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General Sherlock Discussion » Questions and ponderings about Sherlock » April 21, 2015 11:39 am

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So it's actually flats that are numbered A, B, C, and not buildings? What do they do when they pull one house down and put two smaller ones in its place (not that the Baker street building looks as if that would have happened...)?

General Sherlock Discussion » The door knocker: Mycroft, Sherlock and John » April 20, 2015 2:55 pm

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I wondered where this Mycroft straightening the knocker came from in the first place - as far as I remember the knocker was never askew in the first two seasons! Everybody seemed to be perfectly happy with it hanging straight.

General Sherlock Discussion » Has anyone managed to work out a timeframe for this show? » April 20, 2015 2:49 pm

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I agree with you say about the "years", cmstomps, but then HLV wouldn't have happened yet ;)

Real-life explanation: Mofiss messed up (again) . I also think that if Dr. John H. Watson was so obsessed with keeping his real name a secret he wouldn't simply blurt it out in front of Irene Adler, blackmailer extraordinary.

In-universe explanation: Sherlock was lying about John telling him, so he could just as easily have lied about the "years". Probably, Sherlock being Sherlock, it didn't take him more than a few days to find out the name once he wanted to know.

General Sherlock Discussion » Questions and ponderings about Sherlock » April 20, 2015 2:40 pm

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I agree with Vhanja on the not going/going thing - doesn't make sense. And I'm with tonnaree on the beer - it's just a prop. Btw. - does Sherlock ever drink alkohol (apart from stag night)? I do wonder why, considering him complaining about his brain working to fast and being unable to switch off - seems the world's oldest legal downer would be just the thing... (nopes, I'm not condoning drug use here, just wondering)

Now for a nice factual question, which should have an easy answer, provided some Londoner is reading this: How are houses numbered in London? For even the producers have a problem with 3 doorbells for 221B, when for me (who grew up in Munich) it would be absolutely normal: In Munich the buildings are numbered - starting with 1 for the house closest to the city centre on the left-hand side of the road, continuing 3, 5, etc. (the even numbers are on the right side if you look away from the city centre). The B numbers are for houses that are later squeezed into a gap between two existing, already numbered, buildings, or possibly for when a building is divided and has now two separate entrances (or a big one is pulled down and two smaller ones built - every time you need an additional number that doesn't upset the whole system). The flats in a building don't have numbers or letters, there's just a namenext to the bell button and on the letterbox. So I would expect for 221A to be the next door to the left of 221B, and the sandwich shop to be either 221C or 223. Whereas the three flats in 221B are just distiguished by the names next to the bell buttons (and how is the mail delivered to those three flats? There's no letterbox, is there?)

So, how should the building/flats in it be numbered in London? According to Ariane DeVere's transcript: ...=small=10pt=small=10pt Steven admits that there is a “blatant improbability” with the front door, which has three doorbells and so really shouldn’t have the number of just one of those flats. “But how co

General Sherlock Discussion » Cursing and classes - Sherlock & John » April 20, 2015 2:00 pm

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maryagrawatson wrote:

.... Mummy was a homemaker, ...

Actually, Mummy was a mathematician who wrote a book titled "The Dynamics of Combustion" before she gave up her career for her children. I always thinks "Cambridge" - both for her and Sherlock (the Natural Sciences course sure looks like fun). And most probably public school beforehand...

John shouldn't be really out of money in the first episode - Wellingtongoose (http://wellingtongoose.tumblr.com/) calculated he should have received some £ 11,000 when discharged (and then an annual pension of approx. £ 3800). He shouldn't really have debts from his studies because tuition was free back then. Assuming Sherlock managed to turn not all the well-paying clients away, Dr. John Watson should be rather well-off by now. And who knows, maybe the car was bought used... However, I still thought that the wedding was completely over the top - do British weddings normally look like this? The German weddings I've been to were a much more low-key affair.

