platter in the ice box. Or various fungi bubbling away on the stove. 221b is REALLY not good for most anyone, especially kids.

If the bad guys want to attack John, they could do it at any other place as well, not only at Baker Street. If we assume he kept the house he bought/rented with Mary, a drone could be sent there as well, since he's still solving crimes with Sherlock.

besleybean · January 17, 2017 7:32 pm

But John wasn't the target, was he?

tonnaree · January 17, 2017 7:34 pm

No, but John has been the target before and he could easily be again.

besleybean · January 17, 2017 7:36 pm

Only really Jim or I suppose CAM who targeted him.

NicoleCollard · January 17, 2017 7:37 pm

Sherlock is usually the target, but it wouldn't be the first time John is used by the bad guys to get to Sherlock (pressure point...)

ancientsgate · January 17, 2017 10:59 pm

NicoleCollard wrote:
If the bad guys want to attack John, they could do it at any other place as well, not only at Baker Street. If we assume he kept the house he bought/rented with Mary, a drone could be sent there as well, since he's still solving crimes with Sherlock.

Of course, but the show is all we've ever seen of them, most of the time they've been at 221b, and having S and J together in the same residence is like a bad guy magnet. With the baby in John's house, presumably she'd be with a nanny while he did his doctoring and chasing after Sherlock, and probably safer there in her own house. I'm sure 6,000 fan fics will be written about this, if anyone ever wanted to delver into the subject of "what happens after".

kgreen20 · January 18, 2017 12:20 am

But who would pay the nanny? John can't afford to; he's not rich.

tonnaree · January 18, 2017 12:32 am

kgreen20 wrote:
But who would pay the nanny? John can't afford to; he's not rich.

Uncle Mycroft.