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Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » Patrick Melrose » May 28, 2018 2:37 pm

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Vhanja wrote:

Yeah, I was surprised at how they portrayed Princess Margaret. She was a real person - unless she was known for being very unlikable, I think it's quite unethical to portray someone who recently lived like that.

I read somewhere that she was a very unpleasant person and much more disliked than any other member of the Royal Family. It is interesting to see how different her portrayal is from the one given in "Crown". But I have to admit, I cannot stand the "Crown".
 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » Avengers: Infinity War » May 3, 2018 6:59 am

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nakahara wrote:

So even if his stand-alone movie is not confirmed, that doesn´t mean he can´t appear in other Marvel works. 

Well, if he won't have a stand-alone movie, I don't care much about his appearing in other Marvel works. Much as I enjoyed his stunt in Avengers, the film is your typical-blockbuster-popcorn-entertainment and he has been reduced to some kind of action figure here, just like all other characters. Of course, there is the question of visibility, he has been under the radar for more than a year, so it is a good thing the audience is reminded of his existence 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » Avengers: Infinity War » May 1, 2018 9:48 pm

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Yes, poor Loki, dispatched in the very first moments of the film!
I liked the dissolving sequence, but was not too much moved by it, because with so many deaths it became obvious they are not true deaths. So the whole suspense is about how many of them will go back (I suspect pretty all)

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » His "genius roles" - differences and similarities » November 22, 2017 2:34 pm

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Kittyhawk wrote:

I love the idea of Khan as the movie's tragic hero! Now I really must get hold of it again! 

One of the critics called Khan "shakepearean" villain and I really see him as a kind of tragic hero - or antihero, if you want.

TBH I must confess I feel very uncomfortable with STiD ending, because it seems after all Khan WAS right: the Starfleet is the enemy". It is not only Marcus: we can see that supposedly "good guys" let Khan's people rot in hibernation indefinitely, which is if fact death sentence.
Also, if Kirk's crew was taken hostage (which did happen in Star Trek beyond, but the irony was evidently lost to the producers) he still would be a "good guy" fighting for the justice, no matter what measures taken. Something about this is troubling me deeply.
The history is written by the winners...

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » His "genius roles" - differences and similarities » November 17, 2017 10:57 pm

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I see a similarity between dr Strange and Sherlock; they are arrogant because they know they are "good" and they love being the smartest man in the room. They both got punished for their hubris: Strange - car accident (but it is only the beginning of the long way to the humility) Sherlock by "Norbury" incident.

The whole point with Touring, I think, is that he seems arrogant, but it is not his intention. (at least how he is portrayed in the film). Unlike Strange & Sherlock he doesn't care about being admired and acclaimed.

Khan is arrogant, but in a different way than S&S. He "knows" he is better because he has been engineered as such, but his arrogance stems from believing, that being better he cannot be beaten by a "weaker" opponent, such a Spock. And yet again, his hubris is the motive of his ruin, but in this case, it is all more tragic because he was not interested in personal glory, but in saving his people.

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » The Imitation Game (spoiler thread for those who have seen it) » November 15, 2017 2:56 pm

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Kittyhawk wrote:

. To me "Are you paying attention? Good. If you're not listening carefully you will miss things. Important things. I will not pause, I will not repeat myself, and you will not interrupt me. ..." sounds arrogant.

Well, if there is one thing that bothers me about TIG, it is this monologue. It doesn't make any sense in the context of the movie, because when we finally see Touring telling his story, he is "not in control" and he is very much already broken man.

Maybe I should feel offended by inaccuracies of the film - after all, my aunt's godfather worked on Enigma in the 1930s - I am always willing to make allowances when we are talking about a feature film. It is FICTION, after all. It is worse with documentaries because they pretend to be a "document" and they so often offer a very subjective version of facts.

As for arrogant: I think the film makes it clear AT is not "arrogant" but "different": once his colleagues understand it, they actually accept him and befriend him - it is another message of the film I liked very much: you can be different and still find people who will accept you as you are.

 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » The Child in Time » November 15, 2017 2:45 pm

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I have never heard about this award, but I am always happy when he wins something - not often enough!

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » let's discuss... dr Strange (spoilers) » November 15, 2017 2:44 pm

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B. himself said he would love to do a comedy, but it is not really easy to find a good script.

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » His "genius roles" - differences and similarities » November 15, 2017 2:41 pm

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Well, unfortunately "The last enemy", in spite of B. acting skills never convinces fully as a character. There are some similarities between Ezard and Turing, but he is not round enough character to be really interesting.