I can add the French terminology to the loo/bathroom issue: Here it's important to ask for "les toilettes" or "les WC" ("we-ce", not "doublewe-(ce)" as the letter w would be normally pronounced"). I. e. to use the plural. "La toilette" (singular) as mentioned above, is the whole washing/grooming process. A vulgar expression, but you can hear it in "normal life" would be "les chiottes". And while I checked this, I discovered that the dictionary gives as definition "cabinet d'aisances" which I have never ever heard (or read) anywhere in 15 years in France (however, I believe I have come across "seat of ease" somewhere - maybe in O'Brian?)

As for the s*** vs. f*** - I've heard (in a DVD commentary, probably Die Hard 4) that s***was perfectly acceptable whereas f*** was banned. Which is why the uncut version of "The King's Speech" (a movie completely without sex or violence) was R-rated in the U.S. ... But things might be changing - they let a f*** sli

A Scandal In Belgravia » Bond Air (and other issues...) » April 18, 2015 8:17 pm

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Can anybody actually make sense of the whole "terrorist plot" in ASiB?

An airplane crashes in Düsseldor. Presumably the crash was due to terrorist activity, though that's never confirmed. "Mycroft" (I'm just using the name for convenience's sake because I don't know who the other conspirators were - he probably wouldn't be directly involved in Germany) knew of the terrorist attack, and filled the plane with dead people so that nobody would die in the crash (btw: How did "Mycroft" fake people boarding the flight? How did the terrorists plant their bomb when the plane was not accepting passengers and luggage but parked in a closed-off area of the airport?). 

I'd like to point out that the Düsseldorf area is very densely populated and there's no way to exclude collateral damage (i. e. people killed) on the ground. But let's assume there were no additional fatalities so everybody is happy - the terrorists believe their scheme succeded, and as in Germany you don't get to see your loved one's ash (the urn's buried by cemetary employees) the relatives won't notice anything. Well, actually, people taking flights probably won't be too happy about the crash, but then we are all used to the risk and delete the facts pretty quickly, don't we?

Then there's Bond Air proper, LHR to Baltimore (which at least gives a nice stretch of sea for the plane to fall into - only then they wouldn't need corpses at all...). "Mycroft" has spent some 9 months collecting bodies (I'd say autumn for the hiker, the man with his aunt's urn came before the hiker, Bond Air is scheduled to leave in June/July - Irene's "6 months"), probably keeping them in deep freeze somewhere (and I wonder why he couldn't find corpses about whom nobody would care - does anybody know how many people die in the UK in 6 months?) Terrorists plant a bomb on the flight (same problem as above).

Moriarty has absolutely no connection to these terrorists, he apparantely doesn't know who they are - otherwise he coul

A Scandal In Belgravia » The misidentification. » April 18, 2015 6:58 pm

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Liberty wrote:

I don't know - it seems too planned to be a plot hole, doesn't it?   ....

Unfortunately, the more often I watch the show and the more I think about it, the less sense the whole story makes.... I'll have something to say about the Bond Air project, as well (elsewhere)

Realistically I think that Mofiss didn't expect us to dissect the characters' every word and every glance. They wrote what seemed like a good story at the time.

So I think that Steven Moffat never worried about the too-short-delay between (presumably/maybe/probably not) Irene's text message "Mantlepiece" (and HOW did the package get there?) and the appearance of the body. That he never wondered how difficult it would be to find an exact body double (though they had one for the filming - maybe why we don't get to see the body) and the gruesome goings-on that would entail. Moffat wrote what seemed entertaining and made sense to him at the time.

In real life, I think that's what happened. Unfortunately, that attitude pretty much makes all the discussions superfluous and it's still sooo long till the Christmas special!

So, let's forget about real life and rather speculate about WHY Sherlock lied for Irene - much more fun!




