BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012 / The Hollow Crown: The Wars of the Roses (was "Richard III")

**Posted by Lilythiell** April 21, 2016 4:26 am

Good Lord this is oh so very promising...I can hardly wait...
Shakespeare and Benedict? God, yes!

A little question though -have the times been given?

**Posted by besleybean** April 21, 2016 5:38 am

Well we have dates...did you mean air times?
Well I assume on the evening!
Possibly 9 PM?

**Posted by ukaunz** April 22, 2016 9:13 am

A behind the scenes article with Benedict quotes from the Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/04/22/benedict-cumberbatch-sometimes-i-think-i-want-more-brain-space-y/

**Posted by SusiGo** April 22, 2016 9:23 am

Thank you, very interesting background information.

And the quotes about Benedict are not so bad either.

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**Posted by tonnaree** April 22, 2016 1:20 pm

Benedict is going to be brilliant. To no one's surprise.

**Posted by besleybean** April 22, 2016 4:51 pm

He is, though I gather Ricardians aren't thrilled about the less than flattering Shakespeare portrayal...

**Posted by Yitzock** April 22, 2016 4:54 pm

Perhaps, though the character in the play is not wholly bad, or at least not wholly unsympathetic. He is a tragic hero, in a sense.

**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** April 22, 2016 4:56 pm

I believe that Ben will be able to portray him with respect, regardless. He seems very capable of that.

**Posted by besleybean** April 22, 2016 5:13 pm

Well he'll masterfully deliver the script he's given.
I did attend that R III day school, I don't remember him being totally bad, but I'll reserve judgement.

**Posted by Yitzock** April 22, 2016 9:38 pm

You have to keep in mind that though it's a history play since it's based on historical events, it is fictionalized (there's ghosts and everything) and would play or not play to certain expectations of the audience at the time.

**Posted by besleybean** April 22, 2016 9:41 pm

Oh of course I understand that, but I suspect Ricardians have a different agenda...I used to be bit of one myself, in my youth.

**Posted by SusiGo** April 22, 2016 9:50 pm

A good friend of mine who knows a lot about the Wars of the Roses once put it like that - Richard was not so different from other monarchs of the period. Shakespeare in a way has been pandering to Tudor ideology in depicting him as a monster. However, the (presumed) murder of children has always been a taboo and may have made the difference.

**Posted by besleybean** April 22, 2016 9:51 pm

Indeed and much as I hate to admit it, I think he is the prime suspect.

**Posted by nakahara** April 26, 2016 10:03 am

**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** April 26, 2016 10:05 am

I love that sneering thing about his lips... *fans herself*

**Posted by nakahara** April 26, 2016 10:09 am

http://f0u1er.co.vu/post/143212091421/benedict-cumberbatch-as-richard-iii-in-the-hollow

**Posted by SusiGo** April 26, 2016 10:53 am

Fine. I am going to lie down now.

**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** April 26, 2016 1:57 pm

Lie down? I've been on the floor for a while now...

**Posted by gently69** April 26, 2016 2:10 pm

I'm also on the floor, which is a bit embarrassing at the office.

**Posted by besleybean** April 26, 2016 3:41 pm

I actually swore when I saw the snarling one!