Very good idea for the thread, Vanhja!

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » The Imitation Game (spoiler thread for those who have seen it) » November 14, 2017 4:29 pm

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I agree with many remarks above, but still, in my opinion, a biopic, even if based on real events/ characters is a feature film. If the people don't distinguish between facts and fiction it's a pity, but to require the filmmakers to adhere strictly to facts would be denying them the artistic creativity. TBH I couldn't mention a single biopic which doesn't take some liberties with the story. 
The main point, I think, is not to do a disservice to the characters the film talks about. 
From that point of view, I had strong objections against "Argo", for example, not because they made the escape of American hostages from Iran more dramatic than it was in fact, but because they minimized the role of the Canadians.
So there are many liberties in TIG, but not nearly as many as in "Enigma", for example, and I think the film scored well, because 1) it made familiar Turing's achievements to many people who knew nothing/ very little of him before  2) made it clear just how important the work of the people in Bletchley park was (how many average viewers were even aware of its existence)? 3) made a very poignant point about how devastating and horrible the anti-gay law in GB was  and how it ruined people's lives.

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » let's discuss... dr Strange (spoilers) » November 14, 2017 4:13 pm

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I am not a great Marvel lover, either, but have to admit Thor Ragnarok was rather funny. And Benedict has a great chemistry with Chris Hemsworth.

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » let's discuss... dr Strange (spoilers) » November 12, 2017 7:38 pm

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You are right, of course, the last we see dr Strange is credit scene, but TBH I don't consider it a part of the man movie: it is a teaser for Ragnarok, which is a completely different tale, a light comedy, and dr Strange there is not really "the same" as in Derrickson's movie. Different aesthetic, different - even if apparently the same - character. 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » let's discuss... dr Strange (spoilers) » November 10, 2017 7:04 pm

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Well, there are some perks to the job, no doubt about it (What about a super cool mansion in NYC?) and I don't think he will be particularly unhappy. It doesn't mean his choice isn't a sacrifice, though. I don't think it is his "dream job" in spite of all excitement. Strange is not a born hero: his first reaction when he heard about "infinite dangers" was to run away and forget all about it: as a sorcerer supreme (you are right, he is not one yet, still have to arrive) he will be in constant danger, fighting against new threats and menaces.


Still more important (and I liked very much they made that point in film) his new occupation can force him to do things he doesn't want to from the moral point of view: to harm or even kill "bad guys". You would agree that he doesn't look particularly radiant in the last shoot of the film

As for the Casablanca: much as I love the film, I don't think Rick will be particularly unhappy, either. And to let stay Ilsa with him would be really stupid: they could not possibly live happy and peaceful life in the context of German occupation.

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » let's discuss... dr Strange (spoilers) » November 9, 2017 4:26 pm

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Kittyhawk wrote:

I think events just got away from Dr. Stephen Strange (and by the way, what's that about him no longer being a Doctor? Are academic titles not part of the name in the U.S.?)

I mean, there he was training in Kamar Taj, just experimenting (for fun, for his personal education) with the spell from the Book of Cagliostro and the Eye of Agamotto and suddenly he gets pushed into the New York Sanctum by Kaecilius, must fight for his life against K and his zealots, gets saved by a sentient cloak and his ex-girlfriend, fights some more, tries to save The Ancient One and hop, discovers that Hongkong is destroyed.

The way I see it Dr. Strange  was just scrambling, desperately trying to make the best of a bad situation in each instant. There was never a spare moment when he could have healed his hands - actually, I wouldn't be surprised if his experiment with turning back time was done with a view to going back to before the accicent. But there wasn't time for that either... (not to mention that I personally think Mordor and Wong are right and messing with time is a very bad idea)

Sorry to hear about your handicap and you are absolutely right about texting while driving - from that point of view I think the film gives a very effective warning, one is not likely to forget.

I don't think anyone ever suggested the incident has anything to do with the sacrifice: it simply put the things in motion. It is a very long journey from the hubris to the humility, and when Strange begins his training in Kamar-Taj, he is still focused on himself, only thinking about magic as an "instrument" to get back what he lost he isn't ready for being a hero, he even says so when Mordo and Wong tell him about Dormammu etc. and then he fights to save his life, not for some noble purpose - yet again Mordo tells him, rightly that "he lacks the spine".
 
So it is only in the hospital when he realizes that he could, in fact, use the magic to heal his hands, that he needs to take

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » let's discuss... dr Strange (spoilers) » November 8, 2017 5:29 pm

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Kittyhawk wrote:

Where do you see Dr. Strange (or, by the way, Sherlock?) sacrificing his own private happiness for others? 