 

A Scandal In Belgravia » The misidentification. » April 18, 2015 5:28 pm

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I have another "solution" to offer: As Sherlock's brain took a (very) brief holiday "downstairs" when he looked at naked Irene , he didn't notice any details beyond her measurements  and has not much to compare the dead body to.
However, I really, really want Liberty (and Aurora with her alternative solution in the very first post) to be right! Sherlock playing along with Irene, for whatever reason, offers so many interesting possibilities for fanfic...
Seriously I think it most likely was just another plot hole

A Scandal In Belgravia » What is it with Sherlock and Irene? » April 18, 2015 4:27 pm

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I thought the topic was "What is it with Sherlock and Irene"?

Because at the end (i. e. after the aircraft - before the beheading) she's clothed (in a rather amazing dress, I think), but I wonder whether Sherlock is  jealous that she asked Moriarty for help. He's sitting there looking all resigned and depressed, hears "Moriarty",  pulls himself immediately together and finds the password. I'm tempted to think he would have let her get away if she hadn't asked Moriarty for help.

Actually, I have no problem seeing Sherlock teaming up with Irene to expose the government conspiracy - but that's really outside this thread. I'll try to find a better one.

A Scandal In Belgravia » What is it with Sherlock and Irene? » April 17, 2015 5:02 pm

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Of course, for science, and to cover all the bases, we should then also have a naked Sherlock walking towards John and/or Irene...

A Study In Pink » Was anyone else uncomfortable... » April 17, 2015 10:18 am

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Well, if I ever meet (in person) a medically trained person who's closely watched Sherlock I'll ask them. Till then I'll let the question rest...

A Scandal In Belgravia » What is it with Sherlock and Irene? » April 16, 2015 8:03 pm

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tonnaree wrote:

 Can we acknowledge that, regardless of the gender and sexual orientation of the participants, if you're waiting for a meeting with someone you've never met and they walk in naked, you're going to be shocked and flustered.  I don't necessarily see attraction in Sherlock's reaction. ...

That would certainly be normal human behaviour, I agree. But how much of that does Sherlock normally show?

Incidentally, I had originally written "a purely physical reaction" - that's different from attraction in my book!  Though I do believe that there is attraction as well, at some point. (And that could be either sexual attraction, or the attraction of a gay man to her intelligence and determination - as you like.)

A Study In Pink » Was anyone else uncomfortable... » April 16, 2015 7:53 pm

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nakahara wrote:

....Sherlock´s universe is a peculiar one. In S3 it was established, that you can choose the place near person´s heart and shoot the person into it with such precision, that the person would not die but remains only incapaciated.
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I agree with the first sentence - very peculiar! However, I've just read a fascinating explantion regarding the rest on http://wellingtongoose.tumblr.com. (Sherlock Medical Essays/On the Shooting) - the bullet wound is apparantly in the safest spot possible if you need to thoroughly incapacitate somebody.

A Scandal In Belgravia » What is it with Sherlock and Irene? » April 16, 2015 11:23 am

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I watched the scene again yesterday (it is one of my favorite episodes) and Sherlock's mouth literally drops open when Irene approaches him (good news for all female fans). As for when he develops what kind of feelings, I wouldn't presume to say.

As I'm not sure whether canon Dr. Watson was a good judge of Sherlock's feelings, I wouldn't be bothered by BBC Sherlock falling in love (with whomever). As far as canon goes I'm already happy that Irene proved to Sherlock Holmes that women can be intelligent ("He used to make merry over the cleverness of women, but I have not heard him do it of late.")

A Study In Pink » Was anyone else uncomfortable... » April 16, 2015 10:58 am

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nakahara wrote:

..... If Sherlock threw him into the Thames, it would be completely justified and a good riddance....
 

Interesting attitude to law and order - but that's not how things work in the European countries I know!

nakahara wrote:

Let′s face it the cabbie was a scum who gleefully poisoned four people. Three people were in the prime of life, enjoying successful careers and one was just a young man on the verge of adulthood, practically a child. If Sherlock not only stepped on cabbie′s bleeding shoulder but kicked him to his head or clawed his eyes out, it would be rightfully delt – the scum deserved every single bit of it.  

