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Character Analysis » Mycrofts sexuality » May 23, 2013 8:22 pm

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That is actually the problem with this theory isn't it? Mycroft certainly seems to be suggesting that there is something going on between John and Sherlock. There's a few times he suggests this, now I think of it. So unless literally every character on Sherlock is gay except possibly Mrs Hudson, it might simply be that this is a reverse dig.
 

Character Analysis » Mycrofts sexuality » May 23, 2013 8:12 pm

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and in Buckingham Palace too. Wow.

Character Analysis » Mycrofts sexuality » May 23, 2013 7:48 pm

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yk, I like that teory too

and I also like the other possibility-that Irene actually did just like Sherlock. 

I think its the way Mycroft says it that makes me think he is deadly serious and what he's saying isn't controversial at all to either of them. And the fact that Sherlock doens't respond iirc. If one of my siblings said that to me I'd have something to say back.

Character Analysis » Mycrofts sexuality » May 23, 2013 7:39 pm

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yes I think this is how I would see it

If Mycroft isn't gay then Sherlock isn't a virgin.

This seems pretty unlikely for two reasons. Firstly, him. Secondly, the point of that particular story, to my mind, is that Sherlock by the end of it is a whole lot less sexually naive.

There's another point I'd forgotten. Mycroft is entirely, completely, unimpressed by Irene. And she doesn't even try to seduce him. Remember she'd been told how to play them both. She knew there was no point in trying to seduce Mycroft but that this would work with Sherlock. Given that this is Sherlock , that's quite a big deal. It basically says that Mycroft is un-seducable by a woman, to me.

Character Analysis » Mycrofts sexuality » May 23, 2013 7:26 pm

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Yeah, it was an interview, BB glad you remember it too. I think its pretty well known in the fandom and Gatiss has certainly done nothing to refute it. But honestly, I cannot reference every single interview with everyone I've ever read. Really, can you? Really? The reason for that is that, to me, its not a shocking or amazing revelation.Yeah he's probably gay. And? Who cares? Why does it matter?

There are so many wild theories in the Sherlock fandom. This is hardly the most controversial.  I'd say that the idea that the ring belonged to his dead father is rather more tenuous. We don't even know his father is dead. And tbh, in the UK, people don't normally wear their dad's rings. And yet the idea that Mycroft might be gay is the one considered so out there that we're being asked for evidence? Seriously?

Isn't it interesting what people ask for interview evidence to corroborate? 

Character Analysis » Mycrofts sexuality » May 23, 2013 8:07 am

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I think Mark Gatiss, who after all is both the writer and the actor, has made a statement regarding Mycroft's sexuality, no? The only thing telling against that would be that he has an attractive opposite sex assistant, which - well, I dunno, it doesn't seem like a strong argument. 

Re the rings. First off, in the UK nowadays married gay couples actually mainly wear their rings on the left hand. In the past, it would have been more normal to wear them on the right, but that was partly in protest that it was not legal. Mark Gatiss, as a married gay man, will be aware of this.

Second, its not just Mycroft who wears the ring. Anthea, and one of the doctors who pulls John's hand away from Sherlock, also wear them. So that says secret service (or whatever, yeah I know-"spy on people for money"). Either that or a rather out of date underground gay protest group.

I also think, to a British audience, the "here to see the Queen" thing really does mean only one thing, it is a very clear dig at Mycroft's sexuality. Sherlock could possibly be implying he was closeted or acted like a gay man. But in context there is no way that that could be a suggestion he was somehow in charge. And I have to say, I could be wrong, but my instinct is that Sherlock wouldn't be especially likely to use "gay" as an insult per se. To use it of his brother who he knows to be gay is much tamer than to use it as an insult cold, iyswim.

Sherlock Games » Sherlock Quotes Hangman » May 20, 2013 8:39 pm

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aw Marheri, have another go, go on.

It is a good quote actually. 

 

Sherlock Games » Sherlock Quotes Hangman » May 19, 2013 10:31 am

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Marheri, is the quote "the hands were correct but the date was not?"

If so, are you sure that's a quote from the series?

ETA Mahari just in case you've misquoted, please don't worry, I did it myself a while back, just take another go  . And if I'm wrong, by the way, and the quote is there, apologies.

Sherlock Games » Sherlock Quotes Hangman » May 19, 2013 10:15 am

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ah, I can't find it. Honestly, at this point I've actually resorted to doing a search, that's how much its puzzling me (normally I have a sense of what it will be and then check the exact wording to make sure its correct). So I for one give up, I can't find it.

Sherlock Games » Sherlock Quotes Hangman » May 19, 2013 10:11 am

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Isn't the quote something like the time was right but the date was wrong? It doesn't say "hands", for example, either.

