Series Four News » Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers) » June 14, 2016 9:30 pm |
SusiGo wrote:
No idea. Have a look:
My whole dash is full of purple bridges and pink London Eyes.
So exciting! I mean, it's cool to notice such details in the eps after the fact, but (almost) being there for the process is just!... *bouncy*
Did they influence the coloring somehow? Or is there a predictable rotation of colors? *london illiterate here*
Series Four News » Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers) » June 13, 2016 8:53 am |
Drama! Excitement! Mystery!
Setlock is just as much fun as the show itself.
Thank you GimmeCat for the reports.
Series Four News » Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers) » June 12, 2016 8:14 pm |
Debating here too.
I think I won't read it. Some suspence should remain, after all. Setlock pictures are more spoilers already than I've ever had.
Other » Homophobia in Fandom* » June 12, 2016 3:18 pm |
I've never for a second thought they're queerbaiting. I'm just trying to explain myself how other people (maybe with a very superficial knowledge of the show?) might think that. Such peolple will see light only if Mofftiss deliver in the end or - I don't know what the equivalent would be for "just" a male friendship. Maybe Sherlock admitting to his asexuality? But where's the mystery in it, where's the drama?
I figure show creators have no way to make everybody happy. Let's hope fandom doesn't prevent them from telling THEIR story (full circle to the first post in this thread). I'd love to see their vision play out, even if it doesn't include johnlock
Other » Homophobia in Fandom* » June 12, 2016 3:01 pm |
"...a queer relationship or character is hinted at to attract/appeal to the queer market, and then is denied, either modifying the character's behavior (making them enter an opposite gender relationship), playing it off as a joke (sometimes a recurring joke or trope), or denying the assumptions (in interviews, panels and such) without modifying the character's behavior."
Uh, guilty on all accounts - apart from the first one. I will never believe Mofftiss did it for money, and I do believe they have a greater plan and want to take it slowly, hence the repeated denial in the media.
Series Four News » Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers) » June 12, 2016 2:53 pm |
besleybean wrote:
The flat is often empty(and for sale) during series.
But there have been residents there during filming and they allow access to the door and hallway
So awesome!
I really hope some of these people are Sherlock fans so that all the glory of the situation doesn't go unappreciated!
Other » Homophobia in Fandom* » June 12, 2016 2:48 pm |
I can only chalk that up to her lack of faith in Mofftiss. Maybe she also had unpleasant experiences with other shows.
I mean, there is no evidence whatsoever that would support queer-baiting on Sherlock. Johnlockers see the slow progress towards their Happy End, others see a very special friendship. Everybody's happy, right?
Series Four News » Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers) » June 12, 2016 2:35 pm |
People deny stuff all the time just because they have no idea. Just sayin.
Meanwhile in 2___ Baker Street...
Does anybody actually live here? Where do these people go during setlock? Or is it empty all the years between Sherlock seasons?
Other » Homophobia in Fandom* » June 12, 2016 10:27 am |
besleybean wrote:
For me, even worse than that, is accusing the Sherlock team of queer-baiting.
I remember reading up on that because I've never seen the term before. The examples of shows given were so... shallow. Like, let's make somebody gay. For drama, ratings, and because it's considered cool. Smacked of disrespect from the show writers.
Mofftiss love John and Sherlock too much to be ever seriously suspected in queer-baiting. Obviously.
Other » Homophobia in Fandom* » June 12, 2016 10:17 am |
besleybean wrote:
...
On your final point.
No, it doesn't matter at all.
Except in any instance you feel you are being accused of homophobia, just because you don't happen to see a gay paring.
Great point. There is a huge difference between simply not seeing characters that way and being homophobic.
This is why I think I've never met homophobic people in the fandom: they just wouldn't stick around.
Other » Homophobia in Fandom* » June 10, 2016 2:15 pm |
I'm all for stats but we're just a tiny (and skewed) sample. Besides, not all users are slashers. Not all users identify on the usual scale of sexuality or wish to provide all answers or to participate at all.
It would be great to start a poll on ao3 with fewer questions but a larger sample.
Series Four Suggestions & Ideas » The Tie Conundrum, and why S4 can't be trusted (Meta, Theory, SPOILER) » June 9, 2016 8:56 am |
Phew, ok.