I agree that the cabbie was scum, but even scum has rights. At least in real life...

In fiction I'm absolutely not bothered by "bad guys" getting what I think they deserve (maybe I've read too many Jack Reacher novels: "“We splattered a thousand bugs on our windshield yesterday. A thousand more today. One extra won’t make any difference.” - The Hard Way - the extra bug of course is a man).

I just wanted to point out that Sherlock is not some fluffy teddybear but a potentially dangerous man who goes from torture (which probably wouldn't have made any difference to the cabby living or dyeing) to grievous bodily harm with intent (the fall could have easily killed the guy) to murder (or is it "only" homicide?) None of which particularly bothers me, but I would think twice before seriously annoying Sherlock or pushing him into a corner (and decide to not do it)!

 

A Scandal In Belgravia » What is it with Sherlock and Irene? » April 15, 2015 12:29 pm

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Schmiezi wrote:

Kittyhawk wrote:

Sherlock Holmes wrote:

Sherlock isn't interested in sex ....

Seeing that his brain takes a break when he looks at naked Irene, I'm not so sure about that... Hormones at work - probably a purely physical reaction at that point. Though I do believe that he develops some feelings for her..
 

I never understood that scene as "Sherlock's brain stops working". It works perfectly well as his deduction of John shows us. IMO it's Irene that is perfectly un-deducable because she wants to be, not because she is naked.

Exactly my point! Sherlock's brain works when he is looking at John, but not when he's looking at Irene (and btw, removing ones clothes also removes to possibility to deduct anything from them. But with Sherlock in top form we'd get make and colour names of her makeup, at the very least). And the value of the jewellery, the kind of stone and possibly who sold it...
 

A Scandal In Belgravia » So what would YOU give Sherlock for Christmas? » April 14, 2015 10:57 am

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Violet Hunter wrote:

A Pocket Knife?
But in England these days that would be not a good idea, my relatives there cold not laugh when I showed mine.

Swiss army knives are still perfectly legal (https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives) and the most useful anyway. I'd get a Victorinox with tweezers and magnifying glass...

And if Sherlock talked about me as about Molly, I'd keep the knife!

A Scandal In Belgravia » What is it with Sherlock and Irene? » April 14, 2015 10:32 am

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Sherlock Holmes wrote:

Sherlock isn't interested in sex ....

Seeing that his brain takes a break when he looks at naked Irene, I'm not so sure about that... Hormones at work - probably a purely physical reaction at that point. Though I do believe that he develops some feelings for her...

I have no problem with Sherlock forgiving Irene for drugging and beating him - after all, he forgives Mary for shooting and nearly killing him.

The Karachi rescue really happened in my opinion, even if I don't see how Sherlock could have done it, and how Mycroft could have missed it (and what was a dominatrix doing in a country full of Islamic fundamentalists in the first place?).  Firstly because I mostly like Irene and would hate to see her dead, secondly because I'm sure Mofitt know that you don't kill off great characters - you never know when you might need them again and bringing them back to life can be so awkward (anybody remember "Dallas"?)



 

A Scandal In Belgravia » Classic error in this show » April 13, 2015 7:02 pm

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Back to Sherlock: What bothers me is not just the science, but also things like John's therapist suggesting he write a blog (why would one want to go public with ones problems? A personal diary, by all means, but a web log????), John doing all this running and jumping in the taxi chase - yes, the limp is psychosomatic - and how does one develop a limp from a shot to the shoulder???? - but John didn't do any jogging in the last months, did he? (btw, when does Sherlock work out?), the wildly fluctuating fighting abilities (Sherlock deals rather elegantly with his Jaria diamond attacker - how does he get rid of the knocked-out guy? - but Sherlock, John and SIG together can't cope with the Golem) - the list is endless...

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