Moriarty's fox tie pin

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Posted by SusiGo
November 22, 2012 10:37 am 		#1

I couldn't find a post about this on the forum.
I just had a look around the Net after seeing a post on tumblr about the silver fox tie pin Moriarty's wearing in court. There are several examples in literature about foxes either faking their own deaths or giving advice to others to do so:

Brothers Grimm Fairy Tales:http://www.grimmstories.com/en/grimm_fairy-tales/the_fox_and_the_horse

http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/type0001.html

And I found a kids page about foxes saying that they sometimes play dead in order to bait crows and then pounce on them.

I don't know if all this has any meaning. If not, it's just another nice touch by Moftiss to keep our brains occupied during the hiatus. 

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Posted by hypergreenfrog
November 22, 2012 12:01 pm 		#2

Interesting...

Reichenbach Fall is full of fairy tale references, and that Moriarty loves these little hints and riddles. I'm quite sure he picked the pin for a reason. The fox is known as a shrewd animal, and is often portrayed as a cheat in fables and fairy tales.

That said, I don't really believe these small hints are directly linked to the solution of the "fall". As you say, Susi, I think Moftiss want to keep the hardcore fans happy, they love all their little details and references.

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Posted by tobeornot221b
November 22, 2012 7:12 pm 		#3

The Great Game.

Jim ("from IT") to Molly: "I'll see you at the FOX - round sixish."

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Posted by Mattlocked
November 22, 2012 7:28 pm 		#4

So he is not dead? Maybe?    Okay, okay, just let me dream a bit, right? 

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Posted by Davina
November 22, 2012 9:49 pm 		#5

And the fox appears in the tale of The Gingerbread Man too.

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Posted by Sherlock Holmes
November 23, 2012 10:46 pm 		#6

Foxes are crafty and are often the bad guys in fairy tales. And every fairy tale needs a good old fashioned villain.

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Posted by besleybean
November 23, 2012 11:14 pm 		#7

Then there is the Fox  and the HOUND!

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Posted by Harriet
November 24, 2012 4:57 pm 		#8

Sherlock Holmes wrote:

Foxes are crafty and are often the bad guys in fairy tales. And every fairy tale needs a good old fashioned villain.

Foxes in mythology and fairy tales often rather function as so called "tricksters", like snakes, coyotes, crows.
That's a difference to villains.

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Posted by Davina
November 24, 2012 8:00 pm 		#9

They are clever and sneaky! They will also go into a hen coop and slaughter every single hen in it without eating any. Blood lust? Please note: I don't usually approve of anthropomorphic labelling but in this thread it is unavoidable.

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Posted by Harriet
November 24, 2012 8:30 pm 		#10

Right, Davina, real foxes are, and about the hens, they remind of Moriarty 
In tales and mythology, foxes are often more ambivalent, not just villains.
Trickster characters follow their own agenda, bringing things forward for the better or worse.

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Posted by Lelli
December 1, 2012 1:46 pm 		#11

Oh that's a fox! I always thought it was a crown... because of tis picture you find al over google pictures:



the right one looks like a crown... but the left one is the original...

The fox clue would be exactly what mori would do... and you're points are really good... they made me think even more...

 


 
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