*needs to take a closer look at that plant just in case, tho*
Series Four Suggestions & Ideas » The Tie Conundrum, and why S4 can't be trusted (Meta, Theory, SPOILER) » June 9, 2016 8:17 am |
SusiGo wrote:
When Sherlock is falling backwards after being shot, you can see a potted plant sliding in the background to make it seem as if the whole room was tilting and not just Sherlock. I think potted plant is the correct word.
Of course this is not evidence used for MP theories. It is just a nice visual trick.
Oh, thanks for the explanation! I remember they said something about pulling it with a fishing line. But how would the innocent plant fit into the MP theory? O.o
Other » Homophobia in Fandom* » June 9, 2016 8:14 am |
besleybean wrote:
why are fan girls obsessed with seeing hot male leads get it on?
I saw a fair amount of slash in my pre-Sherlock days and never really got it (pre-Sherlock, *eye roll*). Whenever I asked my friends why they shipped Kirk/Spock, Harry/Draco etc, the reply was that the dynamics between the characters was just so very fascinating. None said anything about gay sex, altho it would be a natural progression of a relationship for many fans.
This is why I can barely wrap my mind about show fans being homophobic. Shipping a same-sex couple seems to be mostly about their chemistry, just like any other couple on screen. Nobody needs to think about sex if they don't want to.
Series Four Suggestions & Ideas » The Tie Conundrum, and why S4 can't be trusted (Meta, Theory, SPOILER) » June 9, 2016 7:59 am |
SusiGo wrote:
Lovely is the fandom that can laugh about themselves (and the writers):
I've just read it :D
What's a houseplant?
Series Four Suggestions & Ideas » The Tie Conundrum, and why S4 can't be trusted (Meta, Theory, SPOILER) » June 9, 2016 7:40 am |
Sherlock killing CAM is the best love confession ever. So I totally hope that happened for real.
I just love the way Moftiss resolved TRF (where I too thought they'd written themselves in a corner) so I have the faith they'll do great with all the weird stuff that needs resolving this season
Series Four Suggestions & Ideas » The Tie Conundrum, and why S4 can't be trusted (Meta, Theory, SPOILER) » June 9, 2016 6:30 am |
SolarSystem wrote:
I'm afraid Mofftiss might continue to use MP whenever things wouldn't add up otherwise.
My other (sci-fi) fandoms use the reset button quite a lot due to their very nature (oh, it's a parallel universe - or a clone - or a mind possession - or an alien-induced dream - so scratch the last ep kids, it's actually never happened). I trust Moftiss are quite familiar with this plot device and have no great respect for it when used as a cop out.
I believe the will keep telling us something new thru the MP sequences, sure, but never use it as a reset button (to make Mary un-pregnant for example). They are way too classy for that. And they have a plan.
Series Four Suggestions & Ideas » The Tie Conundrum, and why S4 can't be trusted (Meta, Theory, SPOILER) » June 8, 2016 9:07 pm |
Declaring a whole ep happening in MP won't work twice.
It can happen of course that all the baby stuff in E1 will takes 2 minutes of screen time and happens in Sherlock's MP, but... meh. That's a cheap cop out. Our heroes need to deal with the situation in the real world (baby, Mary, lonely 221B...), MP just doesn't have the same drama attached to it since it's not real.
And in the setlock thread we are definitely jumping on the MP explanation every time something doesn't add up The universe (and the writers) is (hopefully) rarely so lazy.
Series Four Suggestions & Ideas » The Tie Conundrum, and why S4 can't be trusted (Meta, Theory, SPOILER) » June 8, 2016 8:22 pm |
People tend to explain too much with MP these days. Having your character wake up all of a sudden in the end is the sort of a reset button that self-respecting writers push only once.
I too think that Moftiss have written themselves into a corner but I have all the trust in them to know the perfect(ly unexpected) way out, because I think they've been planning all that well in advance. Being written into a corner with a shitty explanation in the end usually happens to shows where every episode is written by a different writer with no particular respect for continuity.
Other » Homophobia in Fandom* » June 8, 2016 6:30 pm |
Oddly enough, I haven't met any homophobia in the fandom. Probably because the show had a certain rainbow vibe from the get go so that homophobic people have been filtered out right away and never really made it into the fandom?
But maybe I'm just talking to all the right people (seriously, haven't met a homophobic fan in any of my fandoms...)