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Random Sherlockiana » Sample CV for Sherlock Holmes » September 6, 2012 9:29 pm

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Love this quote from CV:

My father frequently tells me that there are basically two kinds of people in this world: those who present the problems and those who present the solutions.

Further proof that Sherlock is never the problem

Series Three Suggestions & Ideas » How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead? » September 6, 2012 9:19 pm

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Actually, the biggest mistake that I made which no one has yet called me out on is the fact that in scenario one, Sherlock refers to John as Watson! In the BBC series, this does not happen. But I'm so used to thinking about him as Watson that it just slipped out in the dialogue sequence

Series Three Suggestions & Ideas » How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead? » September 6, 2012 9:10 pm

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Davina wrote:

Sorry. Am I being dim here. Why would he ask for two sugars when he doesn't take sugar?

I wanted there to be something that John doesn't normally do but is doing in Sherlock's absence for Sherlock to catch him out on at the start of that particular scenario. I assumed that John is normally a tea drinker so him drinking coffee would be different & would arouse a remark from Sherlock. In hind sight, I should have got Sherlock to comment on the sugar instead. It's because I'm not as observant as Sherlock is. The real Sherlock (the character not Benedict ) would have commented on both the coffee & the sugar, thus showing how much more observant he is than the uber ringed gas giant.

Suggestions, Questions & Technical Help » How come Benedict gets three forums & the others only get one? » September 6, 2012 12:22 pm

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I love him to bits too but if I were Martin Freeman, I would get very depressed at the stats I love this quote from Martin (on a chat show): No, the notion that he got me onto The Hobbit makes me want to kill everyone in this room (this bit is word for word). I got me on The Hobbit because I auditioned for it. He got himself on The Hobbit because he auditioned for it too (this bit is paraphrased).

Other Adaptations » Amazing Detective Di (Chinese Sherlock) » September 6, 2012 12:07 pm

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They're not really books (don't know if they are based on novels). They are a Mandarin TV show. 3 seasons. Each season has two story arcs which span roughly half a season each so six stories have been told in total. The inspector/detective Di Ren Jie is a real person from Chinese history with very embellished stories told on the TV show

The reason it reminded me of Sherlock Holmes is because on the show, the inspector/detective, goes out of his way to talk you through crime scenes that he has stumbled upon in a completely logical/detached way which is not the norm for its genre (usually you get a big lecture on duty & loyalty to king & country (Communist propaganda maybe?) but not the case here. Here he talks you through his reasoning & his deductions first AND THEN he alludes to the importance of duty & loyalty to king & country, lol).

Basically the point I was trying to make is that, although the source for the character was nothing like Holmes, the way they chose to write the story/tell it on camera does look like it has been influenced a fair bit by Holmes. Inspector/detective Di even publishes a manual on the show for fellow inspector/detectives on correct crime detection/evidence interpretation methods (Sherlock does the same in the books & on the show).

Jokes aside, it is a very good series if you can speak Chinese (don't know if there is a version that comes with English subtitles).

Series Three Suggestions & Ideas » How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead? » September 6, 2012 11:42 am

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*How will John react?*

Do you think the order of discovery would influence how he does react? Like if he gets it straight from Sherlock or through someone else (Moriarty for example). And the number, so if he's the first of the central characters to find out the truth, or not. Imagine if he's the last to find out

Possible scenario if John is the last to know:

Location: Bottom of stairs inside 221B Baker Street

Mrs Hudson: I've been telling you for weeks now - he's alive & he's back in London.
John: Now, it must have been someone else.
Mrs Hudson: But he's contemplating moving back to 221B
John: I saw him fall! I saw him land, actually. There's no way someone could survive that kind of fall.
Mrs Hudson: Oh, look he's back.
John (stares at Sherlock): You!
Sherlock: Good to see you too Watson.
John: You bastard! (punches Sherlock in the face) You made me buy all those flowers on the anniversary of your "death", walk through the rain & the "mud"
Sherlock (quiet voice): You cried in the rain.
John: You know what? I want a refund on the flowers I bought!

Possible scenario if John is the first to know:

Location: At a coffee cart on a busy street

John: Two sugars, thanks.
Sherlock (coming up behind him): You've never liked coffee much.
John (turns around): What... no...
Sherlock: You've started a new job & your girlfriend just broke up with you.
John: What? How did you?
Sherlock: Oh it was easy, you smell like methylated spirits & you've got a smidgen of lipstick on the side of your cheek just under the ear,
John: No I meant, how... How is it that you're alive?
Sherlock: I'll fill you in later. You don't wanna hear it now. It'll take me 90 minutes to explain.
John: I don't believe it. I've got a train to catch.
Sherlock: I'll walk you.
John: You know what? I think I always knew.
Sherlock: That she was going to leave you?
John: No, that you were still alive.

Series Three Suggestions & Ideas » How will Sherlock clear his name? » September 6, 2012 11:13 am

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He has to convince his strongest doubters first before it will treacle down to the public. So maybe a case will threaten Donovan (which Sherlock has to get her out of) & Kitty will be the one to report it. I don't think Anderson should be involved because it's too much fun watching him and Sherlock not get along - Anderson should remain his one biggest skeptic. Then John & Molly (maybe Mrs Hudson) can testify how their lives were torn apart by Mr Holmes's apparent suicide (torn apart by just how boring life was in the interim without Sherlock).

Other Adaptations » Guy Ritchie Sherlock Movies » September 5, 2012 12:08 pm

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Banbha wrote:

For the life of me, I couldn't tell you what the plot of either movie was.

