Pav wrote:

It always makes me illogically happy when I convince someone to watch Sherlock or other Ben's things and they say that Sherlock is great and Ben is lovely.

I feel the same. I shouldn't be, because then they start borrowing my beloved DVDs and start asking me truly old questions about series 1... but all I can think is: yesss another one hug them!

Sleepless, just wondering about time zones... when is the busiest time here in the forum = when is everybody (more or less) awake? it feels quiet here now, but by my calculation, the other side of the world should be wide awake...

And thanks for the spider videos, SolarSystem and Titania! I know I should feel about them like in the first vid, but I always expect the second vid scenario ^^

Schmiezi wrote:

With a show as carefully written and equipped as Sherlock, I think it could easily be both.

Read that as "carefully equipped Sherlock" and hat a laughing fit. Enough drinks for tonight, apparently...
 

I imagine to be Harry somewhat of an opposite to John.
Small, yes, because John is too.
But less reserved, outgoing (rather too much), expressive, talkative...
I picture her as noisy, and a bit annoying, but I don't know why.
Also in my mind she's always dark-haired. And not very slim.
And I think she has affection for John (and he for her), but they just cannot make it work.
I like to think Mrs. Hudson would get along with her, also maybe Molly and Lestrade, but not John, Sherlock and Mary.

(on that note, I just realise I would really appreciate a female character in the show with a name that doesn't end on -y )

Sherlock: "That desperate to stay close to me, were you?"
John: "Just shut up and get us out of here"

 

I'm nearly 28 and still in uni. Many young people around, but I realised that age can give you an advantage in realising what's important stuff to put in your head and what isn't. Also, as said above, you probably know what you're doing it for. Also, I have made friends there who are years younger than me... they sometimes seem very young to me (being up to 7 years younger), but it doesn't really matter because they're great friends and age does not matter, if we can look past it. And don't feel chained to your desk - better tell yourself you're doing it because you *want* to... because it's what you chose and really want to get to understand. I totally freak out when I feel locked in in my room in front of my desk, but when I tell myself it's a choice I made voluntarily, the feeling vanishes mostly.
So don't be terrified, enjoy your new start
 

shycroft wrote:

So I know that John says he's forgiven her, but to me the forgiveness scene just didn't sit well with me. Theres two different theories swirling around in my head.

1. John really has, in his mind, forgiven her.
or
2. His forgiveness is utter BS, and part of a larger plan we don't know about. Let me explain:
John has serious trust issues. ...

Okay, the second theory seems convincing enough. Have been thinking about John's trust issues, too. What made me lean towards the first option, John truly forgiving her, is the way he seems inconsistent in his trust issues. He shouldn't at all be able to trust Sherlock after knowing him for one day - yet he does. On the one hand he has big trust issues, on the other hand he is ready to trust very quickly for no reason we know. I'm just not so sure John is really that easy to read. To me it seems that sometimes, he just *wants* to trust somebody (in this case: Mary) and tries to push aside all his fears and doubts just for the sake of it. Which surely isn't healthy, but maybe that's his attempt at trying to lead a "normal" life (which he doesn't really want, we know that, but does he know it too?).

The way the second theory could go puzzles me. Wouldn't it imply that John and Sherlock have been talking in detail about Mary, come up with a plan, and don't trust her at all? First, I cannot really see John and Sherlock are yet in such a place again where they would happily plot together against John's wife, and second, Sherlock knows Mary is dangerous yet he leaves John in her company without warning him off (which he definitely would do, if he had read the USB, knew some really bad stuff about her, and was worried about John).

The only possibility that comes to mind is that John and Sherlock are playing two different games with Mary, and don't know what the other knows or doesn't know. But Sherlock was so straightforward to push John to get to know Marys real self, why would he now keep John in the dark?

Mattlocked wrote:

Why do we have two Baby-Watson threads now?
Just asking................

Because it's just THAT annoying...

:D

BrettHolmes wrote:

I hope that Mofftiss know what they are doing but I think they have painted themselves into a corner with this and not in a good way.

I think they have to proof now what they can do. But I'm sure they thought about a resolution already. It would be stupid to just throw something in and not know how to get things working with that turn of story. They're too professional for that I suppose.
I'm just worried that I won't like their resolution for the baby problem... because series 3 had also elements which weren't exactly my cup of tea.

Why don't they get Molly pregnant. I'd love that.
 

La Jolie wrote:

I like the idea that leaving it lying around was Mycroft's go-ahead for Sherlock (whatever Sherlock was planning). That would also mean that he knew that telling Sherlock to keep off Magnussen would have the opposite effect. In that case, you could read their conversation outside the house ("your loss would break my heart") as Mycroft telling Sherlock something like "I know I can't stop you, so just be careful, and good luck". One might even assume that Mycroft was very well aware that there was "something in the punch", but drank it all the same because he trusted Sherlock to handle things well.

And why do I think that? Because they smoke together, which they only do at very critical, pivotal moments in their life (as in the Morgue in ASIB after Irene's "death"). Sherlock of course knew that there was a pivotal point coming, but if Mycroft didn't know it and wasn't supposed to know it, it would have made him very suspicious, and he would surely have commented on it. But he doesn't. He just joins in. Although he isn't entirely comfortable with the plan ("this isn't agreeing with me"). 

I'm not so sure about the smoking, although it's true... they don't seem to share a smoke except in very special circumstances (or that's what we are shown). But I also thought, maybe at home at their parents place they would slip into old behaviour and habits, and I read the scene as "god, we both hate this christmas business at home, let's escape and have a smoke which we don't usually do but here we are for once suffering the same".

I agree with you that all of Mycrofts lines are very suggestive of something big coming on. I still don't fully believe Mycroft would trust Sherlock as much to the point he lets himself be knowingly drugged while Sherlock handles Magnusson.
Can Mycroft be sure at that point that Sherlock is clean of drugs, in full possession of all his usual cleverness, and having a very good plan? I'm not sure. Sherlock seems unstable in most

maryagrawatson wrote:

Liberty wrote:

The laptop does feel like a setup.

It does indeed. Remember this exchange:

"Mikey is this your laptop?"
"Upon which depends the security of the free world, yes, and you've got potatoes on it!"
"Well, you shouldn’t leave it lying around if it’s so important."

Why does he just leave it lying around? And what's with Sherlock's surreptious glance up during this exchange?

Very suspicious indeed...

Mary

I try to believe that Mycroft has a bit of trust left for Sherlock, so wouldn't suspect that sherlock just sells out all this secrets. He just basically tells Sherlock in the same scene that he really loves him.
It depends on how much Sherlock really is loyal to Mycrot, no? But I think Sherlock is up for the game, and he has no intention to ever let Magnusson really GET to the contents of Mycrofts laptop, he's just using it as a tool. That's how the scene reads to me.
But it is really bizarre - Mycroft letting government stuff lying round on his parents table as if he doesn't care (when he is very secret and fussing about his stuff usually), and Sherlock drugging his own parents and brother and friends wife...
Even if Mycroft was in on Sherlocks plan, he would object to being drugged, wouldn't he... cannot really see that as deliberate.