And Dr. Strange's unhappiness over most of the film wasn't the result of some voluntary sacrifice, but of unsafe driving (shouldn't there have been legal consequences as well?)
 

Lol, I can see you are quite set against poor Stephen. Yes, his ruin was the result of his hubris and his recklessness, but it doesn't mean he was less unhappy because of this (probably even MORE unhappy, knowing he brought it on himself). As for earnings, I can imagine a top neurosurgeon earns well over six zeros a year, nonetheless, he went through his money rather quickly, when trying to find a cure.
Strange's sacrifice is to give up what he loved most and what he wanted to do in life: being a surgeon. He loved being rich and famous, of course, but underneath he was obsessed with his work and he desperately wanted it back. He didn't become a sorcerer because he wanted to cast spells: he hoped it would help him to have his old life back. So when he accepts his "destiny" to be a sorcerer supreme (or whatever it is called) it is a true sacrifice - since at this point he "could" have his hands back, thanks to the magic. It is handled quite beautifully, IMO, in the hospital scene.



 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » let's discuss... dr Strange (spoilers) » November 7, 2017 11:24 am

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Looking forward to a further discussion, although it should be probably carried on in the threads dedicated to single films.
B. said in one of the intereviews that after STiD he was being offered a lot of "villains" parts and he turned them down, because they were all alike. I guess he found Sherlock - Assange - Turing different enough to be interesting to him.
In any case, Hawking is not really arrogant, IMO. His professor was wrong in his calculations and he wanted to "show off" (now, I don't know you, but isn't it a fund to show your professor they are wrong, lol?), true, but in the end it was a lesson in humility: his mentor told him quite clearly that he should invent something himself, not just find errors in the work of other people.
 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » let's discuss... dr Strange (spoilers) » November 5, 2017 5:17 pm

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It's true that BC usually plays very intelligent people, although he was capable of pulling off an extremely awkward Little Charlse in AOC. But what puzzles me is the equation (beloved by critics) genius = arrogant = always the same.
BC Hawking is not arrogant, for example, IMO. He knows he is extremely gifted, but still looking for his way and needing a guidance. Redmayne's portrayal of Hawking was very sanitized (not his fault - the script) and rather two-dimensional.
Assange is plagued by his obsessions and paranoias, Touring tormented by his homosexuality, Sherlock is an asshole all right, but partly because he chooses to be such, Strange needs to be "the best" in what he is doing, Khan well, he is genetically altered, isn't he?
It is true that with his face & voice & background B. may be better suited to play intelligent and educate people rather than, let's say, a jobless usher or Italian criminal but the only time I had a deja vu watching Benedict was in some episodes of 3rd season of Sherlock - some mannerisms and voice inflections were indeed very similar to the 2nd season.

 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » The Hollow Crown: The Wars of the Roses (was "Richard III") » May 17, 2017 5:05 pm

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I don't resent it, either. but the series was really very disappointing, apart from fantastic opening titles.

Ben Winshaw did get Bafta for his Richard II, but while his interpretation was excellent, it was less complex than Benedict's Richard growing up from adolescent to the monster and the production itself was, IMO, less inspired.

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » The Hollow Crown: The Wars of the Roses (was "Richard III") » May 17, 2017 11:08 am

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Yitzock wrote:

I think his time will come. Mark Rylance didn't win an Oscar until he was 56. I don't know whether it will take that long for Benedict to win a BAFTA, but with everything he does and his skill, I'm sure he'll eventually be recognized. At least, it's not impossible.

Lol, I am not sure Benedict will feel fully gratified if he eventually will be awarded Bafta at 56. Of course, there are many talented poeple in the business and of course there is also a factor of being lucky or not: in some years there are many excellent films released in some others there are just few worth of notice. 
Anyhow, there is something wrong about B. not being awarded Bafta for Sherlock, especially with everyone else being awarded and recognized.
And it doesn't feel completely fair that Tom Hiddlestone should get Golden Globe for a rather bland role in a very bland series Night Manager, while B. had lost virtually every award he was nominated for The Imitation Game. for example.
 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » The Hollow Crown: The Wars of the Roses (was "Richard III") » May 15, 2017 7:44 pm

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Well, of course we are a bit biased in a sense that we want him to win.
But... 7 nominations and no wins are really quite a lot. And let's say it: there were people who won for far less impressive performances than his.
IMO
he should have won for
Hawking
Sherlock 1 or 2
Parade's End
Imitation Game
Richard III

But he wasn't even nominated for Parade's End, lol.

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