Movie 1 = save England (make sure parliament house doesn't get blown up)
Movie 2 = save Europe (make sure WW1 starts in 1914 like it's supposed to & not earlier)

not much mystery.thinking required

Other Adaptations » Guy Ritchie Sherlock Movies » September 5, 2012 11:49 am

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The two falls:

Game of Shadows: Moriarty threatens Watson specifically causing Holmes to push him off the balcony on a joint suicide mission.

Reicenbach Fall: Moriarty threatens John, Hudson & Lestrade causing Sherlock to contemplate jumping but he does not go through with it until Moriarty shoots himself.

It seems like Sherlock from BBC series has a lot more to lose than Holmes from the films.

The Blind Banker » Who Killed Shan? » September 5, 2012 11:25 am

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Scene set some time after Blind Banker but Before Great Game:

Setting: In Sherlock's study.

Sherlock: I'm bored!
John: Well have a look at the news, you'll find a case to work on from the papers.
Sherlock: More boring! Just opinion pieces they are, not really news at all.
John: Mugging at Central Park,
Sherlock: Next!
John: Dishonest banks,
Sherlock Next!
John: Asian woman found dead in her apartment,
Sherlock: Next!
John (shows Sherlock a photo from newspaper): Hang on a minute, is that... She looks like...
Sherlock: She's dead. The Black Lotus killed her. Case solved.
John: You're not the least bit curious to know "who" did the killing?
Sherlock: Nope.

Text on screen (actually, it's more like a thought bubble above John's head): What the?

SaturnR: My thoughts exactly, lol.

It's funny how you guys are arguing about whether or not Sherlock had the moral/ethical fibre to off her The real question should be: Why isn't he the least bit curious who did the killing?

General Sherlock Discussion » Favourite moments » September 5, 2012 10:38 am

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This isn't actually from a scene, it's from the commentary. It's from a Scandal in Belgravia where Benedict observes that he "twiddles" a lot. Then after he draws attention to it, the viewer just can't help but notice the many times where Sherlock is twiddling He's more in character than he thinks, but he would never admit to it, lol.

Other Adaptations » Amazing Detective Di (Chinese Sherlock) » September 5, 2012 10:10 am

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This isn't strictly speaking an adaptation at all, but the main character from the Chinese series that I'm talking about is clearly based on Sherlock Holmes - & since I don't see a Chinese Sherlock Holmes series-proper coming out any time soon, this is the closest that we will get to the real deal. Detective Di uses reasoning and deduction to solve crimes and is an excellent medic himself (however, he's not a recluse or oddball).

He uses the word "logic" a lot, which sounds funny because in the context of the series (Tang Dynasty China, or AD late 600s to early 700s), the word "logic" had not yet entered into the Chinese vocabulary. Not that we are incapable of thinking logically, it's just that I don't think we had a word for it. Even in modern Chinese, "logic" is translated phonetically from English (pronounced luo ji).

So yeah, if there ever was a Chinese version of Holmes, Detective Di would be it. The series is mostly about conspiracy type plots because at the time, many members of the aristocracy were considering offing Empress Wu - so she got there first and offed a lot of the ones who were hostile to her or considered being hostile to her.

Other Adaptations » Which "based on Sherlock Holmes" shows/books do you like the best? » September 4, 2012 12:18 pm

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They're all out there: House MD, Monk, the Mentalist, (not to mention Hercule Poirot - the books, not the tv show) etc... I'm sure there are loads that I've missed.

Yeah, which ones do you like best? At the moment, I'm leaning toward The Mentalist

General Benedict Appreciation » the violin » September 4, 2012 11:40 am

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The reason his movements don't match the soundtrack is because the soundtrack was added later and he was playing without knowing what the soundtrack might sound like. They said on DVD that showpiece violins are silent - must be really weird playing on an instrument that doesn't actually make the sound that you expect to hear.

Series Three Suggestions & Ideas » Is Moriarty dead? » September 4, 2012 11:10 am

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Maybe they could keep the character alive through flashbacks. I think he would definitely appear in the first episode of series 3 just coz he's so important to Sherlock's explanation of why he faked his death, etc... After that, not sure what they could do with him. He would have a lot of associates, if his associates feature in future episodes, they might be able to allude to him. Unfortunately, don't see him onscreen past the first episode as any further reference would be mostly verbal - it's a shame, Andrew Scott is so good as Moriarty.

By the way, the "piss off" logo is the best I've seen in a long time.

Series Three Suggestions & Ideas » Would John ever "be" Sherlock? (since he's officially dead, I mean) » September 3, 2012 10:25 am

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He's already got the mafia after him thinking that he's Holmes, would he actually take it that one step further & actually be Sherlock for a day, while the real Sherlock is in hiding? Would be case related & not for the fun of it

Character Analysis » Sherlock's arsemanship » September 3, 2012 9:55 am

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This isn't really a critique so much as it is an observation. I love the show & hope they make loads more of it.

I'm re-reading some of the earlier Sherlock Holmes stories & found that the original Holmes is not nearly as much of an arse as he is in the show. The key is intent. The original still has Holmes being very cold and very calculating but he doesn't really intend to offend, he sometimes does offend as a by-product of his deductions. On the TV show, Sherlock knows when he is being offensive but doesn't care; So, although in the books, he is a sometimes arse, on the show, it is his defining trait.

And it does work & is needed for the dramatisation but I just never thought that I would use the word "placid" to describe Holmes. However, compared with his modernised counterpart, the Victorian Holmes really is quite placid.

How about you guys? Do you prefer Sherlock with more or less arsemanship? (Not that there's anything wrong with Benedict's current portrayal of Holmes)

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