I'll admit to being really puzzled by this one, I even went through a few of the transcripts but couldn't find anything that matched. So I'm intrigued! 

Sherlock Games » Sherlock Quotes Hangman » May 14, 2013 8:56 am

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tbh though I am not too bothered if its already been done. We've had so many now :-)

 

Sherlock Games » Sherlock Quotes Hangman » May 12, 2013 8:00 am

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:-)

Not around today though. Someone else take my turn :-)

Sherlock Games » Sherlock Quotes Hangman » May 11, 2013 7:03 pm

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fancy a biscuit with that?

Meet The Members » Questions for Londoners. We are coming for a visit. » April 29, 2013 8:34 am

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oh god if you have no kids DEFINATELY the train. Without kids it will be actually enjoyable! Re the tickets they go up a lot in price the closer you get to the date-and it can be a LOT, like £150 each as opposed to £30. Sure you can book from abroad-you usually have a collect at station option. TBH if all else failed and the train turned out to be amazingly stupidly expensive there is a coach too, and its fine, and much cheaper. 

The rift is five minutes walk from the Dr Who experience and very easy to find. The entrance to the Torchwod hub is also easy to find as it is plastered with "Ianto lives" graffiti, messages and so on :-). There is actually almost no signposting in Cardiff for unofficial Dr Who/Sherlock stuff, for some reason, so its worth checking into this stuff before you arrive.

They seemed to film quite a lot down there for the first few seasons, so the church in "Fathers Day", the estate where Rose lives (mainly). Torchwood tends to film a lot in Cardiff centre, its rarer for them to film local to the hub, but the centre is a short train ride away.

Oh also just realised they are now filiming Sherlock at Roath Lock studios, I believe. Think you'd be able to see them at least from the "hub"-they are pretty distinctive/

Meet The Members » Questions for Londoners. We are coming for a visit. » April 28, 2013 7:41 am

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tardis wardrobe-just had a look at a few. Honestly, I'd say they'd be pretty easy to make! Or at least mod an existing wardrobe. Certainly for the amount it would cost to buy and ship it back.

Meet The Members » Questions for Londoners. We are coming for a visit. » April 28, 2013 7:38 am

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Ok I am a Londoner living in Cardiff. My 2c

Really no point drivving in London. The public transport system is excellent and cheap and driving is discouraged anyway with the congestion charge. The Tube is a lot of fun but my tip would bo to make sure you also take buses and overground trains because that's a really good way to see London as well. 

Cardiff to London is doable, I do it all the time. It depends on your budget but the train is quick, around 2-3 hours, and takes you into central Cardiff. There are times to take the train and times not-say if you want more info (basically, try to go off peak and/or upgrade to first class-its pretty cheap to do this) . To get cheap intercity tickets you can book in advance. I've been to London and back for £20 but that's booking aeons in advance and a fixed ticket. Depending on how many kids you have, a family railcard might be cheaper.What I'd say is that if you have Doctor Who fans, Cardiff might well be worth a visit. Its location shots are mainly filmed here and a fair number of the locations are easily accessible from the station. I'd have thought there would be a tour actually. That might be the point at which renting a car (with sat nav!) would be worthwhile. You could do a lot of Dr Who locations in a day, certainly, the city is crammed with them (my kids are better at spotting them than me!) . There's the Dr Who experience too, which is easy enough to get to. Sherlock is a bit different. There certainly are locations you could go to and several of them are central (eg the museum) but because London is so important in Sherlock, a lot of the location filming happens there while afaik a lot of the Cardiff filming is studio work. I don't think you can do any kind of tours and tbh, if the studio is where I think it is its not very interesting to drive past or anything. Cardiff really hasn't jumped on either the Dr Who or Sherlock tourism bandwagon at all, its all there but you have to do the legwork.

Sherlock Games » Sherlock Quotes Hangman » April 26, 2013 8:04 am

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I'm not on here much today-anyone else want a go?

I think its just chance really re whether its too easy. Once B and G were guessed, there actually are not that many English words I can think of with that pattern of letters and its something that refers to quite a specific situation so once you have "bulge" as a possibility, its easy to guess :-) . It really is all chance. 

Also my son is working through the episodes right now and it happened that I'd recently watched that one with him :-)

Sherlock Games » Sherlock Quotes Hangman » April 25, 2013 9:58 pm

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and theres a smudge of ink on your wrist and a bulge in your left jacket pocket

Series Three News » The game is on again (OFFICIAL NEWS ONLY PLEASE) » April 25, 2013 10:10 am

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sorry could someone explain what is going on? People in the Sherlock fandom are handing out death threats? Why on earth would they be doing this in the context of what is clearly a tv show? Sorry to be behind but I'm too old for twitter ;-)

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