BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012 / Three Words - Thatcher/Smith/Sherrinford (spoilers!)

**Posted by Vhanja** July 25, 2016 7:56 pm

For Thatcher, my first thought was flashback. Sherlock being put into an insane asylum or something as a kid, in the Thatcher era. And maybe now he's into (forced) rehab and reliving some of those traumas. (He does seem childlike in his fear).

And I really, really hope they are not going for an "evil twin". That is the worst cliche of all cliches to have ever cliched.

**Posted by dioscureantwins** July 25, 2016 8:14 pm

Vhanja wrote:
And I really, really hope they are not going for an "evil twin". That is the worst cliche of all cliches to have ever cliched.

Never fear Vhanja. Perhaps they've also read Polyphony's beautiful The Best of Times. Highly recommended, full of the most delicious angst and centered around a memory that might fully appear to literally haunt Sherlock.

**Posted by Vhanja** July 25, 2016 8:17 pm

Hm, haven't heard of it.

**Posted by dioscureantwins** July 25, 2016 8:20 pm

It's right there on AO3. I've gathered from various posts you've left here you like Johnlock and love a good story and that one is really excellent.

**Posted by Vhanja** July 25, 2016 8:33 pm

Ah, now I see what you mean. Thanks for the tip! *bookmarked*

**Posted by nakahara** July 26, 2016 9:42 am

Another theory for "Thatcher":

http://violethuntress.tumblr.com/post/147949213456/thatcher

**Posted by Liberty** July 26, 2016 10:47 am

Interesting idea, in view of setlock, etc. Of course, Thatcher doesn't need to be a real person at all. The two others are fictional, both linked to canon in some way. I'm finding it frustrating that Thatcher could be anything!

**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** July 26, 2016 11:16 am

Oh, that's a very interesting theory, I can see a few ways that could work!

**Posted by SusiGo** July 26, 2016 1:34 pm

Nice discovery about "Sherrinford". I could really seem them going for this, especially since we seem to be getting childhood scenes. And they are notorious for playing with names, all the Billys, Harry/Harriet, etc.

http://ebaeschnbliah.tumblr.com/post/147997107839/mollydobby-artfulkindoforder-also-the

**Posted by Liberty** July 26, 2016 1:47 pm

So Sherrinford could be Sherlock himself, a sibling, or his mother.

Didn't the casting call for girls ask for blue eyes? And I wondered because if it was flashback, the adult woman with the most striking blue eyes is Mrs Holmes.

**Posted by SusiGo** July 26, 2016 1:54 pm

Yes, I think you are right about the eyes. And Wanda's eyes are for more conspicuous in that regard than e.g. Amanda's.

**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** July 26, 2016 2:28 pm

And we do know that Mrs Holmes is a genius...

**Posted by Mothonthemantel** July 26, 2016 3:15 pm

Mind is blown by some of the theories and stuff out of cc !

I think they are the names of the villains though.
Thatcher could be something to do with Mary and or the baby dieing MT never shook the nickname milk snatcher and that could also be the very difficult scene MF filmed.
Smith as Culverton Smith .
Sherrinford probably links to Moriarty somehow , both Sherlock and Moriarty having theoretical brothers.
It usually is Moriarty ( or his twin lookalikey ) in the finale .

**Posted by Ivy** July 27, 2016 4:43 pm

Oh they have there own thread now. I was worried that the keywords are spoilers...kind of.

**Posted by Liberty** July 27, 2016 4:55 pm

I suppose they are. Well, apart from the first one, as we haven't worked that out (although I haven't checked all the threads yet so maybe we've got it!).

**Posted by Liberty** September 25, 2016 5:06 pm

I've been folllowing the Sherlocked convention online - lots of interesting snippets but this is too big to ignore and I thought I'd better put it in one of the spoiler threads just in case!

https://twitter.com/cumberbatchweb/status/780089258409357312?lang=en-gb

We have two titles:
The Six Thatchers (there's our key word!)
The Lying Detective (a play on "Dying" presumably!).

**Posted by besleybean** September 25, 2016 5:09 pm

OMG.
The first one made me laugh...
But the second?
This could be devastating, but I assume a play on words for the 'dying detective'.
I also presume there will be a third episode, though a tad worrying that they don't want to give us the title...

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**Posted by kgreen20** September 25, 2016 10:16 pm

Liberty wrote:
I've been folllowing the Sherlocked convention online - lots of interesting snippets but this is too big to ignore and I thought I'd better put it in one of the spoiler threads just in case!

https://twitter.com/cumberbatchweb/status/780089258409357312?lang=en-gb

We have two titles:
The Six Thatchers (there's our key word!)
The Lying Detective (a play on "Dying" presumably!).

In canon:
The Adventures of the Six Napoleons
The Dying Detective

**Posted by Ivy** September 26, 2016 4:22 pm

kgreen20 wrote:
Liberty wrote:
I've been folllowing the Sherlocked convention online - lots of interesting snippets but this is too big to ignore and I thought I'd better put it in one of the spoiler threads just in case!

https://twitter.com/cumberbatchweb/status/780089258409357312?lang=en-gb

We have two titles:
The Six Thatchers (there's our key word!)
The Lying Detective (a play on "Dying" presumably!).

In canon:
The Adventures of the Six Napoleons
The Dying Detective

Oh thanks, I knew about "The Dying Detective" but didn't know what the canon version of "The Six Thatchers" is. Bit of a tongue twister if you say it very fast.

**Posted by SusiGo** September 27, 2016 3:12 pm

Well, we knew Toby Jones was going to play Culverton Smith, didn't we? I just wonder about the connection with Mary since Amanda held the sign at SDCC. Mark = Mycroft = British Government. Sherlock = Sherrinford. Or they were just confusing us again.